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rdjohn said:
It’s interesting that £/€ is somewhat stronger this morning.
However much some people thing this is a non-starter, I suspect that some people see that it has legs. Neither Corbyn, nor Boris can hold any sort of majority. IMHO.
Attributing a move in the exchange rate solely to this seems a bit of a stretch!However much some people thing this is a non-starter, I suspect that some people see that it has legs. Neither Corbyn, nor Boris can hold any sort of majority. IMHO.
I'm sure quite a few people think it has legs. Dominic Grieve/Elysium for 1. Doesn't mean it will happen.
(Clark is the obvious choice - he's already stated he will be retiring ahead of the next GE so he has nothing to lose I guess. But the whole idea is distasteful in the extreme).
rs1952 said:
booboise blueboys said:
Swinson sounded out Harman as interim leader. Harman then came out yesterday publicly in favour of Corbyn's plans and not Swinson's. That shows you the level of support for the Lib Dems plans. Nothing like the same level for Labour.
Their bloody mindedness seems to be pissing off a lot of remainers. The LDs bang on for years about how Labour are enabling a no deal Brexit and then the LDs turn out to be the no deal party. LOL.
Its pathetic divisiveness from certain remainers but it's going to hand us no deal on a plate so can't complain too much.
At a time when political events are fast-moving it's a brave man who posts something like that. "LOL" at your leisure Their bloody mindedness seems to be pissing off a lot of remainers. The LDs bang on for years about how Labour are enabling a no deal Brexit and then the LDs turn out to be the no deal party. LOL.
Its pathetic divisiveness from certain remainers but it's going to hand us no deal on a plate so can't complain too much.
BBC news 54 minutes ago: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49367612
Edit - just confirmed on R4 1100 news
Edited by rs1952 on Friday 16th August 11:05
Should we LOL?
Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 16th August 12:23
Murph7355 said:
Attributing a move in the exchange rate solely to this seems a bit of a stretch!
I'm sure quite a few people think it has legs. Dominic Grieve/Elysium for 1. Doesn't mean it will happen.
(Clark is the obvious choice - he's already stated he will be retiring ahead of the next GE so he has nothing to lose I guess. But the whole idea is distasteful in the extreme).
It certainly fell below its previous boundary of €1.11 when Boris explained that no deal was the only game in town.I'm sure quite a few people think it has legs. Dominic Grieve/Elysium for 1. Doesn't mean it will happen.
(Clark is the obvious choice - he's already stated he will be retiring ahead of the next GE so he has nothing to lose I guess. But the whole idea is distasteful in the extreme).
Right now, I don’t think a chunk of the electorate will regard a short-term government of national unity, as distasteful.
FN2TypeR said:
She'll have to move to a safe English LD seat before the next election if she wants to remain an MP, the SNP will probably all but sweep the board in Scotland like they did in 2015 at this rate.
I'm not a fan of the SNP but I would piss myself if she was ousted by them.
Hmm, I doubt that. It was a bit of a surprise when she got ousted by John Nicholson (ex-BBC newsreader) in 2015 and she did win the seat back from him in 2017. That bit of the world has been Lib Dem for years apart from 2015-17 and she seems like a reasonable fit for the sort of people one might find around Bearsden & Milngavie. For those that don't know, the seat covers most of the East Dunbartonshire council area, which is generally very well off but excludes some of the poorer bits around Kirkintilloch etc. Demographics in that seat are very different to the rest of the West of Scotland. To give you an idea, the council (i.e. including the cruddier bits, such as they are) is 7 SNP, 6 LD, 6 Tory, 2 Lab. I can't see her ever changing seat unless she's ousted & gets back in at a by-election elsewhere.I'm not a fan of the SNP but I would piss myself if she was ousted by them.
It just gets better. Major U Turn by Swinson. She's worse than Corbyn.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
Le Controleur Horizontal said:
It just needed some notes
I couldn't care less about your politics, but why do you think it's acceptable to edit someone else's post? I'm sure you don't intend to confuse, but your comments could be attributed to rs1952, which ain't right. There's quite a bit of 'ETFY' on here and I always strikes me as a feeble attempt to undermine the poster. booboise blueboys said:
It just gets better. Major U Turn by Swinson. She's worse than Corbyn.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
Your posts on this thread come across as a little hysterical, almost “look at me laughing at her, when really inside I’m in pieces that it might happen and Brexit will be stopped”. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
Whether you like it or not, she is building some sort of momentum (I really didn’t want to use that word for obvious reasons) and this could spark some interesting political shenanigans over the coming weeks.
Lindun said:
booboise blueboys said:
It just gets better. Major U Turn by Swinson. She's worse than Corbyn.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
Your posts on this thread come across as a little hysterical, almost “look at me laughing at her, when really inside I’m in pieces that it might happen and Brexit will be stopped”. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
Whether you like it or not, she is building some sort of momentum (I really didn’t want to use that word for obvious reasons) and this could spark some interesting political shenanigans over the coming weeks.
No matter what your stance, the current situation is ludicrous.
MC Bodge said:
I agree entirely. There is a lot of fear from some people. The fear is that something sensible and rational could take place, which may help.
No matter what your stance, the current situation is ludicrous.
Something sensible and rational, such as?No matter what your stance, the current situation is ludicrous.
