Harry and Meghan
Discussion
techiedave said:
Legend83 said:
The comments are quite good.These are 2 gems"
"In Dowton Abbey The introduction of an American wife did the family a world of good. I think they then went on to let one of the daughters shack up the Irish chauffeur – Something similar might help with this Irish backstop business"
"It is nice to see Harry is so keen on maintaining the tradition of having at least one absolute nutter in each generation of the royal family."
Harry Hewitt (aka Prince Harry) marries a woke SJW type....... who proceeds to lecture the rest of us from the pages of what must be the most vacuous publication ever.
If we had Splitting Image today 'their' puppets would be referred to by the rest of the Royal Family as"Ginge and Cringe"
alfaspecial said:
techiedave said:
Legend83 said:
The comments are quite good.These are 2 gems"
"In Dowton Abbey The introduction of an American wife did the family a world of good. I think they then went on to let one of the daughters shack up the Irish chauffeur – Something similar might help with this Irish backstop business"
"It is nice to see Harry is so keen on maintaining the tradition of having at least one absolute nutter in each generation of the royal family."
Harry Hewitt (aka Prince Harry) marries a woke SJW type....... who proceeds to lecture the rest of us from the pages of what must be the most vacuous publication ever.
If we had Splitting Image today 'their' puppets would be referred to by the rest of the Royal Family as"Ginge and Cringe"
Not sure who I'd side with vis-à-vis Vine versus Markle. If I was on a lifeboat with the two of them and limited food and water, and a gun with one bullet, I'd probably shoot myself.
Z-list, attractive celeb reaches A-list status through marriage; has a platform and preaches s**t.
The screwed up family no doubt does not help and clearly she has every right to distance herself from them. If they are half as bad as they come across/are portrayed, I don’t blame her for a second.
The 2-children max comment is just plain ignorance though with nothing discernible to back it up.
She just comes across as an annoying wannabe z-list actor who’s hit the big time and can’t handle it.
The screwed up family no doubt does not help and clearly she has every right to distance herself from them. If they are half as bad as they come across/are portrayed, I don’t blame her for a second.
The 2-children max comment is just plain ignorance though with nothing discernible to back it up.
She just comes across as an annoying wannabe z-list actor who’s hit the big time and can’t handle it.
Turfy said:
Z-list, attractive celeb reaches A-list status through marriage; has a platform and preaches s**t.
The screwed up family no doubt does not help and clearly she has every right to distance herself from them. If they are half as bad as they come across/are portrayed, I don’t blame her for a second.
The 2-children max comment is just plain ignorance though with nothing discernible to back it up.
She just comes across as an annoying wannabe z-list actor who’s hit the big time and can’t handle it.
I think she believes she has more clout than she actually does, and poor Harry,I feel for him. He comes across as a good guy, but since he's been with MM he's become a bit star struck and isn't thinking for himself, The screwed up family no doubt does not help and clearly she has every right to distance herself from them. If they are half as bad as they come across/are portrayed, I don’t blame her for a second.
The 2-children max comment is just plain ignorance though with nothing discernible to back it up.
She just comes across as an annoying wannabe z-list actor who’s hit the big time and can’t handle it.
Their PR team need a good slap
S1KRR said:
p4cks said:
Harry H said:
... it's going to end in tears.
This. We've already have an example of that intensity with Diana but that was back when people didn't have phones with cameras and social media etc. I genuinely do not know how you could survive if they were to divorce, I'm not saying it would be a repeat of 1997, but it's hard to imagine in the world we live in now.
hurstg01 said:
Turfy said:
Z-list, attractive celeb reaches A-list status through marriage; has a platform and preaches s**t.
The screwed up family no doubt does not help and clearly she has every right to distance herself from them. If they are half as bad as they come across/are portrayed, I don’t blame her for a second.
The 2-children max comment is just plain ignorance though with nothing discernible to back it up.
She just comes across as an annoying wannabe z-list actor who’s hit the big time and can’t handle it.
I think she believes she has more clout than she actually does, and poor Harry,I feel for him. He comes across as a good guy, but since he's been with MM he's become a bit star struck and isn't thinking for himself, The screwed up family no doubt does not help and clearly she has every right to distance herself from them. If they are half as bad as they come across/are portrayed, I don’t blame her for a second.
The 2-children max comment is just plain ignorance though with nothing discernible to back it up.
She just comes across as an annoying wannabe z-list actor who’s hit the big time and can’t handle it.
Their PR team need a good slap
Mort7 said:
98elise said:
How does their money come from the taxpayer? They get a % of the crown estate income, and that doesn't include Harry and Megan IIRC.
Sorry, missed that somehow. Explanation from the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48746609Edited by Mort7 on Wednesday 31st July 22:57
I can see how some may see them breaking with tradition (and the 2 babies to save the planet thing really is a t
ty thing to say given their carbon footprint) and others see them as more progressive. It is probably generational and I (hopefully, whilst still in my 40's) sit somewhere in the middle.But, that BBC link is absolutely disgusting reporting. It starts off with this:
The BBC said:
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex's home was renovated with £2.4m of taxpayer-funded costs, royal accounts show.
Before going on to say:The BBC said:
The Sovereign Grant is funded by profits from the Crown Estate.
The estate is the Royal Family's commercial property arm and owns land and buildings in prime central London locations and across the UK. It is managed by an independent organisation, with any profit paid to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers.
Separate accounts show the Crown Estate provided a record £343.5m to the Treasury in 2018-19, up 4.3% on last year."
