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Thinking of what you've written, MX6, it looks like there'll be nothing left of the party.
A totally new party might as well be formed, but not a single-issue party like JS has made this into. The Lib Dems are too tarnished by the coalition years and this campaign. As much as JS criticises the old, grey men a party needs the experience and wisdom that comes with age as much as the vitality and eagerness of fresh blood. The old guard has gone or has been forgotten because of the very amateur leadership tactics we've seen employed.
A totally new party might as well be formed, but not a single-issue party like JS has made this into. The Lib Dems are too tarnished by the coalition years and this campaign. As much as JS criticises the old, grey men a party needs the experience and wisdom that comes with age as much as the vitality and eagerness of fresh blood. The old guard has gone or has been forgotten because of the very amateur leadership tactics we've seen employed.
SpeckledJim said:
Corbyn and Johnson (deservedly) get MILES more stick than Swinson does.
But this is the Swinson thread, and for everyone who thinks Swinson is great, there are probably three or four who think she's awful, and that is being reflected here.
On the Corbyn and Johnson threads it's more like 1:99, so take some solace in that!
I’m going to vote for the libdems but I don’t even think she’s great, I don’t think anyone on here has said they even like her particularly. Just that their policies seem ok and the other options seem worse. But this is the Swinson thread, and for everyone who thinks Swinson is great, there are probably three or four who think she's awful, and that is being reflected here.
On the Corbyn and Johnson threads it's more like 1:99, so take some solace in that!
I’m not attached to any party ideologically, although I usually vote conservative, I’ve just looked at all of them to see which I think will be best or (more likely) least worse. It’s obvious to me they aren’t going to win a majority or even win my constituency so voting for them won’t help corbyn win and it’s not going to lead to some kind of corbyn and McDonnell cultural and economic Stalinist revolution.
Looks to me like the conservatives gave us brexit and have been in charge for nine years and I don’t really like the direction they’re heading in under Boris so it’s time to place my vote elsewhere.
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crankedup said:
uk66fastback said:
So who'll be the new leader on Friday when Jo resigns?
Chuka better hope he gets in if he wants a go - is there anyone left anyway - they've all had a go ...
Not sure Chuka will get in anyway. Good riddance to that 'loyal MP' if he doesn't.
That would really pChuka better hope he gets in if he wants a go - is there anyone left anyway - they've all had a go ...
Not sure Chuka will get in anyway. Good riddance to that 'loyal MP' if he doesn't.
s off Ed Davey seeing chucka shimmer into poll position.Lib Dems were never going to win, their chances definitely went once they pledged to revoke article 50.
The remain alliance failing to agree about voting pacts was the final straw. Then swinson having a presidential campaign just made it all worse.
Boris’s spending plans all seem pretty centrist, hopefully he’s indeed the one nation Tory he says he is. I don’t think it’s too difficult for conservative centrists or remainers that voted libdem to get behind the conservatives again. Let’s face it, it’s a massive relief for most that corbyn didn’t win.
With swinson gone, that’s probably the end of the thread.
Cheers everyone.
The remain alliance failing to agree about voting pacts was the final straw. Then swinson having a presidential campaign just made it all worse.
Boris’s spending plans all seem pretty centrist, hopefully he’s indeed the one nation Tory he says he is. I don’t think it’s too difficult for conservative centrists or remainers that voted libdem to get behind the conservatives again. Let’s face it, it’s a massive relief for most that corbyn didn’t win.
With swinson gone, that’s probably the end of the thread.
Cheers everyone.
chris watton said:
El stovey said:
Robertj21a said:
Blame David Cameron and all those within the M25 who never understood the mood of the country.
What’s the mood of the country? How can you possibly know why people (the country) voted the way they did.
There’s so many different factors at play in this election.
I’m not sure how anyone can say what the mood of the country is when so many factors are involved. People then just say the mood is whatever they want to suit their own narrative.
I’m not saying what the mood of the country is apart from it’s to vote the conservatives into government. There’s loads of reasons why it happened though.
She was toast and burned bridges
Soon as she effectively slagged her deputy Ed Davey off in some interview about the coalition I thought she will be a leader with an issue. That issue being the working relationship between her and her deputy
IMHO Best thing they could do is just give it to Ed Davey - not my cup of tea but has some reasonable interview experience.
Soon as she effectively slagged her deputy Ed Davey off in some interview about the coalition I thought she will be a leader with an issue. That issue being the working relationship between her and her deputy
IMHO Best thing they could do is just give it to Ed Davey - not my cup of tea but has some reasonable interview experience.
amusingduck said:
bhstewie said:
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Dibble said:
I understand people may disagree with her policies and/or politics, but is it really necessary to make comments about her physical appearance, her teeth, her dress sense?
No, not really. But we do it. We judge each other on how we look, Naked Attraction is an example. The same criticism has been aimed at BoJo and JCo and it's just an extension of our dislike for them, generally, anyway. personally I think the way it was dealt with for the best.
By losing her seat she couldn't stay on as the leader. Had she done so the air would have been toxic around her.
Events overtook her and fate dealt with it
Best all round
I do think its ironic all the time given over to her in interviews, debates leader debates etc
We have had way too much politics way too many debates
By losing her seat she couldn't stay on as the leader. Had she done so the air would have been toxic around her.
Events overtook her and fate dealt with it
Best all round
I do think its ironic all the time given over to her in interviews, debates leader debates etc
We have had way too much politics way too many debates
Robertj21a said:
Will she be the LibDem leader for the shortest time ever ? I know it's a crowded race for the title but I've totally forgotten all the others apart from long serving Ashdown and Cable.
YesI believe she is the shortest serving party leader of all major political parties
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