If shenanigans in the House lead to a General Election

[JuanCarlosFandango]

ash73 said:

The Brexit Party is a collection of nutters, it's a wrecking ball for British politics and hasn't even got a manifesto; yet over 20% of people on here would vote for them.

Idiots.

When was the last time a winning party actually delivered on it's manifesto?

Did John Major deliver the best future for Britain?
Did things only get better after 1997?

They were all going to save the NHS, which is in perpetual crisis, they were all going to sort out immigration and education, balance the budget and keep taxes low by making the civil service more efficient. They were all going to keep us trading with Europe without sacrificing sovereignty.

Worked out about as well as this strong and stable government we voted in a couple of years ago.

Yet still people vote Tory or Labour thinking at least they'll keep the other lot out.

Who are the idiots?

Edited by JuanCarlosFandango on Thursday 22 August 08:22

[Troubleatmill]

ash73 said:

The Brexit Party is a collection of nutters, it's a wrecking ball for British politics and hasn't even got a manifesto; yet over 20% of people on here would vote for them.

Idiots.

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

[bad company]

These polls look great but somehow I don’t think PH membership is a typical of the population as a whole.

[fatbutt]

Troubleatmill said:

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

Voting a party in that has only one policy as it's USP is a bizarre way to establish a government. Do you know what the rest of their manifesto is? If you can find out anything about defense, international policy, environmental policy, NHS or pretty much anything you're doing better than me (and their website: https://www.thebrexitparty.org/)

[WCZ]

crazy how many people have forgiven the tories already, I personally haven't and I don't think i'll trust them for many years now.

[Agammemnon]

WCZ said:

crazy how many people have forgiven the tories already, I personally haven't and I don't think i'll trust them for many years now.

I agree that they deserve punishment for their actions but this isn't the time or place to do so.

Edited by Agammemnon on Thursday 22 August 12:23

[Lily the Pink]

WCZ said:

crazy how many people have forgiven the tories already, I personally haven't and I don't think i'll trust them for many years now.

Is there any political party which you do trust ?

[Jazzy Jag]

Agammemnon said:

WCZ said:

crazy how many people have forgiven the tories already, I personally haven't and I don't think i'll trust them for many years now.

I agree that they deserve punishment for their actions but this is't the time or place to do so.

If not now, when?

By the 2024 ish election all will have been forgotten and a new "crisis " will be top of everyone's agenda.

[Troubleatmill]

fatbutt said:

Troubleatmill said:

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

Voting a party in that has only one policy as it's USP is a bizarre way to establish a government. Do you know what the rest of their manifesto is? If you can find out anything about defense, international policy, environmental policy, NHS or pretty much anything you're doing better than me (and their website: https://www.thebrexitparty.org/)

I couldn’t give a flying fk what their other policies are.
Just get us out of Europe. That is all

If I vote Conservative, there will be a never ending procession of traitors like Grieve, Soubry etc

If we are not out by 1st Nov - I will never vote Tory again.


If BP can get us out of Europe then even 4-5 years of fkwittery is acceptable.

[Agammemnon]

Jazzy Jag said:

If not now, when?

By the 2024 ish election all will have been forgotten and a new "crisis " will be top of everyone's agenda.

Whilst I accept your point, the main alternative is a marxist/communist bunch of lunatics that would bankrupt the country in no time.

[JagLover]

I think Johnson has done enough so far to give the Tories another chance if it came to it. That might change in the future though.

Based on current opinion polls many other disillusioned Tory voters now feel the same.

[Troubleatmill]

Agammemnon said:

Whilst I accept your point, the main alternative is a marxist/communist bunch of lunatics that would bankrupt the country in no time.

Should give the Pro EU Tories something to mull over

[screwball]

Troubleatmill said:

fatbutt said:

Troubleatmill said:

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

Voting a party in that has only one policy as it's USP is a bizarre way to establish a government. Do you know what the rest of their manifesto is? If you can find out anything about defense, international policy, environmental policy, NHS or pretty much anything you're doing better than me (and their website: https://www.thebrexitparty.org/)

I couldn’t give a flying fk what their other policies are.
Just get us out of Europe. That is all

If I vote Conservative, there will be a never ending procession of traitors like Grieve, Soubry etc

If we are not out by 1st Nov - I will never vote Tory again.


