Harry and Meghan
Discussion
REDGTA said:
I must be living in a cave... but last time I tuned in to this soap opera they were off to America to live their own lives. What happened? Did the money run out....
They're still there, raking it in by all accounts. i think that's upset some people who thought they would struggle to fend for themselves. Welshbeef said:
valiant said:
I think Megan is great!
She’s shown up the family firm for what they are, a bunch of inbred, self serving hypocrites who’s sole aim is preserving their privileged positions at the expense of anything else.
She’s obviously had the conversation with senior flunkies on how to conduct herself as a royal and simply gone ‘non!’ and now they’re busily engaged in throwing grenades at each other and with every throw the royals make, it’s missing by a country mile and only highlights how far they away from the ‘little people’.
An investigation into supposed bullying? Pah! Where was the internal investigation into Andrew’s noncing?
Hint you do know how much tourism they draw to the U.K. don’t you?She’s shown up the family firm for what they are, a bunch of inbred, self serving hypocrites who’s sole aim is preserving their privileged positions at the expense of anything else.
She’s obviously had the conversation with senior flunkies on how to conduct herself as a royal and simply gone ‘non!’ and now they’re busily engaged in throwing grenades at each other and with every throw the royals make, it’s missing by a country mile and only highlights how far they away from the ‘little people’.
An investigation into supposed bullying? Pah! Where was the internal investigation into Andrew’s noncing?
You also know the alternative is to have a president setup.
Sarkozy just jailed for a year for corruption
Berlasconni jailed
Trump say no more
Putin say no more
You must also know that a presidency set up costs a huge sum countless multiples of the Crown subsidy- which itself is funded countless times with tourism draw into U.K.
Just saying - you old republican redneck you.
Why do monarchists think that republicans want to erase history, we want to exploit it! Opening up all the palaces Osbourne House stylee would generate far more tourist dollars than at present. Tourists don’t come over here thinking they’ll bump into the Queen, they come for the history and we could exploit that far greater than we do at present.
The President thing is also tosh as we have a working parliamentary system with a prime minister and who says we need a president anyway? Yes, changes like a modern written constitution would be needed and a f
k ton of checks and balances introduced but if WE decided to have a president, it would be merely symbolic and used to meet and greet dignitaries of planes and such like. And beside, we’d get to elect them. Anyway, I’ll leave you to Grrrr Megan...
Blue62 said:
Mark Benson said:
The thing is, neither side is particularly likeable.
In the red corner we have the Royal Family - anachronistic, aloof, privileged, out of touch but depending on your viewpoint could be somewhat of an asset to UK PLC (lets not get into that boring argument, I could find stats to 'prove' both sides).
In the blue corner we have The Markles - Shallow, pushy, preening, also privileged and also self-pitying, seeming to benefit no-one but the media industry.
But the fight is something it's difficult not to hear about and it's tremendously amusing seeing pompous PHers getting very agitated over each other's comments while simultaneously trying to afford a degree of nonchalence about the outcome and pretending they're only here to sneer at the opposition
Irony alert!!! Good post though mate. In the red corner we have the Royal Family - anachronistic, aloof, privileged, out of touch but depending on your viewpoint could be somewhat of an asset to UK PLC (lets not get into that boring argument, I could find stats to 'prove' both sides).
In the blue corner we have The Markles - Shallow, pushy, preening, also privileged and also self-pitying, seeming to benefit no-one but the media industry.
But the fight is something it's difficult not to hear about and it's tremendously amusing seeing pompous PHers getting very agitated over each other's comments while simultaneously trying to afford a degree of nonchalence about the outcome and pretending they're only here to sneer at the opposition
Interesting to see how it plays out.
My sense is public sentiment in the UK will side more with the Royal Family .. they have done pretty well PR wise (Andrew excepted) in recent times. The Queen is seen as part of the national struggle against COVID, old Phil will generate at least a bit of sympathy, and Will and Kate will keep talking about mental health and other topical good-egg things.
In the other corner we have the showbiz couple who f
ked off for reasons that seem a bit over-hyped - hence having to play the Diana card! Meghan will do nothing if not double down though. I can see the lot of us being branded institutionally, structurally and incorrigibly racist and colonial as public opinion doesn't side with her. Coming from a "Windsor" (?) that is LOL comical.
I've no issues with them and liked Meghan in Suits but they do seem to be spectacularly bad at managing their own PR / generally a bit dumb.
