Election 2019

[TheRealNoNeedy]

bhstewie said:

A Winner Is You said:

Corbyn on the other hand has been endorsed by the UK Communist Party, the ex leader of the kkk, Nick Griffin, the Daily Stormer, the IRA and Hamas amongst others.

Equally detestable and good reasons why Corbyn is unfit for office.

I don't get why there always has to be an equivalence.

There isn't an equivalence, the two are not the same

[bitchstewie]

TheRealNoNeedy said:

There isn't an equivalence, the two are not the same

Wrong choice of words then.

You point something out and rather than simply say "I'm fine with that" or "I don't agree with that" it immediately has to be "Ah but what about so and so".

Pointing out some of the people endorsing Boris doesn't mean I have any time for Corbyn.

[amusingduck]

bhstewie said:

A Winner Is You said:

Corbyn on the other hand has been endorsed by the UK Communist Party, the ex leader of the kkk, Nick Griffin, the Daily Stormer, the IRA and Hamas amongst others.

Equally detestable and good reasons why Corbyn is unfit for office.

I don't get why there always has to be an equivalence.

Because you make your arguments as though you're criticising behaviour in general, when you're actually only interested of criticising the behaviour of people whose opinions you disagree with?

[TheRealNoNeedy]

bhstewie said:

TheRealNoNeedy said:

There isn't an equivalence, the two are not the same

Wrong choice of words then.

You point something out and rather than simply say "I'm fine with that" or "I don't agree with that" it immediately has to be "Ah but what about so and so".

Pointing out some of the people endorsing Boris doesn't mean I have any time for Corbyn.

I'm fine with what?

Boris has not asked for tommies endorsement unlike Corbyn who has courted any group that hates Britain for years

[turbobloke]

TheRealNoNeedy said:

bhstewie said:

TheRealNoNeedy said:

There isn't an equivalence, the two are not the same

Wrong choice of words then.

You point something out and rather than simply say "I'm fine with that" or "I don't agree with that" it immediately has to be "Ah but what about so and so".

Pointing out some of the people endorsing Boris doesn't mean I have any time for Corbyn.

I'm fine with what?

Boris has not asked for tommies endorsement unlike Corbyn who has courted any group that hates Britain for years

As per earlier posts, it's desperate stuff to try to smear Boris with other people's unsolicited words.

Render unto Boris that which is Boris's.

If somebody doesn't want Boris as PM then apart from voting accordingly there's a harvest out there planted by Boris, however like other smears (here and in other cases) it won't help.

[turbobloke]

From the hallowed BBC. Like the rest, it's not perfect, but what else is there prior to the result.

[stevesuk]

turbobloke said:

From the hallowed BBC. Like the rest, it's not perfect, but what else is there prior to the result.

Quite surprised that the LDs are doing so badly in the polls. They're pretty much the only party who have said they want to reverse Brexit, and we're led to believe that 50% of the electorate want that to happen - so why do only 16% intend to vote for them? Perhaps given the choice between Jo Swinson as PM, or hard Brexit - they've picked the safer option

[ZeroGroundZero]

stevesuk said:

Quite surprised that the LDs are doing so badly in the polls. They're pretty much the only party who have said they want to reverse Brexit, and we're led to believe that 50% of the electorate want that to happen.....

I would hope that it is because the British public recognise that the LibDems are openly against our traditional democracy - and if they were to be allowed to undermine the sovereignty of the public as they have said they want to, it would be a very slippery slope from there onwards.

[Zirconia]

Have the Libdems ever polled high? They have never been on my list of possibles pre Brexit.

[Bullett]

Or maybe , despite the retoric, the people don't actually want to overturn the result and regardless of how they voted in the ref they see that the only person/party who is going to get us past the post (one way or another) is BJ?

[Vanden Saab]

ZeroGroundZero said:

stevesuk said:

Quite surprised that the LDs are doing so badly in the polls. They're pretty much the only party who have said they want to reverse Brexit, and we're led to believe that 50% of the electorate want that to happen.....

I would hope that it is because the British public recognise that the LibDems are openly against our traditional democracy - and if they were to be allowed to undermine the sovereignty of the public as they have said they want to, it would be a very slippery slope from there onwards.

But but but brexit was never about democracy. We know this as remainers have been telling us this for over 3 years...

[ChevyChase77]

I don't think I could ever vote for Jo Swinson's Lib Dems when they've basically gone, "I know, if we become the only staunch remain party and say we'll revoke article 50, we'll get a load more votes than we otherwise would".

