Harry and Meghan

[Randy Winkman]

The Spruce Goose said:

techguyone said:

Will he manage to stay until Wednesday, that being the Queens birthday?

I heard a rumour MM will cut the crotches out of all his suits if he doesn't come back straight away, might not be true who knows?

I think that's probably just weird sexual fantasy of yours.

[rustednut]

There is a lot of vitriol on here.

Flack for attending! What flack would he have got for not attending?

Can't win, whatever he does. He did the right thing, attended a funeral without making himself centre of attention.

[austinsmirk]

I hope that whilst Harry has been back here, the family have had chance to sit down, have a decent chat and try to get matters sorted. At a time of crisis, perhaps it’ll pull them closer.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

poo at Paul's said:

loafer123 said:

hyphen said:

He saw Kate looking hot in her Funeral outfit, and realised he should have aimed higher than Meghan

It's fair to say that William is punching way above his natural weight...

When you see how ‘regal’ she was on this occasion (and all occasions to be fair) and then remember she’s a ‘commoner’ and also that they actually broke up reportedly because of that fact, it’s quite astonishing.
She’s got some class, that’s for sure.

She's got some class that girl. On our first trip away, I took my now wife to Oban for a weekend (not a euphemism) and after seeing a bit of a commotion ahead of us a few people came up to greet us at the harbour.

It became apparent that they thought they knew us but on approaching realised we weren't who they thought we were, after an apology they said they thought my (now)wife was Kate Middleton! Quite who the fk they thought I was I'll never know.

As it happens she's a royalist my wife so they properly made her day.

Apparently they "put two and two together" due to our Labrador-no I have no idea how that makes a crowd of people think the future king's girlfriend should be taking a walk in Oban holding hands with a rough arsed northerner with a dog either. Strange place, good seafood though.

[Sway]

austinsmirk said:

I hope that whilst Harry has been back here, the family have had chance to sit down, have a decent chat and try to get matters sorted. At a time of crisis, perhaps it’ll pull them closer.

Agreed.

[hyphen]

poo at Paul's said:

When you see how ‘regal’ she was on this occasion (and all occasions to be fair) and then remember she’s a ‘commoner’ and also that they actually broke up reportedly because of that fact, it’s quite astonishing.
She’s got some class, that’s for sure.

If Wills dies, does Kate become head of state. Not saying I want Wills to die , but Kate as head of state for the next 30 years would be better for the country. Wills is a bit dull from what I have seen of him.

[Sway]

hyphen said:

poo at Paul's said:

When you see how ‘regal’ she was on this occasion (and all occasions to be fair) and then remember she’s a ‘commoner’ and also that they actually broke up reportedly because of that fact, it’s quite astonishing.
She’s got some class, that’s for sure.

If Wills dies, does Kate become head of state. Not saying I want Wills to die , but Kate as head of state for the next 30 years would be better for the country. Wills is a bit dull from what I have seen of him.

No. The consort does not take the Crown...

When King William V (or whatever he "styles" himself as) dies, then step up King George VII (or whatever he "styles" himself as).

[SlimJim16v]

rustednut said:

There is a lot of vitriol on here.

Flack for attending! What flack would he have got for not attending?

Can't win, whatever he does. He did the right thing, attended a funeral without making himself centre of attention.

I don’t think he's had any flack for attending.

[rustednut]

SlimJim16v said:

I don’t think he's had any flack for attending.

I think he has, even if it was a little veiled.

He has made his decision on how he wants to live his life, and who with.

I have more respect for somebody with the courage to do that, than of the hangers on. Some of whom have much bigger issues in their life, that as a nation we are supposed (encouraged?) to look up to.

[768]

He might have had some flack, but I don't think he has for attending.

[Randy Winkman]

hyphen said:

poo at Paul's said:

When you see how ‘regal’ she was on this occasion (and all occasions to be fair) and then remember she’s a ‘commoner’ and also that they actually broke up reportedly because of that fact, it’s quite astonishing.
She’s got some class, that’s for sure.

If Wills dies, does Kate become head of state. Not saying I want Wills to die , but Kate as head of state for the next 30 years would be better for the country. Wills is a bit dull from what I have seen of him.

And she isn't dull? She seems nice enough to me but I'd thought that her dullness was a selling point for the bride of our future King.

I'll tell you who is less dull by comparison ........... Meghan Markle.

[tescorank]

Randy Winkman said:

hyphen said:

poo at Paul's said:

When you see how ‘regal’ she was on this occasion (and all occasions to be fair) and then remember she’s a ‘commoner’ and also that they actually broke up reportedly because of that fact, it’s quite astonishing.
She’s got some class, that’s for sure.

If Wills dies, does Kate become head of state. Not saying I want Wills to die , but Kate as head of state for the next 30 years would be better for the country. Wills is a bit dull from what I have seen of him.

