Poll: Election 2019
Total Members Polled: 1601
Discussion
Jimboka said:
MX5Biologist said:
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If anything, Iain Duncan Smith is the example of someone who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. He father was a used car salesman turned RAF fighter ace. Went straight into the army from school. Attended Secondary Modern for 4 years; when I was young, the secondary moderns were where you went if you couldn't get into Grammar School or a Comprehensive. Remarkably, like Jim Callahagn, never completed a university degree, though he claims to have signed up for some courses in Italy. Possibly the lack of a higher education affected him in his later career.
Which just goes to prove that he wasn’t very intelligent. He failed from an early age, not as bright as his peers.If anything, Iain Duncan Smith is the example of someone who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. He father was a used car salesman turned RAF fighter ace. Went straight into the army from school. Attended Secondary Modern for 4 years; when I was young, the secondary moderns were where you went if you couldn't get into Grammar School or a Comprehensive. Remarkably, like Jim Callahagn, never completed a university degree, though he claims to have signed up for some courses in Italy. Possibly the lack of a higher education affected him in his later career.
No wonder that his ideas now are pretty dumb ..
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
crankedup said:
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
PRTVR said:
The other day I was chatting to a few friends who are normally conservative voters who were saying they were struggling with whom to vote for, they had decided on lib Dems due to their remain position, until I pointed out that if enough people did that we could end up with a labour government by default, the look on their faces was a picture. 
Well Labour are offering another referendum so maybe voting for Lib Dems isn’t as stupid as you think if you want to remain in the EU.If options are available, and feelings are so high - people still not accepting the referendum result more than three years on due to the awesomeness of the EU - then why not consider all of them to scratch the itch. If options aren't available then it may prove necessary to 'move on, by remaining'.....in the UK.
You will struggle to be able to offer acceptable solutions to the disaffected remain camp. From my pov it is the perfect answer to their perceived problem and angst. As you mention a Member Country in the sun that is romping ahead of the U.K. in Social and financial terms, remainers heaven I would have thought.
My vote was to Leave, but if Remain had won the day, it would have been time to make another cup of tea. As the vote went the way of Leave, I expected and still expect the UK to leave the EU.
Europe is of course a completely different issue to the EU political construct. Some years ago I had a place in Spain mainly as a winter bolthole, and I've spent a lot of time in Paris which is my favourite city by a long way.
When things started going udders skyward for the PIIGS it was time to remain in the UK so the Spanish apartment went, and just in time.
Following three years of chaos and entertainment in equal measure it looks as though there will be a resolution on brexit soon; those with stronger feelings for Remain than mine for Leave will have to reconcile themselves with what happens in their own way.
If the very small chance of the UK remaining in the EU comes to pass, it'll be time for that cup of tea. The main issue, though very unlikely in terms of probability, is Corbyn, but Miliband helped me to get ahead of the curve on that one. As this is meant to be the Election 2019 thread, nuff said.
Vanden Saab said:
Jimboka said:
MX5Biologist said:
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If anything, Iain Duncan Smith is the example of someone who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. He father was a used car salesman turned RAF fighter ace. Went straight into the army from school. Attended Secondary Modern for 4 years; when I was young, the secondary moderns were where you went if you couldn't get into Grammar School or a Comprehensive. Remarkably, like Jim Callahagn, never completed a university degree, though he claims to have signed up for some courses in Italy. Possibly the lack of a higher education affected him in his later career.
Which just goes to prove that he wasn’t very intelligent. He failed from an early age, not as bright as his peers.If anything, Iain Duncan Smith is the example of someone who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. He father was a used car salesman turned RAF fighter ace. Went straight into the army from school. Attended Secondary Modern for 4 years; when I was young, the secondary moderns were where you went if you couldn't get into Grammar School or a Comprehensive. Remarkably, like Jim Callahagn, never completed a university degree, though he claims to have signed up for some courses in Italy. Possibly the lack of a higher education affected him in his later career.
No wonder that his ideas now are pretty dumb ..
chrispmartha said:
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
crankedup said:
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
PRTVR said:
The other day I was chatting to a few friends who are normally conservative voters who were saying they were struggling with whom to vote for, they had decided on lib Dems due to their remain position, until I pointed out that if enough people did that we could end up with a labour government by default, the look on their faces was a picture.
