Epstein dead in cell

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Zirconia

33,413 posts

232 months

Saturday 31st August
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I expect many people are getting their stories straight. Already a raft of people never really knew him.

The Hypno-Toad

9,767 posts

153 months

Saturday 31st August
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Zirconia said:
I expect many people are getting their stories straight. Already a raft of people never really knew him.
Epstein or Andrew? hehe

T-195

1,550 posts

9 months

Saturday 31st August
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2002 said:
Cupramax said:
Mandelson, now there is a god... let’s see if any dirt sticks to that slime ball.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7412517/P...
I think it's safe to assume Mandelson didn't do anything with Epstein's girls...

Looks like they went shopping together, so only crimes against fashion here. Oh, and mixing with the wrong people - but he's used to that being a politician.
Big difference between knowing someone and using them as a pimp to procure under age girls.

Mandelson for example.

Petrus1983

2,810 posts

110 months

Saturday 31st August
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La Liga

13,795 posts

104 months

Sunday 1st September
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Byker28i said:
You went full out attack on me

It wasn't misinformation.
Presenting something as a fact when it isn't established as such is spreading misinformation.

If it turns out to be factual in the future, that doesn't change what the information was or was not at the time.

It's not complicated to understand. It's the basic assessment of information.

Byker28i said:
But I get it you won't accept you were wrong, nor will you apologise so I'll just drop it, but it's revealed your character.
Nah, you should double down for the 15th time. Maybe it'll change what happened...


Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd September
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Todays nutjob conspiracy theory

For people who are adherents to the QAnon conspiracy theory, making it up as you go along is mandatory, and wackjob Trump-loving “journalist” Liz Crokin does just that. According to her, Jeffrey Epstein didn’t commit suicide; he was either executed by a military tribunal or was allowed to be killed by the “Clinton mafia.”

“Jeffrey Epstein did not commit suicide,” Crokin said in video clip flagged by Right Wing Watch. “I can guarantee you that 100 percent.”

“If Jeffrey Epstein is dead, I believe that it possibly could have been an execution, and I believe he possibly could have already faced a military tribunal and been executed,” she said.

“The theory is that the good guys knew that the Clinton mafia would try to take Jeffrey Epstein out. The theory is that the white hats allowed Jeffrey Epstein to be a sitting duck and allowed the Clinton mafia to knock him off in a sting operation so they could bust the Clintons in the act.”

https://deadstate.org/right-wing-journalist-jeffre...

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd September
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La Liga said:
Presenting something as a fact when it isn't established as such is spreading misinformation.
You've consistantly done that in your defence rather than admit you were wrong when you acuse me of saying cameras when I said it was a camera. I gave sources to the story, also to the detailed information of the suicide cells and the video recording within and locations.

As it turned out two did malfunction, outside the cell as Epstein had been moved from suicide watch. Those sources reported have been proven to be true, the story I reported has been verified. In your attempt to justify yourself you have twisted facts to suit your opinion.

I have nothing more to say to you. I pity your clients.



Edited by Byker28i on Monday 2nd September 07:30

La Liga

13,795 posts

104 months

Monday 2nd September
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Byker28i said:
You've consistantly done that in your defence rather than admit you were wrong when you acuse me of saying cameras when I said it was a camera.
I corrected the camera / cameras. If you'd read my post properly you'd have seen that.

Byker28i said:
I gave sources to the story, also to the detailed information of the suicide cells and the video recording within and locations.
Which was a Tweet which wasn't fact, which is why you were wrong to present it as so.

Byker28i said:
As it turned out two did malfunction, outside the cell as Epstein had been moved from suicide watch. Those sources reported have been proven to be true, the story I reported has been verified. In your attempt to justify yourself you have twisted facts to suit your opinion.
Which has nothing to do with what it was AT THE TIME.

Byker28i said:
I have nothing more to say to you. I pity your clients.
They posses basic critical thinking skills so it's all good.



Edited by Byker28i on Monday 2nd September 07:30

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd September
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The Mirror are now reporting:

A millionaire model agency boss thought to have vital evidence about the Jeffrey Epstein sex scandal has vanished.

Investigators who want to interview Frenchman Jean-Luc Brunel, 72, say he is a “ghost who has disappeared without trace”.

It is understood enquires are being made in Brazil, the US and Europe.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/jeffrey-epst...

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Tuesday 3rd September
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NY times today are reporting how Epstien also used dance schools

Several new filed suits say that when Mr. Epstein was luring teenagers into sexual exploitation in Florida, he was using a network of recruiters within New York City’s dance studios to procure aspiring performers into a similar scheme.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/03/nyregion/jeffre...

Zirconia

33,413 posts

232 months

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Wednesday 4th September
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Following that:

An anonymous man terrified he’s about to be named in court papers related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s alleged child sex trafficking ring is begging a judge not to release his name and identities of others accused — because it could tarnish their reputations, according to a surprise motion filed Tuesday.

Lawyers for the John Doe filed the letter Tuesday — just a day before Epstein’s self-proclaimed “sex slave” Virginia Roberts Giuffre is expected to join her lawyers in court as they continue efforts to unseal thousands of pages of documents related to her civil lawsuit against the dead pedophile’s alleged procuress.

https://nypost.com/2019/09/03/john-doe-begs-judge-...

Zirconia

33,413 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th September
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How do you mitigate it? I keep thinking back to Glitter and Saville and there must have been people that they crossed paths with that did nothing to enable them and had no benefit from them or knowledge of the crimes but by virtue of knowing them got tarred.

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Wednesday 4th September
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Zirconia said:
How do you mitigate it? I keep thinking back to Glitter and Saville and there must have been people that they crossed paths with that did nothing to enable them and had no benefit from them or knowledge of the crimes but by virtue of knowing them got tarred.
I guess thats where the judge decides what to release. An address book with names, wouldn't be much, but a little black book detailing blackmail material, or videos...

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Wednesday 4th September
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Looks like those documents might be coming, slowly

A tentative schedule has been set to roll out potentially thousands of pages of documents that could reveal more names of people allegedly involved in the late financier Jeffrey Epstein’s sex trafficking operation.

At a status conference in New York Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Loretta A. Preska set a timeline for review of more than 160 documents, which will be organized into categories and reviewed in the coming weeks.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/art...

Zirconia

33,413 posts

232 months

Thursday 5th September
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I did want John Doe to be a particular person or three.

Vizsla

728 posts

72 months

Thursday 5th September
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Zirconia said:
I did want John Doe to be a particular person or three.
"Do you know who I am?"

No, but we soon will do laugh

Zirconia

33,413 posts

232 months

Thursday 5th September
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Vizsla said:
"Do you know who I am?"

No, but we soon will do laugh
The politicos involved in the initial unbelievable deal are still around as are the people that enabled him. Already named could be connected to some un named. Going to be interesting.

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Thursday 5th September
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Looks like you'll get your wish soon. There's a scheduling order for the sealing request for the unreleased Epstein documents. Looks like the issues will be fully briefed in approx 5 weeks.



https://twitter.com/big_cases/status/1169663411837...

Byker28i

20,759 posts

165 months

Sunday 8th September
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Resignations at MIT after it was revealed that the M.I.T. Media Lab was aware of Epstein’s status as a convicted sex offender, and that Epstein directed contributions to the lab far exceeding the amounts M.I.T. has publicly admitted.
Joi Ito, the lab's director, resigned, and MIT's President announced an independent investigation:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-el...