And she isn't dull? She seems nice enough to me but I'd thought that her dullness was a selling point for the bride of our future King.

I'll tell you who is less dull by comparison ........... Meghan Markle.

until you look at her photos of her first marriage, she always seems to have a scowl on.

[JagLover]

Sway said:

No. The consort does not take the Crown...

When King William V (or whatever he "styles" himself as) dies, then step up King George VII (or whatever he "styles" himself as).

But they have acted as regent before, until the heir comes of age, so it is theoretically possible I think.

[Sway]

JagLover said:

Sway said:

No. The consort does not take the Crown...

When King William V (or whatever he "styles" himself as) dies, then step up King George VII (or whatever he "styles" himself as).

But they have acted as regent before, until the heir comes of age, so it is theoretically possible I think.

Yes, although Regent isn't Monarch (tell them that, based on history!).

However, whilst I concede the point, for Catherine to become Regent it would take Elizabeth, Charles and William to all die within the next decade.

[Halmyre]

Sway said:

JagLover said:

Sway said:

No. The consort does not take the Crown...

When King William V (or whatever he "styles" himself as) dies, then step up King George VII (or whatever he "styles" himself as).

But they have acted as regent before, until the heir comes of age, so it is theoretically possible I think.

Yes, although Regent isn't Monarch (tell them that, based on history!).

However, whilst I concede the point, for Catherine to become Regent it would take Elizabeth, Charles and William to all die within the next decade.

In that case wouldn't Harry be Regent? Or even Andrew?

[Sway]

Halmyre said:

Sway said:

JagLover said:

Sway said:

No. The consort does not take the Crown...

When King William V (or whatever he "styles" himself as) dies, then step up King George VII (or whatever he "styles" himself as).

But they have acted as regent before, until the heir comes of age, so it is theoretically possible I think.

Yes, although Regent isn't Monarch (tell them that, based on history!).

However, whilst I concede the point, for Catherine to become Regent it would take Elizabeth, Charles and William to all die within the next decade.

In that case wouldn't Harry be Regent? Or even Andrew?

I don't think there's any sort of precedent in the last couple of centuries to really give a clue...

But yes, maybe Harry, maybe Andrew. Or, maybe modern rules permit the female Consort to step up. There is the 'evil uncle' trope for a reason when it comes to Regencies...

[JagLover]

Sway said:

I don't think there's any sort of precedent in the last couple of centuries to really give a clue...

But yes, maybe Harry, maybe Andrew. Or, maybe modern rules permit the female Consort to step up. There is the 'evil uncle' trope for a reason when it comes to Regencies...

It is not necessarily a modern thing.

Many monarchies have had the consort as regent until the heir is of age. The earliest example in a unified England is 978.

That said I don't know what rules are in place for the British monarchy, so it could be someone else.

[McGee_22]

Sway said:

Halmyre said:

Sway said:

JagLover said:

Sway said:

No. The consort does not take the Crown...

When King William V (or whatever he "styles" himself as) dies, then step up King George VII (or whatever he "styles" himself as).

But they have acted as regent before, until the heir comes of age, so it is theoretically possible I think.

Yes, although Regent isn't Monarch (tell them that, based on history!).

However, whilst I concede the point, for Catherine to become Regent it would take Elizabeth, Charles and William to all die within the next decade.

In that case wouldn't Harry be Regent? Or even Andrew?

I don't think there's any sort of precedent in the last couple of centuries to really give a clue...

But yes, maybe Harry, maybe Andrew. Or, maybe modern rules permit the female Consort to step up. There is the 'evil uncle' trope for a reason when it comes to Regencies...

UK order of succession is Charles, William, George, Charlotte, Louis, Harry, Archie, Andrew, Beertricks and the Genie... and so on and on.

Georgie becomes 18 in 2031 so Sway is right that if Lizzie, Charlie and Billy croak before 2031then Katie might become Regent. There would of course be a 'Constitutional Crisis' and the fact she is most decidedly common would be the argument of any pretenders to the throne (Arry, Andrew et al) but for continuity of line then George is still numero uno and Katies demeanour and standing might/should/perhaps be enough for the secret powers that be to install her as Regent rather than have the pretenders argue the toss endlessly.

[MrJuice]

What about HRH The Princess Royal?

Doesn't she get a look in after Harry?

[Sway]

MrJuice said:

What about HRH The Princess Royal?

Doesn't she get a look in after Harry?

I believe, but am happy to be corrected, that the changes that have happened around lines of succession not ignoring females unless there's no possible other alternative weren't applied retrospectively.

The rules for 'oldest child' instead of 'oldest male child' only changed when William and Catherine were working on extending the line...

I get the impression people like the Princess Royal would absolutely hate ruling. She's got some serious character that one, and seemingly a great sense of humour.