The press may be out to get you but it might help to stop spouting the woke bks, "help the planet don't take a plane" pre covid whilst flying to New York for a weekend hen party or whatever, and then "don't have more than two kids" when your brother has three etc.
Donating the legal case damages to charity would have been a nice altruistic move as well; they just don't seem to be very aligned with reality.
The press may be out to get you but it might help to stop spouting the woke b
ks, "help the planet don't take a plane" pre covid whilst flying to New York for a weekend hen party or whatever, and then "don't have more than two kids" when your brother has three etc.Donating the legal case damages to charity would have been a nice altruistic move as well; they just don't seem to be very aligned with reality.
Newton472 said:
...they do seem to be spectacularly bad at managing their own PR / generally a bit dumb.
They have full well paid PR teams both sides of the pond. I am sure they are doing polling and focus groups of their target group.Countdown said:
. It doesn't necessarily need to be the truth though.
Just needs to be justifiable in Court REDGTA said:
JagLover said:
REDGTA said:
I must be living in a cave... but last time I tuned in to this soap opera they were off to America to live their own lives. What happened? Did the money run out....
OK, brace yourself, but when they talked of moving to North America to "get away from media attention" and to live a quiet life, they were actually talking boll*ks and the plan all along was to sell themselves to the American networks, who will pay a high price for any royal connections. Welshbeef said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.geo.tv/amp/3221...
Seems she has form for out of the blue snap decisions.
So
Sent father to Coventry and stated he wasn’t part of her childhood when he has put the videos they had together in a documentary showing that’s patently not true.
Divorced out of the blue and sent her in laws to Coventry
Flounced and sent the Royal Family to Coventry. Had a baby and not even shown / introduced.
The facts speak volumes. Now maybe she’s been a really poor character choice but as ALL of these are unconnected individuals and groups maybe there is a lot more to it / maybe it’s her?
I don't think there is any maybe about it. She is an absolute grifter who drops people as soon as they have served their purpose to her. Seems she has form for out of the blue snap decisions.
So
Sent father to Coventry and stated he wasn’t part of her childhood when he has put the videos they had together in a documentary showing that’s patently not true.
Divorced out of the blue and sent her in laws to Coventry
Flounced and sent the Royal Family to Coventry. Had a baby and not even shown / introduced.
The facts speak volumes. Now maybe she’s been a really poor character choice but as ALL of these are unconnected individuals and groups maybe there is a lot more to it / maybe it’s her?
One of the things that really put me off her was her treatment of her dog. Anyone who can act that coldly towards their pet dog is one ice cold f*cker.
Blue62 said:
Mark Benson said:
The thing is, neither side is particularly likeable.
In the red corner we have the Royal Family - anachronistic, aloof, privileged, out of touch but depending on your viewpoint could be somewhat of an asset to UK PLC (lets not get into that boring argument, I could find stats to 'prove' both sides).
In the blue corner we have The Markles - Shallow, pushy, preening, also privileged and also self-pitying, seeming to benefit no-one but the media industry.
But the fight is something it's difficult not to hear about and it's tremendously amusing seeing pompous PHers getting very agitated over each other's comments while simultaneously trying to afford a degree of nonchalence about the outcome and pretending they're only here to sneer at the opposition
Irony alert!!! Good post though mate. In the red corner we have the Royal Family - anachronistic, aloof, privileged, out of touch but depending on your viewpoint could be somewhat of an asset to UK PLC (lets not get into that boring argument, I could find stats to 'prove' both sides).
In the blue corner we have The Markles - Shallow, pushy, preening, also privileged and also self-pitying, seeming to benefit no-one but the media industry.
But the fight is something it's difficult not to hear about and it's tremendously amusing seeing pompous PHers getting very agitated over each other's comments while simultaneously trying to afford a degree of nonchalence about the outcome and pretending they're only here to sneer at the opposition
Yes, the irony wasn't lost on me when posting.....Mark Benson said:
Blue62 said:
Mark Benson said:
The thing is, neither side is particularly likeable.
In the red corner we have the Royal Family - anachronistic, aloof, privileged, out of touch but depending on your viewpoint could be somewhat of an asset to UK PLC (lets not get into that boring argument, I could find stats to 'prove' both sides).
In the blue corner we have The Markles - Shallow, pushy, preening, also privileged and also self-pitying, seeming to benefit no-one but the media industry.
