Poll: Election 2019
Total Members Polled: 1601
Discussion
Zirconia said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: That is literally ridiculous if that's being claimed to be an assault.
Yarp. I have had the same done to me and done the same on numerous occasions, all by accident and the same result as that fella. Shrugged it off and carried on.That's literally an "assault" shown to be nothing of the sort.
Don't get me wrong the heckling is unpleasant but when you have people saying he was "hit" that kind of thing can get people locked up.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: As much as people deride social media incidents like that do show the immense good that it can do.
That's literally an "assault" shown to be nothing of the sort.
Don't get me wrong the heckling is unpleasant but when you have people saying he was "hit" that kind of thing can get people locked up.
Problem is now there is probably a massive doxing attempt going on. I expect that fella will get some grief and not from plod.That's literally an "assault" shown to be nothing of the sort.
Don't get me wrong the heckling is unpleasant but when you have people saying he was "hit" that kind of thing can get people locked up.
JuanCarlosFandango said:
A sadistic little part of me would love to be testing the fire alarms or something in the BBC or the Guardian offices on Friday morning.
The shock, despair and sheer indignation in the event of a convincing Tory win would be hilarious.
The shock, despair and sheer indignation in the event of a convincing Tory win would be hilarious.
I wonder if we will see tears of despair like the anchors on CNN when they realised Hillary had lost. 
What I can see here is the conservatives making the same mistake as in 2017. By focusing almost entirely on one thing (attacking Corbyn in 2017 and Brexit this time around), they've totally failed to show any empathy for people who have other issues to worry about.
People have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
People have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
FiF said:
A long read from the New York magazine about Boris, fascinating read and balanced. Is Boris one of the only Conservatives in the West to have an answer for populism?
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/12/boris-j...
"What Boris is offering as an alternative is a Tory social democracy rooted in national pride and delivered with a spoonful of humor and entertainment. In some ways, his personality is part of the formula. His plummy voice and silly hair and constant jokes are deeply, even reassuringly, British even as demographic change has made Britishness seem fragile. And if you still believe in the nation-state, in liberal democracy, and have qualms about the unintended consequences of neoliberal economics, it’s about as decent a conservative political blend as is on offer in the West. It makes the GOP look deranged by contrast."
Interesting article and balanced (unlike some of the American coverage). http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/12/boris-j...
"What Boris is offering as an alternative is a Tory social democracy rooted in national pride and delivered with a spoonful of humor and entertainment. In some ways, his personality is part of the formula. His plummy voice and silly hair and constant jokes are deeply, even reassuringly, British even as demographic change has made Britishness seem fragile. And if you still believe in the nation-state, in liberal democracy, and have qualms about the unintended consequences of neoliberal economics, it’s about as decent a conservative political blend as is on offer in the West. It makes the GOP look deranged by contrast."
Leithen said:
turbobloke said:
bhstewie said:
Coached by two-jabs Presclot vid?!hstewie said:
JustALooseScrew said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
A sadistic little part of me would love to be testing the fire alarms or something in the BBC or the Guardian offices on Friday morning.
The shock, despair and sheer indignation in the event of a convincing Tory win would be hilarious.
The shock, despair and sheer indignation in the event of a convincing Tory win would be hilarious.
I wonder if we will see tears of despair like the anchors on CNN when they realised Hillary had lost. https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1204043930100281...
Zirconia said:
JustALooseScrew said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
A sadistic little part of me would love to be testing the fire alarms or something in the BBC or the Guardian offices on Friday morning.
The shock, despair and sheer indignation in the event of a convincing Tory win would be hilarious.
The shock, despair and sheer indignation in the event of a convincing Tory win would be hilarious.
I wonder if we will see tears of despair like the anchors on CNN when they realised Hillary had lost. https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1204043930100281...
Saved by Attenborough and Wimbledon.
janesmith1950 said:
What I can see here is the conservatives making the same mistake as in 2017. By focusing almost entirely on one thing (attacking Corbyn in 2017 and Brexit this time around), they've totally failed to show any empathy for people who have other issues to worry about.
People have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
That fPeople have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
king awful video from earlier is the perfect demonstration of this.As Peston points out on Twitter Johnson's refusal to look at the picture of a kid lying on a hospital floor is him saying "I don't want to own this".
