Poll: Election 2019
Total Members Polled: 1601
Discussion
Nickgnome said:
TheRealNoNeedy said:
Nickgnome said:
I’ve never understood why anyone is so anti free movement.
Why is having a family from Paris or Prague move in next door any difference from a family from Pontypridd?
Do you have locks on your exterior doors?Why is having a family from Paris or Prague move in next door any difference from a family from Pontypridd?
Earthdweller said:
catweasle said:
Nickgnome said:
I’ve lived in many parts of the UK but for most of my working life in and around London, but a short spell in the USA as well.
Why do you ask?
question too difficult for you?Why do you ask?
Nick ( he will tell you ) is one of the UK’s top businessmen, ( now retired) lives on Sandbanks when not cruising in his yacht or at his French chateau
hth
TheRealNoNeedy said:
Earthdweller said:
catweasle said:
Nickgnome said:
I’ve lived in many parts of the UK but for most of my working life in and around London, but a short spell in the USA as well.
Why do you ask?
question too difficult for you?Why do you ask?
Nick ( he will tell you ) is one of the UK’s top businessmen, ( now retired) lives on Sandbanks when not cruising in his yacht or at his French chateau
hth
catweasle said:
Nickgnome said:
On the beach actually. You should be able to work out the rest.
i can understand you reticence to answer after all only a fool tells all to strangers on the internetWhy would I worry about a few people on the internet?
TheRealNoNeedy said:
why would you need insurance? surely it is only ever doctors and nurses that will enter, never anybody you might not want
I don’t have need so never been visited by either. Rude health I think the expression is.Personally I think it would be really stupid not to have insurance if only for third party liabilities. Fire is always a small risk too.
Enough off topic.
DeepEnd said:
motco said:
Is it not the additional numbers of people rather than their origins? It is for me anyway. Everywhere in the south-east is being developed to the point where the quality of life is deteriorating to an unacceptable degree. This is, of course, driven largely by the swelling population. In the 1970s Britain's population numbers were stable but now the figures grow inexorably mainly because of New Labour's open door policy superimposed on the EU free movement. I take people as I find them but I am not so fond of my fellow animal that I want to constantly be cheek-by-jowl with them whoever they are.
That's a bit of a myth.The growth in the population due to immigration is not unlike historic birthrates - birthrates that have domestically fallen.
A growing population increases the economy and ability to pay for growing numbers of old people.
It is about their origins if its Nigel, isn't it? He didn't want Romanians next door at all, yet has a German wife.
Bolton flats blaze
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-5...
Looks like another cladding relating issue, although thankfully no deaths.
You might have hoped a responsible government would have sorted this by now?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-5...
Looks like another cladding relating issue, although thankfully no deaths.
You might have hoped a responsible government would have sorted this by now?
Nickgnome said:
TheRealNoNeedy said:
why would you need insurance? surely it is only ever doctors and nurses that will enter, never anybody you might not want
I don’t have need so never been visited by either. Rude health I think the expression is.Personally I think it would be really stupid not to have insurance if only for third party liabilities. Fire is always a small risk too.
Enough off topic.
98elise said:
Until recently migration was around 300k per year, which is about the population of Coventry. We're not building a new Coventry every year.
Or putting it another way 100 - 150k homes across the UK so pretty insignificant, being that less than 6% of the UK is developed. The NHS alone has a 100,000 unfilled vacancies. Of course if we do not allow those people in then we can just accept our services will deteriorate and areas of agriculture will fail. That would be fun to watch.
Edited by Nickgnome on Saturday 16th November 16:42
Helicopter123 said:
Bolton flats blaze
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-5...
Looks like another cladding relating issue, although thankfully no deaths.
You might have hoped a responsible government would have sorted this by now?
Let’s not jump to conclusions. Private development so we should await fire officers report. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-5...
Looks like another cladding relating issue, although thankfully no deaths.
You might have hoped a responsible government would have sorted this by now?
It is interesting that many Unis are now developing student accommodation sometimes as JVs. It a good little money earner.
vonuber said:
crankedup said:
Try living in Southern France !
Immigrant complaining about immigrants?The French people detest the English, they also absolutely detest the Arab population living nearby in their own ‘exclusive’ area. Racist in the extreme.
My friends emigrated to S.France 30+ years ago, their two sons and daughter have all married French partners. Very decent people all have their own off spring now. We spend a fair amount of our time with them all.
motco said:
If it were not for the numbers of Britons leaving the UK the population growth would be even greater. The figures normally published are 'net' which reduces the figure by the numbers emigrating. The alternative? One alternative alone is insufficient but a more equal distribution of population away from the Home Counties (and, I daresay, other conurbations) is a good start. What happened to the recent New Towns policy? Scotland is on record this weekend as saying immigration is vital to their prosperity...
So forced relocations. Really? The issue has always been that the young with ambition tend to move to large and successful cities. That depletes talent in some regions and distorts the age demographic.
Surely it must be for the regions to do their own bit to make themselves more attractive and create their own inward investment.
If you of the mindset that we should not be subsidising poorer areas of the Eu then we should apply the same logic to the UK. I look at it differently btw.
Nickgnome said:
98elise said:
Until recently migration was around 300k per year, which is about the population of Coventry. We're not building a new Coventry every year.
Or putting it another way 100 - 150k homes across the UK so pretty insignificant, being that less than 6% of the UK is developed. The NHS alone has a 100,000 unfilled vacancies. Of course if we do not allow those people in then we can just accept our services will deteriorate and areas of agriculture will fail. That would be fun to watch.
Edited by Nickgnome on Saturday 16th November 16:42
Agi’ will not fail, mechanisation and tech’ are making inroads into the sector. Human hands requirement within the industry is falling. For example strawberry picking by robot is in an advanced
stage and will soon be available for general use. Strawberries are one of the most difficult fruits to pick.
You may need to find an alternative industry for your ‘fun to watch’.
Nickgnome said:
If you of the mindset that we should not be subsidising poorer areas of the Eu then we should apply the same logic to the UK.
Based on what? The above reasoning by assertion?How did we find ourselves in the frame for funding empty new towns, unused airports and barely used new highways in Spain. for example? How come this is our responsibility?
Fortunately it looks to be ending soon and not before time; all being well Germany can assuage its own euroguilt at its own expense in the near future.
crankedup said:
vonuber said:
crankedup said:
Try living in Southern France !
Immigrant complaining about immigrants?The French people detest the English, they also absolutely detest the Arab population living nearby in their own ‘exclusive’ area. Racist in the extreme.
My friends emigrated to S.France 30+ years ago, their two sons and daughter have all married French partners. Very decent people all have their own off spring now. We spend a fair amount of our time with them all.
Could it just be that those racist French are of exactly the same type as the similarly racist English, Welsh or Scottish.
Small minded insular, insecure and possibly of lower intelligence. The commonality is they all feel the need to see immigrants as ‘other’ and the cause of any issues they may have.
They will be found in every country and perfect for some far right wing political types.
Helicopter123 said:
Bolton flats blaze
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-5...
Looks like another cladding relating issue, although thankfully no deaths.
You might have hoped a responsible government would have sorted this by now?
What exactly should a "responsible government" have done "by now"?https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-5...
Looks like another cladding relating issue, although thankfully no deaths.
You might have hoped a responsible government would have sorted this by now?
Banned combustion?
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