Jo Swinson

[anonymous-user]

zygalski said:

Yeah, teachers are st aren't they. Who needs 'em?

To be fair you could fairly easily adopt a blended model and cull the profession by about 70%, keeping the great ones and changing their delivery model.

[psi310398]

sugerbear said:

hutchst said:

Mr Tidy said:

My Dad always said that those who can teach, teach.

Those that can do, do!

My Dad always said that those that can, do, and those that can't, teach.

Which is why all great businessmen and and women are raised by wolves in a Siberian forest. ??

I was reflecting while watching Celebrity Masterchef that some of the very impressive young people appearing there clearly had not done well at school (or worse). Of course, this is a trade where the lack of academic success is not a barrier to entry.

Despite this lack of qualifications, these people had nothing to learn from most of us in terms of application, perseverance, attention to detail, willingness to learn and conforming to the highest of standards.

It left me wondering if we are educating some of these virtues out of people rather than into them.

[fiju]

The saying "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach" hasn't just come about recently. There is an element of truth in it, just like any stereotype - and I fully agree with it. How can you teach a subject without working in that field? Where is your expertise coming from? There is only so much to be learnt from books.
I said it to a teacher of mine back in college, in which she went one further with the line "And those who can't teach, teach teachers".

I'm a firm believer that a lot of teachers are idiots. If they were any good, they wouldn't be teaching. I lump them in the same category as recruiters and estate agents.

[Troubleatmill]

Swinson said/did....
"I want a proper In-Out referendum on Europe"
"I can't ever forgive David Cameron for giving us a referendum on Europe"

"I will give every student free university education"
"I voted to increase university fees to £9000 a year"

"I voted for the bedroom tax"
"I wish to get rid of the bedroom tax"

"I want a people's vote to settle Brexit"
"Even if Leave win a people's vote - I will block Brexit in Parliament"
"If the Lib Dems win - we will unilaterally block Brexit"
then.....
"I want a people's vote to settle Brexit"


She is the very worst of a politician.
A two face lying cow.
She has no principles.

[anonymous-user]

Great teachers provide the building block knowledge that enables the talented to push the boundaries further than they themselves can achieve. They inspire and provide the directional guidance for the next generation who will be producing a world they themselves don't yet imagine.

That is how the human race moves forward, by not having to learn from scratch what our predecessor generation had to work hard to discover.

Onwards and upwards we go to a world that will be very different to the one i will leave behind.

Bad teachers try and mould students in their own image and world view. They are morons.

[glazbagun]

jsf said:

Great teachers provide the building block knowledge that enables the talented to push the boundaries further than they themselves can achieve. They inspire and provide the directional guidance for the next generation who will be producing a world they themselves don't yet imagine.

That is how the human race moves forward, by not having to learn from scratch what our predecessor generation had to work hard to discover.

Onwards and upwards we go to a world that will be very different to the one i will leave behind.

Bad teachers try and mould students in their own image and world view. They are morons.

Learning from awesome practitioners of anything is often really tough because they do a bad job of explaining their reasoning to you and make no effort to see things from your POV. A good teacher will have multiple ways of looking at the same problem and the empathy required to help you understand.

[Thorodin]

Teaching is much the same as selling. It's not about telling, it's about asking.

[Pan Pan Pan]

glazbagun said:

jsf said:

Great teachers provide the building block knowledge that enables the talented to push the boundaries further than they themselves can achieve. They inspire and provide the directional guidance for the next generation who will be producing a world they themselves don't yet imagine.

That is how the human race moves forward, by not having to learn from scratch what our predecessor generation had to work hard to discover.

Onwards and upwards we go to a world that will be very different to the one i will leave behind.

Bad teachers try and mould students in their own image and world view. They are morons.

Learning from awesome practitioners of anything is often really tough because they do a bad job of explaining their reasoning to you and make no effort to see things from your POV. A good teacher will have multiple ways of looking at the same problem and the empathy required to help you understand.

Agree with this, I was teaching for over 13 years, and one of the things I particularly wanted to do, was explain why (as far as I understood them) why something had to be done, or learned/ tackled in a specific way, rather than just say to students, do this, do that, with no explanations of why, which was essentially what I used to get as a student.
There were even subjects on the curriculum which appeared to have no practical modern use, but which nevertheless were included in some of the exams. I would therefor start with the comment `what I am about to present to you, appears to have no modern practical use, but it may be, that one of you, could tell me why I am wrong in this assumption. What what I can tell you, is that a question of some kind on this subject is almost certainly going to be included in the Exams, which is why we are going to have to try to get through it today. In front of a classful of students, complete honesty was always the best way to go in my book..

[kev1974]

I missed this at the time, but just had a good laugh scrolling through

https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1206329...

Click on the Lib Dem Press Office tweet that's embedded in Andrew's tweet.

[CoolHands]

Baroness Swinson on the way?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7799119...

[craigjm]

CoolHands said:

Baroness Swinson on the way?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7799119...

So the caretaker leader says he wants her back in parliament as soon as possible means she will be getting a peerage does it? Big jump in context that

[Vanden Saab]

CoolHands said:

Baroness Swinson on the way?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7799119...

That is just somebody trolling Bercow...