It seems we have No Deal vs continuing uncertainty with the hopes that a unicorn will appear shortly
MC Bodge said:
Lindun said:
booboise blueboys said:
It just gets better. Major U Turn by Swinson. She's worse than Corbyn.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
Your posts on this thread come across as a little hysterical, almost “look at me laughing at her, when really inside I’m in pieces that it might happen and Brexit will be stopped”. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bre...
Whether you like it or not, she is building some sort of momentum (I really didn’t want to use that word for obvious reasons) and this could spark some interesting political shenanigans over the coming weeks.
No matter what your stance, the current situation is ludicrous.
They can get at least another five years out of supporting the man that has failed to become an MP and he he gets to continue with his looney party grifting a living from the gullible and as a bonus they can carry on blaming their s
tty lives on the EU / Liberal Elites / Eastern Europeans / The Tories / Labour / Lib Dims / Ed Sheeran's swimming pool / Prince Harry's choice of bride and so forth. 
rdjohn said:
Right now, I don’t think a chunk of the electorate will regard a short-term government of national unity, as distasteful.
How big would that chunk be?My guess is it falls short of 48% by some margin..
All this will do, if it takes shape will be to gift influence to Farage, as it will yet again polarize the country. Some people are so blinded by their entrenched opinions on Brexit can't see the damage they're causing.
rdjohn said:
It certainly fell below its previous boundary of €1.11 when Boris explained that no deal was the only game in town.
Right now, I don’t think a chunk of the electorate will regard a short-term government of national unity, as distasteful.
Worth pointing out that a weak pound is not a totally bad thing. Good for exports, for example...Right now, I don’t think a chunk of the electorate will regard a short-term government of national unity, as distasteful.
When I lived near Glasgow, she was my MP.
I also was on a group alongside her late Father, a lovely guy.
Jo, in my opinion, is typical of many career politicians infesting our electoral system, happy to spout Meeja friendly soundbites, which can flip position 180 degrees from the previous position.
What really shows her mettle is her voting record, where she has supported the Tories more often than Michael Gove.
She has no shame in her part of enforcing Austerity, the war on Libya, all the feck ups that Cameron made.
She now opposes Climate Changes, but took £14k from a fracker.
If I called her an amoral, lying, toad, it would be unfair on amphibians.
All she wants is power, she really doesn't care how she gets it, or who suffers on the way to that power.
I'm not a fan......
I also was on a group alongside her late Father, a lovely guy.
Jo, in my opinion, is typical of many career politicians infesting our electoral system, happy to spout Meeja friendly soundbites, which can flip position 180 degrees from the previous position.
What really shows her mettle is her voting record, where she has supported the Tories more often than Michael Gove.
She has no shame in her part of enforcing Austerity, the war on Libya, all the feck ups that Cameron made.
She now opposes Climate Changes, but took £14k from a fracker.
If I called her an amoral, lying, toad, it would be unfair on amphibians.
All she wants is power, she really doesn't care how she gets it, or who suffers on the way to that power.
I'm not a fan......
munroman said:
When I lived near Glasgow, she was my MP.
I also was on a group alongside her late Father, a lovely guy.
Jo, in my opinion, is typical of many career politicians infesting our electoral system, happy to spout Meeja friendly soundbites, which can flip position 180 degrees from the previous position.
What really shows her mettle is her voting record, where she has supported the Tories more often than Michael Gove.
She has no shame in her part of enforcing Austerity, the war on Libya, all the feck ups that Cameron made.
She now opposes Climate Changes, but took £14k from a fracker.
If I called her an amoral, lying, toad, it would be unfair on amphibians.
All she wants is power, she really doesn't care how she gets it, or who suffers on the way to that power.
I'm not a fan......
Well saidI also was on a group alongside her late Father, a lovely guy.
Jo, in my opinion, is typical of many career politicians infesting our electoral system, happy to spout Meeja friendly soundbites, which can flip position 180 degrees from the previous position.
What really shows her mettle is her voting record, where she has supported the Tories more often than Michael Gove.
She has no shame in her part of enforcing Austerity, the war on Libya, all the feck ups that Cameron made.
She now opposes Climate Changes, but took £14k from a fracker.
If I called her an amoral, lying, toad, it would be unfair on amphibians.
All she wants is power, she really doesn't care how she gets it, or who suffers on the way to that power.
I'm not a fan......
67Dino said:
It's not really worth pointing out, there are benefits but they are very much short term. All countries aspire to having a strong and stable currency, a weak pound is not good for the long term health of our economy.67Dino said:
Worth pointing out that a weak pound is not a totally bad thing. Good for exports, for example...
One of the most common economic fallacies and probably the most repeated by those who do not know what a weak currency is.A weak currency is one that is continually decreasing in value. That is never a good thing.
A weak currency belies a weak and failing economy (see: Argentina) and weak economies do not encourage investment.
A weak currency is bad for exports because it makes the cost of production so much higher so that despite the low value of the currency, manufacturers have had to raise their prices to remain profitable.
The UK is like most developed nations, a net importer. This is not a bad thing because our exports are of a high enough value that we can afford to be a net importer. Also a high exchange rate doesn't affect the demand for our exports.
What businesses and Investors want is a stable economy. This means a stable currency backed by a stable political environment (this is why May's tagline was "strong and stable"). The UK is currently providing neither.
Ultimately the losers from any weak currency will be anyone who buys goods in that currency and anyone who gets paid in that currency. Winners will be foreign investors who can buy up land and assets cheap.
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