Lets help Boris out, PH solutions to the backstop
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Michael Deacon in the telegraph is already on the case (paywalled):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/21/th...
As he noted Bojo appears to have taken the idea seriously with his Irish suggestion
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/21/th...
As he noted Bojo appears to have taken the idea seriously with his Irish suggestion
Deacon said:
Germany, France and our 25 other neighbours should quit the EU, and become part of the UK instead.
At last: a plan to satisfy everyone, no matter which way they voted in 2016. First, it would suit Leavers, because all laws would be made in Westminster, and immigration figures would be slashed (for the simple reason that all Poles, Bulgarians, and anyone else entering Britain from the continent, would now officially be British, and therefore not immigrants). Second, it would suit Remainers, because they would get to live in a vast centralised superstate (the newly expanded UK) boasting its own army (the British one) and a single currency (the pound).
On top of that, the flow of goods could continue exactly as at present, and there’d be no hard border with Ireland. Foolproof. Surely no one could object.
At last: a plan to satisfy everyone, no matter which way they voted in 2016. First, it would suit Leavers, because all laws would be made in Westminster, and immigration figures would be slashed (for the simple reason that all Poles, Bulgarians, and anyone else entering Britain from the continent, would now officially be British, and therefore not immigrants). Second, it would suit Remainers, because they would get to live in a vast centralised superstate (the newly expanded UK) boasting its own army (the British one) and a single currency (the pound).
On top of that, the flow of goods could continue exactly as at present, and there’d be no hard border with Ireland. Foolproof. Surely no one could object.
Ridgemont said:
Michael Deacon in the telegraph is already on the case (paywalled):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/21/th...
As he noted Bojo appears to have taken the idea seriously with his Irish suggestion
Then grant Scotland independence. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/21/th...
As he noted Bojo appears to have taken the idea seriously with his Irish suggestion
Deacon said:
Germany, France and our 25 other neighbours should quit the EU, and become part of the UK instead.
At last: a plan to satisfy everyone, no matter which way they voted in 2016. First, it would suit Leavers, because all laws would be made in Westminster, and immigration figures would be slashed (for the simple reason that all Poles, Bulgarians, and anyone else entering Britain from the continent, would now officially be British, and therefore not immigrants). Second, it would suit Remainers, because they would get to live in a vast centralised superstate (the newly expanded UK) boasting its own army (the British one) and a single currency (the pound).
On top of that, the flow of goods could continue exactly as at present, and there’d be no hard border with Ireland. Foolproof. Surely no one could object.
At last: a plan to satisfy everyone, no matter which way they voted in 2016. First, it would suit Leavers, because all laws would be made in Westminster, and immigration figures would be slashed (for the simple reason that all Poles, Bulgarians, and anyone else entering Britain from the continent, would now officially be British, and therefore not immigrants). Second, it would suit Remainers, because they would get to live in a vast centralised superstate (the newly expanded UK) boasting its own army (the British one) and a single currency (the pound).
On top of that, the flow of goods could continue exactly as at present, and there’d be no hard border with Ireland. Foolproof. Surely no one could object.
Ridgemont said:
Michael Deacon in the telegraph is already on the case (paywalled):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/21/th...
As he noted Bojo appears to have taken the idea seriously with his Irish suggestion
And leave Belgium with the Euro and EU debts https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/21/th...
As he noted Bojo appears to have taken the idea seriously with his Irish suggestion
Deacon said:
Germany, France and our 25 other neighbours should quit the EU, and become part of the UK instead.
At last: a plan to satisfy everyone, no matter which way they voted in 2016. First, it would suit Leavers, because all laws would be made in Westminster, and immigration figures would be slashed (for the simple reason that all Poles, Bulgarians, and anyone else entering Britain from the continent, would now officially be British, and therefore not immigrants). Second, it would suit Remainers, because they would get to live in a vast centralised superstate (the newly expanded UK) boasting its own army (the British one) and a single currency (the pound).
On top of that, the flow of goods could continue exactly as at present, and there’d be no hard border with Ireland. Foolproof. Surely no one could object.
At last: a plan to satisfy everyone, no matter which way they voted in 2016. First, it would suit Leavers, because all laws would be made in Westminster, and immigration figures would be slashed (for the simple reason that all Poles, Bulgarians, and anyone else entering Britain from the continent, would now officially be British, and therefore not immigrants). Second, it would suit Remainers, because they would get to live in a vast centralised superstate (the newly expanded UK) boasting its own army (the British one) and a single currency (the pound).
On top of that, the flow of goods could continue exactly as at present, and there’d be no hard border with Ireland. Foolproof. Surely no one could object.
k right off and (ii) go for the a border in the Irish Sea option. Everyone is a winner, except the DUP, but you've already dealt with that in (i)Surely as other have suggested it's easy.
We, the UK, promise not to have a hard border with customs checks. We can do that post brexit as we make our own rules.
Then, the EU do the same, they can do that because they make their own rules.
They're only making it hard because they want to. Bureaucrats... got to love 'em.
We, the UK, promise not to have a hard border with customs checks. We can do that post brexit as we make our own rules.
Then, the EU do the same, they can do that because they make their own rules.
They're only making it hard because they want to. Bureaucrats... got to love 'em.
Something like 26% of ROI are E.U. sceptics. Those who aren’t obviously like the security and historic grants given to businesses to relocate there. I wonder if they will think differently when the Eurozone falls into deeper recession when we leave. It’s not exactly in rude health. Politically probably a non starter to ask ROI to join the U.K. and leave with us.
wormus said:
Something like 26% of ROI are E.U. sceptics. Those who aren’t obviously like the security and historic grants given to businesses to relocate there. I wonder if they will think differently when the Eurozone falls into deeper recession when we leave. It’s not exactly in rude health. Politically probably a non starter to ask ROI to join the U.K. and leave with us.
Do you genuinely believe that we will leave, the Eurozone will fall into a deep recession and everything will be rosy here in the UK? Brave Fart said:
1) employ an adequate number of inspectors to visit farms and abbatoirs to ensure food and animals meet EU spec. The island isn't that big a place so you don't need checks at the border.
2) trusted trader scheme linked to tax and VAT records to evidence transactions at the point of invoicing. Tax incentives for traders to join such a scheme.
3) a joint Republic / UK customs unit that would have powers to visit EU or UK businesses to ensure compliance.
4) draft a declaration in which the EU declare that this is a special situation due to the Good Friday agreement and that the absence of a physical border does not form a precedent for other EU nations.
And perhaps force Merkel, Varadkar or whoever to state who, exactly, would erect a border? The UK won't, so who will?
For (1) - isn’t this saying NI will follow EU specifications, not U.K.? So have the customs/ regulation border in the Irish Sea (backstop V1, before May realised that the DUP wouldn’t agree)2) trusted trader scheme linked to tax and VAT records to evidence transactions at the point of invoicing. Tax incentives for traders to join such a scheme.
3) a joint Republic / UK customs unit that would have powers to visit EU or UK businesses to ensure compliance.
4) draft a declaration in which the EU declare that this is a special situation due to the Good Friday agreement and that the absence of a physical border does not form a precedent for other EU nations.
And perhaps force Merkel, Varadkar or whoever to state who, exactly, would erect a border? The UK won't, so who will?
Integroo said:
wormus said:
Something like 26% of ROI are E.U. sceptics. Those who aren’t obviously like the security and historic grants given to businesses to relocate there. I wonder if they will think differently when the Eurozone falls into deeper recession when we leave. It’s not exactly in rude health. Politically probably a non starter to ask ROI to join the U.K. and leave with us.
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