Well Labour are offering another referendum so maybe voting for Lib Dems isn’t as stupid as you think if you want to remain in the EU.If options are available, and feelings are so high - people still not accepting the referendum result more than three years on due to the awesomeness of the EU - then why not consider all of them to scratch the itch. If options aren't available then it may prove necessary to 'move on, by remaining'.....in the UK.
You will struggle to be able to offer acceptable solutions to the disaffected remain camp. From my pov it is the perfect answer to their perceived problem and angst. As you mention a Member Country in the sun that is romping ahead of the U.K. in Social and financial terms, remainers heaven I would have thought.
My vote was to Leave, but if Remain had won the day, it would have been time to make another cup of tea. As the vote went the way of Leave, I expected and still expect the UK to leave the EU.
Europe is of course a completely different issue to the EU political construct. Some years ago I had a place in Spain mainly as a winter bolthole, and I've spent a lot of time in Paris which is my favourite city by a long way.
When things started going udders skyward for the PIIGS it was time to remain in the UK so the Spanish apartment went, and just in time.
Following three years of chaos and entertainment in equal measure it looks as though there will be a resolution on brexit soon; those with stronger feelings for Remain than mine for Leave will have to reconcile themselves with what happens in their own way.
If the very small chance of the UK remaining in the EU comes to pass, it'll be time for that cup of tea. The main issue, though very unlikely in terms of probability, is Corbyn, but Miliband helped me to get ahead of the curve on that one. As this is meant to be the Election 2019 thread, nuff said.
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
crankedup said:
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
PRTVR said:
The other day I was chatting to a few friends who are normally conservative voters who were saying they were struggling with whom to vote for, they had decided on lib Dems due to their remain position, until I pointed out that if enough people did that we could end up with a labour government by default, the look on their faces was a picture.
Well Labour are offering another referendum so maybe voting for Lib Dems isn’t as stupid as you think if you want to remain in the EU.If options are available, and feelings are so high - people still not accepting the referendum result more than three years on due to the awesomeness of the EU - then why not consider all of them to scratch the itch. If options aren't available then it may prove necessary to 'move on, by remaining'.....in the UK.
You will struggle to be able to offer acceptable solutions to the disaffected remain camp. From my pov it is the perfect answer to their perceived problem and angst. As you mention a Member Country in the sun that is romping ahead of the U.K. in Social and financial terms, remainers heaven I would have thought.
My vote was to Leave, but if Remain had won the day, it would have been time to make another cup of tea. As the vote went the way of Leave, I expected and still expect the UK to leave the EU.
Europe is of course a completely different issue to the EU political construct. Some years ago I had a place in Spain mainly as a winter bolthole, and I've spent a lot of time in Paris which is my favourite city by a long way.
When things started going udders skyward for the PIIGS it was time to remain in the UK so the Spanish apartment went, and just in time.
Following three years of chaos and entertainment in equal measure it looks as though there will be a resolution on brexit soon; those with stronger feelings for Remain than mine for Leave will have to reconcile themselves with what happens in their own way.
If the very small chance of the UK remaining in the EU comes to pass, it'll be time for that cup of tea. The main issue, though very unlikely in terms of probability, is Corbyn, but Miliband helped me to get ahead of the curve on that one. As this is meant to be the Election 2019 thread, nuff said.
Dont like rolls said:
chrispmartha said:
Could be both, he can be successful at becoming Prime Minister but a failure in the role.
Well, his main objective seems to be coming true, Brexit and a full term with an acceptable/good majority.Failure, don't think so (so far)
chrispmartha said:
Dont like rolls said:
chrispmartha said:
Could be both, he can be successful at becoming Prime Minister but a failure in the role.
Well, his main objective seems to be coming true, Brexit and a full term with an acceptable/good majority.Failure, don't think so (so far)
Edited by turbobloke on Monday 18th November 18:14
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
Dont like rolls said:
chrispmartha said:
Could be both, he can be successful at becoming Prime Minister but a failure in the role.
Well, his main objective seems to be coming true, Brexit and a full term with an acceptable/good majority.Failure, don't think so (so far)
Edited by turbobloke on Monday 18th November 18:14
Vanden Saab said:
Jimboka said:
MX5Biologist said:
......