There's no empathy there to show.
Zirconia said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: That is literally ridiculous if that's being claimed to be an assault.
Yarp. I have had the same done to me and done the same on numerous occasions, all by accident and the same result as that fella. Shrugged it off and carried on.Reminds me of once in the office was having an animated arm waving discussion when the office glamourpuss walked into my outstretched arm resulting in the inadvertent copping a feel of the generous and shapely chest. She was remarkably understanding about things as it was clearly an accidental encounter, but I still felt a right tit.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:janesmith1950 said:
What I can see here is the conservatives making the same mistake as in 2017. By focusing almost entirely on one thing (attacking Corbyn in 2017 and Brexit this time around), they've totally failed to show any empathy for people who have other issues to worry about.
People have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
That fPeople have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
king awful video from earlier is the perfect demonstration of this.As Peston points out on Twitter Johnson's refusal to look at the picture of a kid lying on a hospital floor is him saying "I don't want to own this".
There's no empathy there to show.
And yet some blindly defend the utter sheister Boris “because Corbyn” or “because Brexit”.
Just remarkable.
A Winner Is You said:
KingNothing said:
This is the North East, Labour owns it.
Perhaps not anymore now they've turned their backs on leave voters. The big question will be, and I will admit for the first time in my life I have thought the same, is how many people will question the point of voting as it has been proven that it doesn't matter.Helicopter123 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:janesmith1950 said:
What I can see here is the conservatives making the same mistake as in 2017. By focusing almost entirely on one thing (attacking Corbyn in 2017 and Brexit this time around), they've totally failed to show any empathy for people who have other issues to worry about.
People have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
That fPeople have everyday concerns about all the usual things, and all Boris can do is talk about his 'oven ready' POS deal. As a topic it's not the only show in town and people are left believing the conservatives don't care about people.
There are huge swathes of people exasperated because they don't see anyone credible to vote for. They do say the electorate gets the government it deserves. Looks like it's never truer than now.
king awful video from earlier is the perfect demonstration of this.As Peston points out on Twitter Johnson's refusal to look at the picture of a kid lying on a hospital floor is him saying "I don't want to own this".
There's no empathy there to show.
And yet some blindly defend the utter sheister Boris “because Corbyn” or “because Brexit”.
Just remarkable.
I feel the ban hammer aiming at me again as you get offended again, aww bless.
Use of SM = Brain dead. That includes members of parliament but mostly members of the public. Gullible folk. Bless
Edited by Allanv on Monday 9th December 18:52
hutchst said:
Voting Conservative isn't voting for Boris, unless you live in Uxbridge.
We dont have an executive President in the UK, our Prime Minister has NO executive power under our constitution. He gets one vote in the commons, same as every other MP, and he chairs cabinet meetings. That's it.
THe PM is one of the most able executive positions in the world, the PM appoints the cabinet and can direct all aspects of government and declare war (something BUsh couldn't do, but BLair could, though he decided not to and instead went to parliament something that Blair didn't have to do, perversely.) The UK PM has more power at home than the US president does.We dont have an executive President in the UK, our Prime Minister has NO executive power under our constitution. He gets one vote in the commons, same as every other MP, and he chairs cabinet meetings. That's it.
snuffy said:
Mr Curtice has become a tad overexposed. And by "tad" I mean "completely". He's been saying the same thing for weeks now "Well, the Conservatives are well in front in the polls so they will most likely win. However, if loads of people actually vote for another party then things could turn out very differently".
He's now just picking all options so he can claim he got his prediction correct.
Or, he's just doing what he has always done and tells it how it is by sticking to facts and numbers. He's not the 'I told ya!' sort.He's now just picking all options so he can claim he got his prediction correct.
Zirconia said:
Slightly related. Rumours are that they are going to gun for the BBC licence when they get in. That should chime well for people in these parts.
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1204043930100281...
Interesting, 15 years ago I was happy to pay the BBC fee because of Radio 4 and some of the excellent comedy that was coming out of BBC 2.https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1204043930100281...
I'm not in a position to pay the BBC anything any more living out side of the UK but Naga Munchetty is an absolute deal breaker for me. Quite how anyone thinks she is VFM at the BBC is beyond me and I'm surprised there haven't been mass protests.
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