Police Officer killed on duty

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Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

133 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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techiedave said:
I have a nasty feeling that this may not end up in a murder conviction.
I am not posting this to be awkward or difficult. I just have a genuine nasty feeling that It's slipping away and it's going to be downscaled to an assault or something
I've thought that from day one.
There was no premeditation and proving intent will be impossible. This one is a dead cert case of manslaughter.

Red 4

10,744 posts

188 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Tannedbaldhead said:
techiedave said:
I have a nasty feeling that this may not end up in a murder conviction.
I am not posting this to be awkward or difficult. I just have a genuine nasty feeling that It's slipping away and it's going to be downscaled to an assault or something
I've thought that from day one.
There was no premeditation and proving intent will be impossible. This one is a dead cert case of manslaughter.
I posted this earlier in the thread.

For comparison (although it was easy to prove who was driving in this case);

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-3...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35860607

Manslaughter.

Edited by Red 4 on Monday 19th August 19:14

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Grahamdub said:
rscott said:
Presumably a single crewed car? If backup wasn't available, I'm not surprised they didn't get involved.
We were held up for at least 20 minutes. Plenty of time to get back up.
Only if someone is available.




anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Greendubber said:
Grahamdub said:
rscott said:
Presumably a single crewed car? If backup wasn't available, I'm not surprised they didn't get involved.
We were held up for at least 20 minutes. Plenty of time to get back up.
Only if someone is available.
Only if somebody could be bothered more like. When the local boy racers blocked a road to race on, the police helicopter was out.

poo at Paul's

14,153 posts

176 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Looking at the aerial photos of the various sites connected to this one has to wonder why the fk we all put up with it and accept how these people chose to live.

Houses that cost someone 750k or so in a green and leafy well kept area, then you have this fking sthole, just take a look at the aerial shots. Considering how fking green we are all told we need to be nowadays, look at all the burned out shyte on this land.

Seriously, why the fk do we allow it. Why is it ok to have these ‘people’ live like this? When others have to pay st loads to live next to it and keep the area nice.

Dirty fkers

anonymous-user

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55 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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poo at Paul's said:
Looking at the aerial photos of the various sites connected to this one has to wonder why the fk we all put up with it and accept how these people chose to live.

Houses that cost someone 750k or so in a green and leafy well kept area, then you have this fking sthole, just take a look at the aerial shots. Considering how fking green we are all told we need to be nowadays, look at all the burned out shyte on this land.

Seriously, why the fk do we allow it. Why is it ok to have these ‘people’ live like this? When others have to pay st loads to live next to it and keep the area nice.

Dirty fkers
It’s not so much the house values, it’s the fact that people have chosen to live peacefully in that area because of its location, will have worked hard to get to afford a property there and have a right to enjoy what they have without total scum buggering it up on a daily basis.
Being council owned the neighbours could have a Human Rights case against it - their quiet enjoyment of their own property being adversely affected by morons on council land.
And the same goes for anyone living near one of these shanty towns ridden with crime.

Greendubber

13,222 posts

204 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Grahamdub said:
Greendubber said:
Grahamdub said:
rscott said:
Presumably a single crewed car? If backup wasn't available, I'm not surprised they didn't get involved.
We were held up for at least 20 minutes. Plenty of time to get back up.
Only if someone is available.
Only if somebody could be bothered more like. When the local boy racers blocked a road to race on, the police helicopter was out.
Yes, because there couldn't be anything else happening could there?




Pupp

12,239 posts

273 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Beeb just reported a 20 yr old charged with murder.
Also charged with theft of a quad bike.

Petrus1983

8,770 posts

163 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Pupp said:
Beeb just reported a 20 yr old charged with murder.
Also charged with theft of a quad bike.
Just seen. Hope the scum rots.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Murder charge.


Vaud

50,613 posts

156 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Petrus1983 said:
Pupp said:
Beeb just reported a 20 yr old charged with murder.
Also charged with theft of a quad bike.
Just seen. Hope the scum rots.
I hope he is given a fair trial and a fair punishment.

Remember, he is innocent right now - sorry if that interferes with the NP&E rhetoric.

Stan the Bat

8,935 posts

213 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Petrus1983 said:
Pupp said:
Beeb just reported a 20 yr old charged with murder.
Also charged with theft of a quad bike.
Just seen. Hope the scum rots.
Just need the conviction first.

Agammemnon

1,628 posts

59 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Petrus1983 said:
Just seen. Hope the scum rots.
If found guilty first, yes.

Puggit

48,482 posts

249 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Vaud said:
I hope he is given a fair trial and a fair punishment.

Remember, he is innocent right now - sorry if that interferes with the NP&E rhetoric.
Innocent of this crime so far. No doubt guilty of others.

Bigends

5,424 posts

129 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Vaud said:
Petrus1983 said:
Pupp said:
Beeb just reported a 20 yr old charged with murder.
Also charged with theft of a quad bike.
Just seen. Hope the scum rots.
I hope he is given a fair trial and a fair punishment.

Remember, he is innocent right now - sorry if that interferes with the NP&E rhetoric.
Great news

Petrus1983

8,770 posts

163 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Stan the Bat said:
Petrus1983 said:
Pupp said:
Beeb just reported a 20 yr old charged with murder.
Also charged with theft of a quad bike.
Just seen. Hope the scum rots.
Just need the conviction first.
Agreed. In fairness to the force they have handled themselves very well so hope their diligence will pay off.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Hopefully he is the guilty person or persons and there is ample evidence for beyond reasonable doubt.



Just thinking right now he and his wife would have been starting to enjoy their first few days of their honeymoon. Sometimes life is so cruel - I hope his wife parents family and friends can in time have some of the shattering rawness of his death eased.

What a needless and extremely sad situation.
From everything that people who knew him and had the benefit of his work have written he certainly was one of the good guys taken from us at the prime of his life.

RIP.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Names as Jed Foster - in all news outlets he is 20yo.

Anyone any info on him : can anyone dig the tinternet for more about him.

scrw.

2,627 posts

191 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Names as Jed Foster - in all news outlets he is 20yo.

Anyone any info on him : can anyone dig the tinternet for more about him.
why?

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

55 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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scrw. said:
Welshbeef said:
Names as Jed Foster - in all news outlets he is 20yo.

Anyone any info on him : can anyone dig the tinternet for more about him.
why?
Daily Mail or Sun I imagine will be all over him.

Do you think he’s admitted to the murder hence the charge?