If BP can get us out of Europe then even 4-5 years of fkwittery is acceptable.

And sod the country ?

[Jazzy Jag]

Agammemnon said:

Jazzy Jag said:

If not now, when?

By the 2024 ish election all will have been forgotten and a new "crisis " will be top of everyone's agenda.

Whilst I accept your point, the main alternative is a marxist/communist bunch of lunatics that would bankrupt the country in no time.

Which should be motivation for the Tories to sort themselves out or lose their jobs.

[Troubleatmill]

As I said above - if the Tory party traitors help get us of the EU before 1st Nov there is no need for the Brexit party to exist.

The Brexit party only exists because we have a load of Remainer MP’s drawing a salary while they stand under a Leave organisation.

It is their doing. Not mine.

We voted to leave
We we promised it would be delivered

It is not delivered

I have no qualms whatsoever if the Tory party becomes extinct

[WCZ]

Agammemnon said:

I agree that they deserve punishment for their actions but this isn't the time or place to do so.

Edited by Agammemnon on Thursday 22 August 12:23

now is the right time, otherwise they'll keep doing whatever they want - if they get away with this then they are immune from pretty much anything.

[Jazzy Jag]

screwball said:

Troubleatmill said:

fatbutt said:

Troubleatmill said:

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

Voting a party in that has only one policy as it's USP is a bizarre way to establish a government. Do you know what the rest of their manifesto is? If you can find out anything about defense, international policy, environmental policy, NHS or pretty much anything you're doing better than me (and their website: https://www.thebrexitparty.org/)

I couldn’t give a flying fk what their other policies are.
Just get us out of Europe. That is all

If I vote Conservative, there will be a never ending procession of traitors like Grieve, Soubry etc

If we are not out by 1st Nov - I will never vote Tory again.


If BP can get us out of Europe then even 4-5 years of fkwittery is acceptable.

And sod the country ?

Isn't it the Government's job to think about and be held accountable for that?

[Agammemnon]

WCZ said:

now is the right time, otherwise they'll keep doing whatever they want - if they get away with this then they are immune from pretty much anything.

Balanced against that is the need to not cut our nose off to spite our face. I think some recent council election results gave them an indication of some of the anger out there- instead of punishment I would be happy for them to mend a few fences & perform well to earn redemption.

[screwball]

Jazzy Jag said:

screwball said:

Troubleatmill said:

fatbutt said:

Troubleatmill said:

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

Voting a party in that has only one policy as it's USP is a bizarre way to establish a government. Do you know what the rest of their manifesto is? If you can find out anything about defense, international policy, environmental policy, NHS or pretty much anything you're doing better than me (and their website: https://www.thebrexitparty.org/)

I couldn’t give a flying fk what their other policies are.
Just get us out of Europe. That is all

If I vote Conservative, there will be a never ending procession of traitors like Grieve, Soubry etc

If we are not out by 1st Nov - I will never vote Tory again.


If BP can get us out of Europe then even 4-5 years of fkwittery is acceptable.

And sod the country ?

Isn't it the Government's job to think about and be held accountable for that?

Yes, but the distinct lack of any policies leads me to think they are not thinking about any more than a single issue.

[Agammemnon]

ash73 said:

The Brexit party will continue to be disruptive after we exit, because we'll immediately want to negotiate a trade deal... the EU will say fine, pay us the £39Bn and sign up to conditions xyz as a pre-requisite (most likely those already in the WA); then we can do a deal. At which point Farage will throw his toys out of the pram and his little gang of shortsighted idiots will cause chaos again.

Lack of a deal will hurt the EU more than us- they don't need a war & will be likely to let pragmatism overcome their dogma fairly quickly.