Harry and Meghan

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Jezza30

264 posts

180 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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hyphen said:
eldar said:
Why, oh why won't the beastly press leave us alone?

Prince Harry speaks about Diana in Oprah Winfrey interview clip https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5623...
Its popcorn time, looking forward to watching it laugh

I can't see much difference between them doing this and the man on the street appearing on Jeremy Kyle; just how long are we going to suffer hearing about how how badly done by he is/ she is/ they are. Particularly at the moment if seems to be incredibly tone deaf.

smn159

12,726 posts

218 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Jezza30 said:
just how long are we going to suffer hearing about...etc
You don't have to 'suffer' anything of the sort - following celeb gossip and / or getting outraged by it is a choice.

HTH

Randy Winkman

16,202 posts

190 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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smn159 said:
Jezza30 said:
just how long are we going to suffer hearing about...etc
You don't have to 'suffer' anything of the sort - following celeb gossip and / or getting outraged by it is a choice.

HTH
I agree. I quite like them, by the way. smile

Ntv

5,177 posts

124 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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eldar said:
Why, oh why won't the beastly press leave us alone?

Prince Harry speaks about Diana in Oprah Winfrey interview clip https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5623...
Yes. I have the greatest sympathy re his mother, and think generally he's a good guy, but ffs, have they any conception of "live by the sword ..." ?

TBH as a couple her boring wokeness overwhelms his decency. I try and avoid reading / watching anything to do with them.

Mark Benson

7,523 posts

270 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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smn159 said:
Jezza30 said:
just how long are we going to suffer hearing about...etc
You don't have to 'suffer' anything of the sort - following celeb gossip and / or getting outraged by it is a choice.

HTH
Well, we kind of do. It's pretty much inescapable.

I don't have live TV, don't read newspapers and use social media sparingly but I've been unable to escape the tone-deaf whining of this incredibly privileged couple for months now.

Cold

15,253 posts

91 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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smn159 said:
Jezza30 said:
just how long are we going to suffer hearing about...etc
You don't have to 'suffer' anything of the sort - following celeb gossip and / or getting outraged by it is a choice.

HTH
This upcoming TV interview was the leading story on BBC breakfast this morning. 6 o'clock onwards, every half hour. Even took centre stage away from the new covid scare story.

HighwayStar

4,296 posts

145 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Ntv said:
eldar said:
Why, oh why won't the beastly press leave us alone?

Prince Harry speaks about Diana in Oprah Winfrey interview clip https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5623...
Yes. I have the greatest sympathy re his mother, and think generally he's a good guy, but ffs, have they any conception of "live by the sword ..." ?

TBH as a couple her boring wokeness overwhelms his decency. I try and avoid reading / watching anything to do with them.
And yet... here you are. The press, TV pundits moan about all they do about them not wanting publicity and yet publicise all they are doing. We wouldn't know about Netflix, Spotify, The Oprah interview if the media didn't do their oh look what they've done rant. They need H&M as much H&M need the media.
The media are giving then what they want anyway.

CooperS

4,507 posts

220 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Cold said:
smn159 said:
Jezza30 said:
just how long are we going to suffer hearing about...etc
You don't have to 'suffer' anything of the sort - following celeb gossip and / or getting outraged by it is a choice.

HTH
This upcoming TV interview was the leading story on BBC breakfast this morning. 6 o'clock onwards, every half hour. Even took centre stage away from the new covid scare story.
It's even got me thinking why would they do press if they just want a quiet life.

I presume they don't care for a quiet life. They want positive press that allows them to have money coming in from media based avenues and to continue having an interesting life doing high exposure charity. This means selectively picking those who will portray them in a particular light and not question them on how the enable that lifestyle

The Mad Monk

10,474 posts

118 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Randy Winkman said:
I agree. I quite like them, by the way. smile
The press?

