Police Officer killed on duty
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Like this and so many other cases.. how on earth can someone defend scum ? Ie solicitors? How can they do it. I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty part but there has to come a point where even they know what's what. Would they still proceed to defend or simply say f
k it , you done it burn
k it , you done it burnJaybmw said:
Like this and so many other cases.. how on earth can someone defend scum ? Ie solicitors? How can they do it. I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty part but there has to come a point where even they know what's what. Would they still proceed to defend or simply say fk it , you done it burn
Because if you don't have representation, you can't get a fair trial, and if you can't get a fair trial, you can't be fairly convicted and sent down.k it , you done it burnIt is necessary for someone to act as their lawyer in order for our legal system to function.
otolith said:
Jaybmw said:
Like this and so many other cases.. how on earth can someone defend scum ? Ie solicitors? How can they do it. I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty part but there has to come a point where even they know what's what. Would they still proceed to defend or simply say fk it , you done it burn
Because if you don't have representation, you can't get a fair trial, and if you can't get a fair trial, you can't be fairly convicted and sent down.k it , you done it burnIt is necessary for someone to act as their lawyer in order for our legal system to function.
One of the problems of defending a free society is that you spend most of your time defending scoundrels.
Besides, we all should have learned the problems of trial by media. I draw your attention to Lindsey Chamberlain. Procedure must be adhered to to ensure that any result in court is just and fair... Doubly so when the accused are widely perceived to be anything but just not fair.
Jaybmw said:
Like this and so many other cases.. how on earth can someone defend scum ? Ie solicitors? How can they do it. I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty part but there has to come a point where even they know what's what. Would they still proceed to defend or simply say fk it , you done it burn
Mark Bridgerk it , you done it burnIan Watkins
Ian Huntley
Tracey Connelly
Etc etc.
To represent them and ensure you deliver to their best interests knowing they are monsters and ensuring there is no chance of appeal. It must be hard but at least we can see “justice” being carried out.
Jaybmw said:
Like this and so many other cases.. how on earth can someone defend scum ? Ie solicitors? How can they do it. I understand the whole innocent until proven guilty part but there has to come a point where even they know what's what. Would they still proceed to defend or simply say fk it , you done it burn
Belief in a fair trial and due process. Because the state has never ever got it wrong, have they?k it , you done it burnMurder may actually be the wrong conviction. Maybe manslaughter was the actual offence? Maybe 2 are guilty and one is innocent.... etc
Defence isn't about defending "scum". It's about ensuring a fair trial for the accused.
La Liga said:
The charges are dropped for the first person.
Good job we have processes so many seen keen to bypass when there's an emotive crime.
I think I did speculate there was a potential fall guy originally. As you say, always better to wait. I hope charges stick to someone for the murder and at least a few for accessory to.Good job we have processes so many seen keen to bypass when there's an emotive crime.
'The first person' being Jed Foster.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/pc-andrew-ha...
Be interesting to hear what the new evidence leading to these other three is.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/pc-andrew-ha...
Be interesting to hear what the new evidence leading to these other three is.
SydneyBridge said:
Would forensics have taken this long?
Doubtful.I am guessing, but I can see a scenario where with various forensics, they could tie the crime down to one of a number of people. It is then a case of working out which one was the murderer and which were the accessories to the crime. Who knows what lies were spun and how the truth had to be unraveled from a web of bulls
t and nonsense, but I am guessing it is that which took the time.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff