If shenanigans in the House lead to a General Election

[amusingduck]

ash73 said:

The Brexit party will continue to be disruptive after we exit, because we'll immediately want to negotiate a trade deal... the EU will say fine, pay us the £39Bn and sign up to conditions xyz as a pre-requisite (most likely those already in the WA); then we can do a deal. At which point Farage will throw his toys out of the pram and his little gang of shortsighted idiots will cause chaos again.

There's only one way this will end if people don't look at the bigger picture; and that's a Corbyn government.

Looks like parliament should knuckle down and get the referendum implemented then, don't you think?

[valiant]

Agammemnon said:

Lack of a deal will hurt the EU more than us- they don't need a war & will be likely to let pragmatism overcome their dogma fairly quickly.

Ahh, the ‘they need us more than we need them’ trope.

[Vanden Saab]

ash73 said:

Troubleatmill said:

As I said above - if the Tory party traitors help get us of the EU before 1st Nov there is no need for the Brexit party to exist.

The Brexit party will continue to be disruptive after we exit, because we'll immediately want to negotiate a trade deal... the EU will say fine, pay us the £39Bn and sign up to conditions xyz as a pre-requisite (most likely those already in the WA); then we can do a deal. At which point Farage will throw his toys out of the pram and his little gang of shortsighted idiots will cause chaos again.

There's only one way this will end if people don't look at the bigger picture; and that's a Corbyn government.

This is just weapons grade fkwittery. I cannot imagine how many laws paying for a FTA would break before you even start with WTO rules. All that before Parliament laughed in their faces if they even suggested it.

[Agammemnon]

valiant said:

Ahh, the ‘they need us more than we need them’ trope.

No, more the 'they aren't going to screw themselves over to prove a point' trope.

[confused_buyer]

Troubleatmill said:

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

The only thing the Brexit party will deliver in a GE is a Corbyn/SNP Government and no Brexit. If you fancy that, vote for them.

[Salmonofdoubt]

I know the opposition isn't exactly world class but given how poor the conservative party have been since the referendum (one that was called to stop not worsen their infighting) I'm amazed 46% of people would vote for them.

Still even the terminally stupid are allowed to vote.

[MC Bodge]

Salmonofdoubt said:

Still even the terminally stupid are allowed to vote.

And to post on Pistonheads.

[SpeedMattersNot]

Troubleatmill said:

fatbutt said:

Troubleatmill said:

You seem to be one of our more Brexitly challenged members on the forum.

Both Labour and Conservative MP’s stood on a platform of delivering Brexit.

Somehow I think the Brexit Party will actually deliver.

The current boost Boris is getting will quickly diminish if we are in the EU on Nov 1st

Voting a party in that has only one policy as it's USP is a bizarre way to establish a government. Do you know what the rest of their manifesto is? If you can find out anything about defense, international policy, environmental policy, NHS or pretty much anything you're doing better than me (and their website: https://www.thebrexitparty.org/)

I couldn’t give a flying fk what their other policies are.
Just get us out of Europe. That is all

If I vote Conservative, there will be a never ending procession of traitors like Grieve, Soubry etc

If we are not out by 1st Nov - I will never vote Tory again.


If BP can get us out of Europe then even 4-5 years of fkwittery is acceptable.

I just can't believe this logic...how can this be seen as more important than health, education, pensions, defence...

[amusingduck]

SpeedMattersNot said:

just can't believe this logic...how can this be seen as more important than health, education, pensions, defence...

If they don't feel the need to implement a referendum outcome that they voted in favour of holding by a ratio of 10:1, what makes your favoured manifesto aspects ironclad when it comes time to implement those?

[MC Bodge]

SpeedMattersNot said:

just can't believe this logic...how can this be seen as more important than health, education, pensions, defence...

Fanaticism.

Detached from reality.

[anonymous-user]

MC Bodge said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

just can't believe this logic...how can this be seen as more important than health, education, pensions, defence...

Fanaticism.

Detached from reality.

I think he was the guy saying May should be hung as a traitor on another thread.

[Troubleatmill]

SpeedMattersNot said:

just can't believe this logic...how can this be seen as more important than health, education, pensions, defence...

Get Brexit over the line and lots of time to address all of the above.

[Troubleatmill]

El stovey said:

I think he was the guy saying May should be hung as a traitor on another thread.

How else do you describe someone who destroyed the DEXEU negotiations for the WA that if we signed up we could not unilaterally leave - and as the EU have stated “the UK becomes a colony”

Do I think she tried to sell us up the river? Yes
Should we get Madam Guillotine out ?- It’s just a forum gents. But we can gild the lilly a bit

[bitchstewie]

Traitors again.

Lovely.

Nice to see people have managed to retain a sense of perspective.

[turbobloke]

Troubleatmill said:

SpeedMattersNot said:

just can't believe this logic...how can this be seen as more important than health, education, pensions, defence...

Get Brexit over the line and lots of time to address all of the above.

Indeed it's a non-argument to wave a finger at other policy areas, a diversion pure and simple.

Have 'the above' not been around for decades? What stopped them being sorted out in 13 years of having New Labour saviours in office apart from the usual rank incompetence?

Is there an urgent, important and in particular a recent issue that's paralysing politics in 'the above' and if so what is it and why unlike the other areas of political activity has it been allowed to stagnate even more rapidly than usual.... ..

The other troubling aspect of UK politics atm as indicated by others is that the law of unintended consequences is ready and waiting as long as paralysis lasts.

[anonymous-user]

I will just add that I genuinely think that whatever happens folk will on the whole get through it all.

[Halb]

andy_s said:

Politics has been so dull of late I think the Monster Raving Loony Party as it may liven things up a bit.

they're far too sensible for today's politics

[MC Bodge]

techiedave said:

I will just add that I genuinely think that whatever happens folk will on the whole get through it all.

And the ones that don't?

The madness is that we need not have to "get through it all". There is no upside to it...

[hidetheelephants]

As my SNP MP is a useless waste of space I've voted for the only one likely to shift him, the libdems. A vote for anyone else is wasted in this constituency.

[turbobloke]

MC Bodge said:

techiedave said:

I will just add that I genuinely think that whatever happens folk will on the whole get through it all.

And the ones that don't?

The madness is that we need not have to "get through it all". There is no upside to it...

Except that for the millions who disagree there is an upside (becaise short-term economics wasn't the only consideration for them, and too many economists/prophets don't know what day it is in any case) and these voters may have a profound impact on the next GE if it's called sooner rather than later.