Countdown

39,978 posts

197 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Mark Benson said:
smn159 said:
Jezza30 said:
just how long are we going to suffer hearing about...etc
You don't have to 'suffer' anything of the sort - following celeb gossip and / or getting outraged by it is a choice.

HTH
Well, we kind of do. It's pretty much inescapable.

I don't have live TV, don't read newspapers and use social media sparingly but I've been unable to escape the tone-deaf whining of this incredibly privileged couple for months now.
I do have live TV, I read newspapers, and use both FB and Twitter but THIS thread is the only place I hear what they're up to. How do you manage to still hear about their whining? confused

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Mark Benson said:
Well, we kind of do. It's pretty much inescapable.

I don't have live TV, don't read newspapers and use social media sparingly but I've been unable to escape the tone-deaf whining of this incredibly privileged couple for months now.
You're fking joking, right? This thread is by far the most I've seen written about them for months if not years.

The endless whining from people apparently unable to escape the endless whining would be comical if it weren't so incredibly annoying.

steely dan

237 posts

194 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Lord Marylebone said:
steely dan said:
I don't have any feelings for them , let them get on with their lives but I do hope he doesn't adopt the American accent that I can detect in the Oprah clip shown and the interview on the top of the bus with James Corden.
It is actually quite difficult to not pick up accents. If you don't want an accent from somewhere new, then you will have to make a conscious effort to 'fight it off' all the time, which takes some doing.

My cousin has lived in the US for 20 years, and has the full 'Midwest' US accent. Years ago, I went over there for 2 months to stay with her, and even after 3 or 4 weeks found myself lapsing into the accent here and there, completely unintentionally. I have no doubt that if I was there for an extended period of time I would myself slip into some form of mid-atlantic or generic US accent.

Language experts have conducted a few studies on this issue, and have concluded that someone who quickly adopts the local accent is usually more proficient with languages in general, and it is considered a useful trait in humans that they can quickly adapt their language to suit their situation or surroundings.

We may consider it undesirable to end up sounding American, but it is quite hard to avoid for some people.
I laughed out loud when I read your reply .....
I'm Scottish , from deepest lanarkshire , and have lived in County Kerry Ireland for 18 years and prior to that Hertfordshire for a further 8 +.
I can assure you you are wrong Sir .....

smn159

12,726 posts

218 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Countdown said:
Mark Benson said:
smn159 said:
Jezza30 said:
just how long are we going to suffer hearing about...etc
You don't have to 'suffer' anything of the sort - following celeb gossip and / or getting outraged by it is a choice.

HTH
Well, we kind of do. It's pretty much inescapable.

I don't have live TV, don't read newspapers and use social media sparingly but I've been unable to escape the tone-deaf whining of this incredibly privileged couple for months now.
I do have live TV, I read newspapers, and use both FB and Twitter but THIS thread is the only place I hear what they're up to. How do you manage to still hear about their whining? confused
Same here. The coverage is really not hard to avoid. Unless you don't want to, of course.

I do get that some people like to get all outraged about what celebrities are getting up to though, which is why gossip 'n' outrage rags like the Daily Mail do so well.

Randy Winkman

16,202 posts

190 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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The Mad Monk said:
Randy Winkman said:
I agree. I quite like them, by the way. smile
The press?
H and M. Nicer than normal royals.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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steely dan said:
Lord Marylebone said:
steely dan said:
I don't have any feelings for them , let them get on with their lives but I do hope he doesn't adopt the American accent that I can detect in the Oprah clip shown and the interview on the top of the bus with James Corden.
It is actually quite difficult to not pick up accents. If you don't want an accent from somewhere new, then you will have to make a conscious effort to 'fight it off' all the time, which takes some doing.

My cousin has lived in the US for 20 years, and has the full 'Midwest' US accent. Years ago, I went over there for 2 months to stay with her, and even after 3 or 4 weeks found myself lapsing into the accent here and there, completely unintentionally. I have no doubt that if I was there for an extended period of time I would myself slip into some form of mid-atlantic or generic US accent.