Shocking journalism that actually is taxpayer funded in its entirety. The estate is the Royal Family's commercial property arm and owns land and buildings in prime central London locations and across the UK. It is managed by an independent organisation, with any profit paid to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers.
Separate accounts show the Crown Estate provided a record £343.5m to the Treasury in 2018-19, up 4.3% on last year."
I don't understand why a decent PR hasn't gone in there and told them both to just shut their mouths for a year or two before quietly pursuing projects that take their interests.
After the publicity with the Wedding, her Dad, sister (and any other horrible yank sibling) and the baby, they just need to melt away for a while.
Like them or not, William and Kate are particularly good at this.
Editing Vogue? That's just inviting (unnecessary) attention.
After the publicity with the Wedding, her Dad, sister (and any other horrible yank sibling) and the baby, they just need to melt away for a while.
Like them or not, William and Kate are particularly good at this.
Editing Vogue? That's just inviting (unnecessary) attention.
Muzzer79 said:
I don't understand why a decent PR hasn't gone in there and told them both to just shut their mouths for a year or two before quietly pursuing projects that take their interests.
After the publicity with the Wedding, her Dad, sister (and any other horrible yank sibling) and the baby, they just need to melt away for a while.
Like them or not, William and Kate are particularly good at this.
Editing Vogue? That's just inviting (unnecessary) attention.
Exactly - They seem to have a management and media team giving them very poor advice.They should know by now that anything that particularly Meaghan does is going to be jumped on. It is almost like they are encouraging it. A little quiet time, open a few hospital wings and kiddies homes, a couple of low key foreign trips representing the Queen, don't spend money too visibly etc would be best.After the publicity with the Wedding, her Dad, sister (and any other horrible yank sibling) and the baby, they just need to melt away for a while.
Like them or not, William and Kate are particularly good at this.
Editing Vogue? That's just inviting (unnecessary) attention.
JulianPH said:
Mort7 said:
98elise said:
How does their money come from the taxpayer? They get a % of the crown estate income, and that doesn't include Harry and Megan IIRC.
Sorry, missed that somehow. Explanation from the BBC - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48746609Edited by Mort7 on Wednesday 31st July 22:57
I can see how some may see them breaking with tradition (and the 2 babies to save the planet thing really is a t
ty thing to say given their carbon footprint) and others see them as more progressive. It is probably generational and I (hopefully, whilst still in my 40's) sit somewhere in the middle.But, that BBC link is absolutely disgusting reporting. It starts off with this:
The BBC said:
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex's home was renovated with £2.4m of taxpayer-funded costs, royal accounts show.
Before going on to say:The BBC said:
The Sovereign Grant is funded by profits from the Crown Estate.
The estate is the Royal Family's commercial property arm and owns land and buildings in prime central London locations and across the UK. It is managed by an independent organisation, with any profit paid to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers.
Separate accounts show the Crown Estate provided a record £343.5m to the Treasury in 2018-19, up 4.3% on last year."
Shocking journalism that actually is taxpayer funded in its entirety. The estate is the Royal Family's commercial property arm and owns land and buildings in prime central London locations and across the UK. It is managed by an independent organisation, with any profit paid to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers.
Separate accounts show the Crown Estate provided a record £343.5m to the Treasury in 2018-19, up 4.3% on last year."
"The Queen's Sovereign Grant from the Treasury was £82m in 2018-19, with £33m set aside for maintenance, including major work on Buckingham Palace.
The Sovereign Grant is funded by profits from the Crown Estate.
The estate is the Royal Family's commercial property arm and owns land and buildings in prime central London locations and across the UK. It is managed by an independent organisation, with any profit paid to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers."
And
"The royal accounts said the renovation of Frogmore Cottage was paid out of the Sovereign Grant and involved the "reconfiguration and full refurbishment of five residential units in poor condition to create the official residence for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex".
The 19th Century, Grade II-listed, property was given to them by the Queen.
It sits in the grounds of royal residence Frogmore House, where Prince Harry and Meghan held their wedding reception in May 2018."
So the conversion and renovation of the five privately-owned cottages into one large residence was funded by the taxpayer - despite Harry and Meghan having a perfectly good residence in Kensington Palace.
I wouldn't have a problem if HM had funded the renovation herself, before gifting the mansion which is laughingly referred to as a cottage to Harry and Meghan, but she didn't. I may, of course, have misunderstood, but I can't see how.
Mort7 said:
The relevant sections are surely these:-
The Sovereign Grant is funded by profits from the Crown Estate.
The estate is the Royal Family's commercial property arm and owns land and buildings in prime central London locations and across the UK. It is managed by an independent organisation, with any profit paid to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers."
Separate accounts show the Crown Estate provided a record £343.5m to the Treasury in 2018-19, up 4.3% on last year.
I wouldn't have a problem if HM had funded the renovation herself, before gifting the mansion which is laughingly referred to as a cottage to Harry and Meghan, but she didn't. I may, of course, have misunderstood, but I can't see how.
What is you are missing about "Separate accounts show the Crown Estate provided a record £343.5m to the Treasury in 2018-19, up 4.3% on last year."?The Sovereign Grant is funded by profits from the Crown Estate.
The estate is the Royal Family's commercial property arm and owns land and buildings in prime central London locations and across the UK. It is managed by an independent organisation, with any profit paid to the Treasury for the benefit of all UK taxpayers."
Separate accounts show the Crown Estate provided a record £343.5m to the Treasury in 2018-19, up 4.3% on last year.
I wouldn't have a problem if HM had funded the renovation herself, before gifting the mansion which is laughingly referred to as a cottage to Harry and Meghan, but she didn't. I may, of course, have misunderstood, but I can't see how.
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