80 years ago today - Britain Declares War on Germany

80 years ago today - Britain Declares War on Germany

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CambsBill

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179 months

Sunday 24th May 2020
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Report from 24th May 1940. Having been in Ploegsteert only two days previously, watching it being "wiped out" from Messines.


CambsBill

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Monday 25th May 2020
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25th May 1940

No comms, German fire coming in from all directions and saboteurs adding to the confusion.


Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Monday 25th May 2020
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Nearly missed this. BBC 2 Bletchley park time watch special. Should on catchup.

About Lorenz not enigma.

Edited by Zirconia on Monday 25th May 20:14

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Operation Dynamo begins today.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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At what point in the evacuation were the little boats called in?

Zirconia

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285 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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I thought it was from the start? Not read up a lot on this, another topic I need to read on.

Edit. I do know that French and Belgium forces also fought a terrible rear guard action, I believe Foreign Legion as well as part of those French forces.

Edited by Zirconia on Tuesday 26th May 08:56

Halmyre

11,219 posts

140 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Zirconia said:
Nearly missed this. BBC 2 Bletchley park time watch special. Should on catchup.

About Lorenz not enigma.

Edited by Zirconia on Monday 25th May 20:14
An old one but a good one. Cracking Lorenz was an astonishing feat. I've got one of the books mentioned in the programme and a lot of the theory behind cracking it is frankly incomprehensible.

Zirconia

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285 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Halmyre said:
An old one but a good one. Cracking Lorenz was an astonishing feat. I've got one of the books mentioned in the programme and a lot of the theory behind cracking it is frankly incomprehensible.
Yeah, bloke sat down with a bit of paper and a pencil and cracked the machine never seen because one fella made a mistake. That mistake I think, not even realised by that person at that time? Wonder if he ever found out or had an inkling (the German that is).

I have a few books to get on Bletchley as a whole, but one Enigma book I have and really we need to thank the Poles for that one, we got the toe in the door because of their work.

Zirconia

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285 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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CambsBill

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179 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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As has been noted, today was the start of the actual evacuation. My grandfather was still in Messines, although it turned out he shouldn't have been, then got injured when the car he was in collided with a tank (he was the adjutant). More confusion, many vehicles being destroyed in the retreat, the only news being gleaned from the BBC. "Our lot was not a happy one . . ."

eta - Yes, I think page 20 does come before page 19. I suspect he numbered the pages after he typed them all up and got those two in the wrong order.









Edited by CambsBill on Tuesday 26th May 13:58

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Eric Mc said:
At what point in the evacuation were the little boats called in?
Boats? Boats?

I assume you mean the little ships?

wink

I believe they were called for on the 27th of May.


DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
At what point in the evacuation were the little boats called in?
Boats? Boats?

I assume you mean the little ships?

wink

I believe they were called for on the 27th of May.
Whatever floats your boat.

Eric Mc

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266 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Ayahuasca said:
Boats? Boats?

I assume you mean the little ships?

wink

I believe they were called for on the 27th of May.
When is a boat not a boat?

And when is a boat a ship?

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Ayahuasca said:
Boats? Boats?

I assume you mean the little ships?

wink

I believe they were called for on the 27th of May.
When is a boat not a boat?

And when is a boat a ship?
You can put a boat on a ship but you cannot put a ship on a boat.

I think by common convention the famous Dunkirk watercraft of limited size are known as little ships.

Regardless of what they were called they became another part of the British National Story some of whose other chapters are King Arthur, Boudicca, Agincourt, the Spanish Armada, Trafalgar and Waterloo, all of which (maybe with the exception of Trafalgar) have a bit of myth woven into the facts.

Darth Paul

1,652 posts

219 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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Eric Mc said:
Ayahuasca said:
Boats? Boats?

I assume you mean the little ships?

wink

I believe they were called for on the 27th of May.
When is a boat not a boat?

And when is a boat a ship?
Always remember a family story about my grandad, chief petty officer during WW2. If you ever called a ship a boat he’d say in a thick geordie accent, “that’s not a boat it’s a ship. You put gravy in a boat!”

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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BBC 2 showing a program on the evacuation now. Think it is a repeat from some years ago?

Ayahuasca

27,427 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th May 2020
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80 years ago today.

Spitfire N3200 flown by Geoffrey Stephenson lands on the beach at Dunkirk. Shown (sort of) in the movie Dunkirk.





And restored.


CambsBill

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179 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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Grandad's report from 80 years ago today. I love the comment about the Belgian copper - the guy must have been either incurably stupid or had balls of steel to try and disarm an army unit by himself biggrin




Halmyre

11,219 posts

140 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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Ayahuasca said:
Eric Mc said:
Ayahuasca said:
Boats? Boats?

I assume you mean the little ships?

wink

I believe they were called for on the 27th of May.
When is a boat not a boat?

And when is a boat a ship?
You can put a boat on a ship but you cannot put a ship on a boat.

I think by common convention the famous Dunkirk watercraft of limited size are known as little ships.

Regardless of what they were called they became another part of the British National Story some of whose other chapters are King Arthur, Boudicca, Agincourt, the Spanish Armada, Trafalgar and Waterloo, all of which (maybe with the exception of Trafalgar) have a bit of myth woven into the facts.
Isn't a submarine a boat, according to the Yanks? Or vice-versa.

Zirconia

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 27th May 2020
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Interesting comment on that policeman , anecdotal and I was around 15 at the time (me listening to the tale that is).

nicked a boat from a fishing village, after getting to Dunkirk and thinking sod this, whilst rowing out the Belgians all came out shooting (shot guns n stuff), they assumed to give the appearance of doing something and the Germans were not far away if not in the village perimeter. Held no malice towards them and they did get picked up by a destroyer not far from a mine field.

Which for years had me pondering how come. Until this.
https://twitter.com/Sweepers3945/status/1265538422...