Now I know it gives the voter choice, but don't call yourself 'democrats'.

[djc206]

stevesuk said:

Quite surprised that the LDs are doing so badly in the polls. They're pretty much the only party who have said they want to reverse Brexit, and we're led to believe that 50% of the electorate want that to happen - so why do only 16% intend to vote for them? Perhaps given the choice between Jo Swinson as PM, or hard Brexit - they've picked the safer option

I’m sure ~50% do but most of us have bigger worries than Brexit. I only know one person voting a particular way because of Brexit, everyone else is fed up of it and wants it to fk off either way.

[Tankrizzo]

I'm surprised that so many are considering voting LibDem when there's pretty much bugger all in their policies apart from "cAnCeL bReXiT" and "We're not the Tories or Labour".

What else do they stand for? I mean, they're just Reverse Brexit Party at the moment.

[Randy Winkman]

stevesuk said:

turbobloke said:

From the hallowed BBC. Like the rest, it's not perfect, but what else is there prior to the result.

Quite surprised that the LDs are doing so badly in the polls. They're pretty much the only party who have said they want to reverse Brexit, and we're led to believe that 50% of the electorate want that to happen - so why do only 16% intend to vote for them? Perhaps given the choice between Jo Swinson as PM, or hard Brexit - they've picked the safer option

It's not a Brexit vote though. It's a general election where I reckon most people simply pick between the 2 parties they think might win.

[bitchstewie]

Tankrizzo said:

I'm surprised that so many are considering voting LibDem when there's pretty much bugger all in their policies apart from "cAnCeL bReXiT" and "We're not the Tories or Labour".

What else do they stand for? I mean, they're just Reverse Brexit Party at the moment.

They aren't Johnson or Corbyn who are both unfit for office.

People will justify a vote for Boris because "he isn't Corbyn". Same principle.

Personally the more I see and hear from Jo Swinson the more it turns me against them.

[stevesuk]

Tankrizzo said:

I'm surprised that so many are considering voting LibDem when there's pretty much bugger all in their policies apart from "cAnCeL bReXiT" and "We're not the Tories or Labour".

Yes - their local candidate for our constituency lives in my road, and is very popular locally. However, since I've lived here - all the literature I've ever had shoved through the door from them at election time, simply focuses on what everyone else is doing wrong - and never about what they plan to do themselves. E.g. "Labour can't win here" .. "Evil Tory cuts" etc.

[anonymous-user]

Tankrizzo said:

I'm surprised that so many are considering voting LibDem when there's pretty much bugger all in their policies apart from "cAnCeL bReXiT" and "We're not the Tories or Labour".

What else do they stand for? I mean, they're just Reverse Brexit Party at the moment.

Have many parties actually released their manifestos yet?

Labour’s seems to be changing all the time and they’re still arguing about freedom of movement. The conservatives have released some info about points based immigration but won’t set targets. They’ve also largely been in charge of immigration for the last 9 years but have failed to control it properly.

The attraction of the libdems apart from cancelling brexit is that they’re a centrist (not obviously damaging) alternative to labour and the conservatives.

The kind of people that will vote libdem are likely the sort that are floating voters not aligned to a particular party and will make a decision nearer the time or moderate Tory voters wanting to cancel brexit.

They’re obviously not going to get anywhere near as many votes as the two main parties though.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 18th November 09:34

[Digga]

bhstewie said:

Tankrizzo said:

I'm surprised that so many are considering voting LibDem when there's pretty much bugger all in their policies apart from "cAnCeL bReXiT" and "We're not the Tories or Labour".

What else do they stand for? I mean, they're just Reverse Brexit Party at the moment.

They aren't Johnson or Corbyn who are both unfit for office.

People will justify a vote for Boris because "he isn't Corbyn". Same principle.

Personally the more I see and hear from Jo Swinson the more it turns me against them.

So in summary, to paraphrase you:

We have Johnson, Corbyn and Swinson, who are all unfit for office.

Is there a good Monster Raving Loony candidate?

[bitchstewie]

Digga said:

So in summary, to paraphrase you:

We have Johnson, Corbyn and Swinson, who are all unfit for office.

Is there a good Monster Raving Loony candidate?

Not what I said is it?

I said turning me against them. I still wouldn't put Jo Swinson remotely in the same category as Johnson and Corbyn regards being fundamentally fit for office.