Language experts have conducted a few studies on this issue, and have concluded that someone who quickly adopts the local accent is usually more proficient with languages in general, and it is considered a useful trait in humans that they can quickly adapt their language to suit their situation or surroundings.

We may consider it undesirable to end up sounding American, but it is quite hard to avoid for some people.
I laughed out loud when I read your reply .....
I'm Scottish , from deepest lanarkshire , and have lived in County Kerry Ireland for 18 years and prior to that Hertfordshire for a further 8 +.
I can assure you you are wrong Sir .....
Wrong about what?

1)Wrong about some people easily picking up accents?
2)Wrong about language experts saying it is a sign of someone who is more proficient and competent with languages?

Your accent may not have changed a single bit, but it is foolish to assume it doesn't happen to other people, because it does, and it happens all the time.

Humans will naturally change their accent to mimic the local one if they stay somewhere for an extended period of time, and they may not even know they are doing it. Those who are particularly good with languages will pick up accents faster than others.

HighwayStar

4,296 posts

145 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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steely dan said:
Lord Marylebone said:
steely dan said:
I don't have any feelings for them , let them get on with their lives but I do hope he doesn't adopt the American accent that I can detect in the Oprah clip shown and the interview on the top of the bus with James Corden.
It is actually quite difficult to not pick up accents. If you don't want an accent from somewhere new, then you will have to make a conscious effort to 'fight it off' all the time, which takes some doing.

My cousin has lived in the US for 20 years, and has the full 'Midwest' US accent. Years ago, I went over there for 2 months to stay with her, and even after 3 or 4 weeks found myself lapsing into the accent here and there, completely unintentionally. I have no doubt that if I was there for an extended period of time I would myself slip into some form of mid-atlantic or generic US accent.

Language experts have conducted a few studies on this issue, and have concluded that someone who quickly adopts the local accent is usually more proficient with languages in general, and it is considered a useful trait in humans that they can quickly adapt their language to suit their situation or surroundings.

We may consider it undesirable to end up sounding American, but it is quite hard to avoid for some people.
I laughed out loud when I read your reply .....
I'm Scottish , from deepest lanarkshire , and have lived in County Kerry Ireland for 18 years and prior to that Hertfordshire for a further 8 +.
I can assure you you are wrong Sir .....
Annnnnnd... I laughed out loud when I read your reply .....

You're both right. Some people pick up accents relatively quickly and generally over time they do. Then there are those who for whatever reason never lose their native accent when living abroad. So, you not losing your accent doesn't prove anyone wrong.
A friend of mine from Ipswich married a US Serviceman, moved to Pennsylvanian. Marriage ended, moved home, she has a full in American accent. So, in what way is Lord M wrong?

Boobonman

5,655 posts

193 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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If you haven't established already that MM is a manipulative, ruthless narcissist who only cares about one person then you are beyond any help.

smn159

12,726 posts

218 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Boobonman said:
If you haven't established already that MM is a manipulative, ruthless narcissist who only cares about one person then you are beyond any help.
I've got no idea what she's like other than how she's portrayed in the media and I doubt that you have either,

There's a strong whiff of misogyny about the whole 'manipulative / ruthless woman' narrative though, IMO.

REM2112

399 posts

192 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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My father in law has lived in California for nearly 50 years. He may use a few American words, but his Yorkshire accent is undiminished. Might be a Yorkshire thing....

Pugaris

1,313 posts

45 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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REM2112 said:
My father in law has lived in California for nearly 50 years. He may use a few American words, but his Yorkshire accent is undiminished. Might be a Yorkshire thing....
I think it mostly depends when you moved. IME as an expat in Canada anybody who came here and went to school in Canada has a North American accent (though Canadians will tell you they sound British) whereas everyone I know who came here as an adult has the same accent they had when they left the UK. Definitely hear a lot of North American phrases from them but no accent