If anything, Iain Duncan Smith is the example of someone who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. He father was a used car salesman turned RAF fighter ace. Went straight into the army from school. Attended Secondary Modern for 4 years; when I was young, the secondary moderns were where you went if you couldn't get into Grammar School or a Comprehensive. Remarkably, like Jim Callahagn, never completed a university degree, though he claims to have signed up for some courses in Italy. Possibly the lack of a higher education affected him in his later career.
Which just goes to prove that he wasn’t very intelligent. He failed from an early age, not as bright as his peers.If anything, Iain Duncan Smith is the example of someone who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. He father was a used car salesman turned RAF fighter ace. Went straight into the army from school. Attended Secondary Modern for 4 years; when I was young, the secondary moderns were where you went if you couldn't get into Grammar School or a Comprehensive. Remarkably, like Jim Callahagn, never completed a university degree, though he claims to have signed up for some courses in Italy. Possibly the lack of a higher education affected him in his later career.
No wonder that his ideas now are pretty dumb ..
Remind me what it is that Leavers are always claiming they get called by Remainers...
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 18th November 19:09
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
crankedup said:
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
PRTVR said:
The other day I was chatting to a few friends who are normally conservative voters who were saying they were struggling with whom to vote for, they had decided on lib Dems due to their remain position, until I pointed out that if enough people did that we could end up with a labour government by default, the look on their faces was a picture.
Well Labour are offering another referendum so maybe voting for Lib Dems isn’t as stupid as you think if you want to remain in the EU.If options are available, and feelings are so high - people still not accepting the referendum result more than three years on due to the awesomeness of the EU - then why not consider all of them to scratch the itch. If options aren't available then it may prove necessary to 'move on, by remaining'.....in the UK.
You will struggle to be able to offer acceptable solutions to the disaffected remain camp. From my pov it is the perfect answer to their perceived problem and angst. As you mention a Member Country in the sun that is romping ahead of the U.K. in Social and financial terms, remainers heaven I would have thought.
My vote was to Leave, but if Remain had won the day, it would have been time to make another cup of tea. As the vote went the way of Leave, I expected and still expect the UK to leave the EU.
Europe is of course a completely different issue to the EU political construct. Some years ago I had a place in Spain mainly as a winter bolthole, and I've spent a lot of time in Paris which is my favourite city by a long way.
When things started going udders skyward for the PIIGS it was time to remain in the UK so the Spanish apartment went, and just in time.
Following three years of chaos and entertainment in equal measure it looks as though there will be a resolution on brexit soon; those with stronger feelings for Remain than mine for Leave will have to reconcile themselves with what happens in their own way.
If the very small chance of the UK remaining in the EU comes to pass, it'll be time for that cup of tea. The main issue, though very unlikely in terms of probability, is Corbyn, but Miliband helped me to get ahead of the curve on that one. As this is meant to be the Election 2019 thread, nuff said.
Most recently my disappointment at the inaction of the EU regarding the treatment of the refugees currently holed up in Lesbos. A shining example of how the suits and boots in Brussels are ineffective and even damaging when it comes to responding in a crisis. And the EU want to create a
armed forces!!
A democratic outrage! 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50463816
Err no it's a TV show you jumped up little t
t. 
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50463816
Err no it's a TV show you jumped up little t
t. chrispmartha said:
turbobloke said:
chrispmartha said:
Dont like rolls said:
chrispmartha said:
Could be both, he can be successful at becoming Prime Minister but a failure in the role.
Well, his main objective seems to be coming true, Brexit and a full term with an acceptable/good majority.Failure, don't think so (so far)
Edited by turbobloke on Monday 18th November 18:14
Labour: "No one needs to be a billionaire"
'The Labour Party will on Tuesday take aim at “obscene” billionaires, pledging a radical redistribution of wealth to cut the power of the super rich who it says bankroll Prime Minister Boris Johnson in return for tax breaks.'
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-electio...
'The Labour Party will on Tuesday take aim at “obscene” billionaires, pledging a radical redistribution of wealth to cut the power of the super rich who it says bankroll Prime Minister Boris Johnson in return for tax breaks.'
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-electio...
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