Lets help Boris out, PH solutions to the backstop

[anonymous-user]

Just ignore the fact there is a border there. No border = no back stop.

It is a completely artificial situation but the EU attitude does show that if the backstop was implemented they would never agree to remove it once triggered as some MP's thought would be the case.

[anonymous-user]

Integroo said:

wormus said:

Again not true. Per capita wealth is higher on IOM. U.K. has more people so has more money. IOM has old people, hospitals and sets its own tax rates.

You genuinely think the Isle of Man has equal social problems to the UK? Have you ever been to East London, or the poor parts of Glasgow, or the Scottish Highlands?

You’re truly unbelievable. You have, in your last few posts, pointed out many of the issues the UK undoubtedly suffers from.

You seem to be completely oblivious to the fact that all those issues have worsened during the period we have been in the EU and are very arguably the result, at least in a significant part, of our membership.

If the above wasn’t the case, the referendum would never have gone the way it did.

Wake up FFS.

[GT03ROB]

banjowilly said:

GT03ROB said:

banjowilly said:

Or that Ireland will throw away its very identity to join us?

Yet dilute it's identity in the United States of Europe? It's identity is more of our isles than european.

By the way I'm joking about reunification.... whilst probably a more sensible solution it will never happen.

Setting aside the staggering arrogance of this, name one country that opted to merge with another to avoid a recession.

I would suggest a number of European countries have been prepared to cede sovereignty for financial gain. The facts are established, the only discussion is the price.... to paraphrase Mr Churchill.

[s2art]

ArmaghMan said:

Anyone who is an EU citizen ca travel to ROI as a right.
They can then (if Boris keeps his pledge) cross the border as they see fit and hey presto they're in the UK.
What if they decide that NI is not for them? and decide to move to GB?
Arlene and her crew are determined that there can be no border down the Irish Sea so there can be no checks on the boats from Belfast to Liverpool, Larne to Stranraer etc.
So any EU citizen can gain access to mainland UK.

So what? Nobody is proposing that visas are required. Why bother going through Ireland, cheaper to go directly to the UK.. In other words they will already have access to mainland UK, so what is the problem?

[Halb]

dazwalsh said:

So bojo’s new 30 day limit laid out by merkel to come up with an alternative to the backstop got me thinking. He could do with the collective power of PH to think of ways to get around that pesky backstop with some new ideas, so get your creative juices flowing!

Apart from a bespoke FTA between the ROI and the UK i cant think of anything that breaks the deadlock, and that idea will taste like a dogst sandwich to the EU.

PH members could stand for election for the tory party?

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Blib said:

I know nothing about anything. So, I'm perfectly qualified to report that a good friend of mine works on policy at the British Banking Federation.

Months ago he told me that we should tell the EU to do whatever they want at the border. We should do nothing and offer to do even less.

I've no idea if the above is any help on this thread?

It makes sense to me. What are we or ROI actually worried about coming across that border? We have miles of coast line we don't police so why do we suddenly need to police this?

[vdn]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Blib said:

I know nothing about anything. So, I'm perfectly qualified to report that a good friend of mine works on policy at the British Banking Federation.

Months ago he told me that we should tell the EU to do whatever they want at the border. We should do nothing and offer to do even less.

I've no idea if the above is any help on this thread?

It makes sense to me. What are we or ROI actually worried about coming across that border? We have miles of coast line we don't police so why do we suddenly need to police this?

Brilliant! All solved. Email Boris ASAP.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

I'm sure he reads PH

[anonymous-user]

Reform the Irish Navvies, and pay them to dig a 1 mile wide canal right across the border route, then fill that canal with cream cheese, produced by Irish farmers on both sides of the border.

1) Provides a soft (not hard) border
2) Brings massive emplyment and wealth to the people on both sides



You can all thank me later for my genius...........

[anonymous-user]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

We have miles of coast line we don't police so why do we suddenly need to police this?

I'm going to guess you didn't study history at school?


(hint, Biritans entire past is a result of the fact it is, in fact, an island surrounded by water......)

[AW111]

Max_Torque said:

Reform the Irish Navvies, and pay them to dig a 1 mile wide canal right across the border route, then fill that canal with cream cheese, produced by Irish farmers on both sides of the border.

1) Provides a soft (not hard) border
2) Brings massive emplyment and wealth to the people on both sides



You can all thank me later for my genius...........

Who supplies the chives?
I've got a mate who can get a really good deal on 100 tons of chives... he used to run a ferry company.

[JuanCarlosFandango]

Max_Torque said:

I'm going to guess you didn't study history at school?


(hint, Biritans entire past is a result of the fact it is, in fact, an island surrounded by water......)

Who knew.

[s2art]

I still think the solution is make the entire N.I. a freeport, and then make it law that stuff made or grown from N.I. to the UK isnt taxed or tariffed and vice versa. Do wonders for N.I. economy. So then its the EUs problem as all N.I. would need is a origins document from Eire to N.I. (or anywhere else bar the UK).

[Funky Squirrel]

s2art said:

I still think the solution is make the entire N.I. a freeport, and then make it law that stuff made or grown from N.I. to the UK isnt taxed or tariffed and vice versa. Do wonders for N.I. economy. So then its the EUs problem as all N.I. would need is a origins document from Eire to N.I. (or anywhere else bar the UK).

I think so too

[wisbech]

s2art said:

I still think the solution is make the entire N.I. a freeport, and then make it law that stuff made or grown from N.I. to the UK isnt taxed or tariffed and vice versa. Do wonders for N.I. economy. So then its the EUs problem as all N.I. would need is a origins document from Eire to N.I. (or anywhere else bar the UK).

Problem on regulations and standards is still there though.