But the fight is something it's difficult not to hear about and it's tremendously amusing seeing pompous PHers getting very agitated over each other's comments while simultaneously trying to afford a degree of nonchalence about the outcome and pretending they're only here to sneer at the opposition
Irony alert!!! Good post though mate. In the red corner we have the Royal Family - anachronistic, aloof, privileged, out of touch but depending on your viewpoint could be somewhat of an asset to UK PLC (lets not get into that boring argument, I could find stats to 'prove' both sides).
In the blue corner we have The Markles - Shallow, pushy, preening, also privileged and also self-pitying, seeming to benefit no-one but the media industry.
But the fight is something it's difficult not to hear about and it's tremendously amusing seeing pompous PHers getting very agitated over each other's comments while simultaneously trying to afford a degree of nonchalence about the outcome and pretending they're only here to sneer at the opposition
Yes, the irony wasn't lost on me when posting.....You can say Charles talks to weeds and interferes.
But Will & Kate vs Harry and Meghan is ultimately what it comes down to. And the former, to me, appear better people than the latter.
Welshbeef said:
Sent father to Coventry and stated he wasn’t part of her childhood when he has put the videos they had together in a documentary showing that’s patently not true.
I think he paid for her to go to private school, so seems to have a fair bit of involvement after the divorce. hyphen said:
But Will & Kate vs Harry and Meghan is ultimately what it comes down to. And the former, to me, appear better people than the latter.
Best of all, nobody would ever suspect a heavily trailed interview with Oprah Winfrey might involve big money changing hands. Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
rockin said:
Best of all, nobody would ever suspect a heavily trailed interview with Oprah Winfrey might involve big money changing hands.
Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
Are you suggesting H&M paid Oprah to do the interview?Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
I think you'll find money did change hands, just not in that direction.
Boobonman said:
rockin said:
Best of all, nobody would ever suspect a heavily trailed interview with Oprah Winfrey might involve big money changing hands.
Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
Are you suggesting H&M paid Oprah to do the interview?Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
I think you'll find money did change hands, just not in that direction.
rockin said:
Best of all, nobody would ever suspect a heavily trailed interview with Oprah Winfrey might involve big money changing hands.
Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
This is hilarious. Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
Oprah didn't get rich from charging people to have them on her show. Seriously.
Ntv said:
Boobonman said:
rockin said:
Best of all, nobody would ever suspect a heavily trailed interview with Oprah Winfrey might involve big money changing hands.
Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
Are you suggesting H&M paid Oprah to do the interview?Oprah is said to be worth $2.7billion ($2,700,000,000) so unless she's suddenly decided to work for free then either Harry's been saving up his pocket money or someone else is funding this circus.
I think you'll find money did change hands, just not in that direction.
Countdown said:
It's being/been produced by Oprah's production company. So she/her production company will have forked out all the costs, including any payments to H&M and will make money by selling it to Broadcasters (like ITV). If the interview doesn't sell then Oprah is the one potentially risking a loss.
Does 'The Firm' have shares in Oprah's production company? They seem to be doing everything possible to drive up interest and viewership - their activity is making it a hotter property every day.AnotherClarkey said:
Does 'The Firm' have shares in Oprah's production company? They seem to be doing everything possible to drive up interest and viewership - their activity is making it a hotter property every day.
indeed, and so is this thread. if it transpires that H&M negotiated a percentage of gross receipts I fear some Ph'ers will have cardiac arrests.... Countdown said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Does 'The Firm' have shares in Oprah's production company? They seem to be doing everything possible to drive up interest and viewership - their activity is making it a hotter property every day.
indeed, and so is this thread. if it transpires that H&M negotiated a percentage of gross receipts I fear some Ph'ers will have cardiac arrests.... popeyewhite said:
Countdown said:
AnotherClarkey said:
Does 'The Firm' have shares in Oprah's production company? They seem to be doing everything possible to drive up interest and viewership - their activity is making it a hotter property every day.
indeed, and so is this thread. if it transpires that H&M negotiated a percentage of gross receipts I fear some Ph'ers will have cardiac arrests.... The very memorable shot of Meghan calling the family 'The Firm' and calling them out as liars, which reminds me of nothing as much as Gene Hackman as mafia lawyer, and Tom Cruise as a brave and principled princess (something like that), will never go away.
Whatever happens next, that video is indelible.
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