Harry and Meghan

[mick987]

SpeckledJim said:

Well, yes. And it's where the privacy isn't.

Are they short on money, or short on privacy?

If it was privacy they wanted they would not have gone to the entertainment capital of the world and aired their families dirty washing for a hand full of gold.

[SpeckledJim]

mick987 said:

SpeckledJim said:

Well, yes. And it's where the privacy isn't.

Are they short on money, or short on privacy?

If it was privacy they wanted they would not have gone to the entertainment capital of the world and aired their families dirty washing for a hand full of gold.

We are in violent agreement!

[poo at Paul's]

More Woe is Me! from the poor Ginger Prince.

[98elise]

hyphen said:

Harry attacks Royals further in new Apple TV series with Oprah. He has a point and mental healthis as important as physical, but pretty sure some kid in Gaza had it worse than him...

And generally many other council estate kids whose mum died and family weren't the best support and didn't have the luxuries of such wealth, top education, staff and vip treatment.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/2...

Edited by hyphen on Friday 21st May 07:20

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

[98elise]

pquinn said:

In related news... Harry - 'The BBC killed my mum'.

No mate, shagging her way around any random with cash who'd keep her lifestyle going, an untrained drunk driver and crappy Parisian road safety is what killed your mum.

Unless you're stupid enough to think being talked into shouting your mouth off on TV will kill you in which case I have some really bad news...

The press not involved at all then?

[Sway]

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

I don't disagree - however do you really believe he's been 'neglected' by his family over the years?

[mick987]

Sway said:

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

Social disadvantage, poverty, debt or unemployment do cause mental health problems. In some cases mental health is connected to the lack of money.

[Randy Winkman]

Sway said:

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

I don't disagree - however do you really believe he's been 'neglected' by his family over the years?

Over the years, the royal family seem to have exemplified how not to bring up children. I guess it's common to royalty the world over.

[bitchstewie]

Sway said:

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

I don't disagree - however do you really believe he's been 'neglected' by his family over the years?

Do you think you know the answer to that better than he does?

Charles gave an interview to Dimbleby where he was very critical of how he himself was raised.

Wealth and privilege don't mean you have an ideal upbringing.

[SpeckledJim]

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

Not sure I agree there. Whilst anyone can be afflicted, work and worry can be important factors and if you've a lot of money, you can alleviate a lot of both of those.

And if you have money then you have access to treatment straight away. That's not usually the case if you're on your uppers.

WRT Harry though, his situation is pretty unique and I do have a lot of sympathy. I wouldn't swap my ordinary life for his.

[hyphen]

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

As someone said: "Being rich doesn't make you happy.

But it allows you to choose your own level of misery".

[Randy Winkman]

hyphen said:

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

As someone said: "Being rich doesn't make you happy.

But it allows you to choose your own level of misery".

I agree. The best example I ever heard about was Kurt Cobain. He achieved everything he ever wanted and still felt like ****.

[Sway]

bhstewie said:

Sway said:

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

I don't disagree - however do you really believe he's been 'neglected' by his family over the years?

Do you think you know the answer to that better than he does?

Charles gave an interview to Dimbleby where he was very critical of how he himself was raised.

Wealth and privilege don't mean you have an ideal upbringing.

I'm not talking about ideal upbringing.

I'm asking - do you think he was genuinely a victim of neglect and bullying by his family as he claims?

Phillip was open that sending Charles to Gordonstoun was a mistake - based on an assumption that the environment he thrived in would suit his son.

Charles didn't do that with William or Harry - at least, there's no claim that they were forced into Eton.

[bitchstewie]

Sway said:

I'm not talking about ideal upbringing.

I'm asking - do you think he was genuinely a victim of neglect and bullying by his family as he claims?

Phillip was open that sending Charles to Gordonstoun was a mistake - based on an assumption that the environment he thrived in would suit his son.

Charles didn't do that with William or Harry - at least, there's no claim that they were forced into Eton.

I'm suggesting Harry probably has a better idea of whether he was neglected than you do.

Do you think Charles was a "" for giving the interview he gave?

[rxe]

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

Cancer IS easier if you have money. You want access to the best doctors, now? Sure. You want to stay in bed after treatment rather than have to go to work? No problem. Compare that to someone with cancer who has to worry about where the next £ comes from.

Getting help for mental health is MUCH easier if you have money. A friends son went off the rails (badly) 2 years ago. The standard response from the NHS was "er, someone will see you in a few months". Parents had money, got him help, got him into rehab that cost more than Eton, he's well on the mend now. IMO if they'd left it to the NHS he'd be dead.

[miniman]

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

My experience would say it is.

[bitchstewie]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I'm sorry for what your nephew went through but I don't understand your point.

Would you tell him to stop being a victim if he'd let it impact him more than you think it should have?

[98elise]

Randy Winkman said:

Sway said:

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

I don't disagree - however do you really believe he's been 'neglected' by his family over the years?

Over the years, the royal family seem to have exemplified how not to bring up children. I guess it's common to royalty the world over.

Agreed.

[popeyewhite]

Sway said:

I'm asking - do you think he was genuinely a victim of neglect and bullying by his family as he claims?

Perhaps, in his view, perhaps not. Emotional abuse can take many forms. But that's largely irrelevant. Harry suffers from complicated grief and it's become pathological. He's very hurt and is lashing out angrily at those closest to him and apportioning blame. He is not at all well. In that context it's no surprise he's clinging to Meghan like a drowning man to a liferaft. What surprises me is amid all the psychobabble he's picked up from his therapists and shows fairly little understanding of he hasn't grasped (he must be near to drawing his own conclusion as to the true nature of his anxiety) the fact that anything he says publicly is through a lens of extreme hurt and emotional distress and as such he stands to hurt people just as he himself claims to have been hurt. All very negative and inward-looking, and unhealthy.

[Willhire89]

98elise said:

Your mothers death isn't made any easier by how much money you have or the education you had. Mental health is not connected to money. You might as well say cancer is easier if you have money.

It absolutely is - my friend's wife has had cancer three times and she would certainly be dead without the money.

The last time which is some years back now within days she had the latest 'cyber knife' surgery used by the first consultant to have access to it in the Uk. She's checked every month in London - no expense spared.