Election 2019

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Digga said:

ChevyChase77 said:

Digga said:

ChevyChase77 said:

Our Green Party candidate has a nose piercing. And they say we shouldn't stereotype. ;-)

Just she smell a bit like cabbage being boiled in a damp tent too?

Asking for a friend.

I've only seen her in the press, so I don't know. I'll ask one of the people who'll vote for her, I'll just go and find someone with a nose ring, green hair and an overly baggy jumper to ask......

You mean those eco warrior types that incongruously travel around in camper vans made from converted old ambulances or mobile libraries, which appear to be powered by nutty slack?

Nutty slack haven’t heard that for a while, happy Northern days

[anonymous-user]

bhstewie said:

It's almost as if they have't had 9 years to be tackling knife crime.

Seriously, we need a General Election to be prosecuting people for knife possession quickly and it's a "conservative plan" even though they can't have been doing it very well or else why are they now announcing it as a bold new policy?

Needs stop and search reintroducing to be effective, which is something the current London mayor is against, so will need imposing from above.

[bitchstewie]

jsf said:

bhstewie said:

It's almost as if they have't had 9 years to be tackling knife crime.

Seriously, we need a General Election to be prosecuting people for knife possession quickly and it's a "conservative plan" even though they can't have been doing it very well or else why are they now announcing it as a bold new policy?

Needs stop and search reintroducing to be effective, which is something the current London mayor is against, so will need imposing from above.

They have had 9 years and have abjectly failed.

It simply seems a bit rich to be introducing this as some brave bold new policy when they have had 9 years to have done something about the issue.

Want to stop crime? Don't cut Police seems a fairly sensible starting point.

Lipstick on a pig leaps to mind.

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FiF said:

Earthdweller said:

bhstewie said:

I believe the latest YouGov poll showed that the more people see and hear Jo Swinson the more they dislike her.

I haven't seen it just heard it mentioned so don't know it was focusing on parties or leaders.

I’d tend to agree .. she comes across as a shouty sixth former with no depth

Her ability to do 360 degree U turns is another turn off

Her me me me attitude without actually providing any substance and just slagging BJ and Corbyn again is a turn off

Policies ?

Well I know they want to ignore and overturn the largest democratic vote ever ...one that she campaigned to have

Other than “Stopping Brexit” and promising to plant twice as many trees as the Tories

What else ?

I just dont see the point of them at all and coupled with the chance that a vote for them
“Could” put Corbyn in number 10

No chance

That LibDem tree planting, is that the scheme which requires 114 trees being planted every minute of every hour of every day throughout each year.

The campaign ‘plant a tree in ‘73’ a Government sponsored scheme was very successful. The National tree council followed on with its annual tree planting scheme resulting in a total of approx’
20 million trees being planted up to 2008.
60 million a year seems a little ambitious to say the least.

[Helicopter123]

Another one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-...

Tory Aberdeen candidate suspended for 'unacceptable' comments

You have to wonder how ALL parties are failing to weed out the nutters? Presumably some sort of a process in place?

[bitchstewie]

Helicopter123 said:

Another one.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-...

Tory Aberdeen candidate suspended for 'unacceptable' comments

You have to wonder how ALL parties are failing to weed out the nutters? Presumably some sort of a process in place?

I expect we're going to be hearing "out of context" quite a lot over the next few weeks.

[FiF]

Sorry, but LoL.

[Helicopter123]

bhstewie said:

jsf said:

bhstewie said:

It's almost as if they have't had 9 years to be tackling knife crime.

Seriously, we need a General Election to be prosecuting people for knife possession quickly and it's a "conservative plan" even though they can't have been doing it very well or else why are they now announcing it as a bold new policy?

Needs stop and search reintroducing to be effective, which is something the current London mayor is against, so will need imposing from above.

They have had 9 years and have abjectly failed.

It simply seems a bit rich to be introducing this as some brave bold new policy when they have had 9 years to have done something about the issue.

Want to stop crime? Don't cut Police seems a fairly sensible starting point.

Lipstick on a pig leaps to mind.

The reduction in police numbers under a Conservative government seems quite hard to comprehend.

Didn't they used to be the party of 'law and order'?

Edited by Helicopter123 on Tuesday 19th November 17:20

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Helicopter123 said:

The reduction in policy numbers under a Conservative government seems quite hard to comprehend.

Didn't they used to be the party of 'law and order'?

I'm sure there would have been things in 2010 where Labour were offering them where anyone sensible would have said "But you've had 13 years".

They all try the same st.

[anonymous-user]

bhstewie said:

They have had 9 years and have abjectly failed.

It simply seems a bit rich to be introducing this as some brave bold new policy when they have had 9 years to have done something about the issue.

Want to stop crime? Don't cut Police seems a fairly sensible starting point.

Lipstick on a pig leaps to mind.

Ok I'm sold. Lets change the policy to one where yoof get free 12" blades with every pair of baggy arsed jeans.

[bitchstewie]

jsf said:

Ok I'm sold. Lets change the policy to one where yoof get free 12" blades with every pair of baggy arsed jeans.

And now you're being obtuse.

My point is simply that this could have been done at any point during the past 9 years.

Priti Patel could have announced this on her first day in office if it's all Cameron and May's fault.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing to be dealing with knife crime.

But they should have been dealing with it already.

It's just blatant electioneering rather than an admission of abject failure.

[anonymous-user]

bhstewie said:

And now you're being obtuse.

My point is simply that this could have been done at any point during the past 9 years.

Priti Patel could have announced this on her first day in office if it's all Cameron and May's fault.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing to be dealing with knife crime.

But they should have been dealing with it already.

It's just blatant electioneering.

You always get headline policy statements during an election.

You seem to have missed the Tories now have a new leader who has a different approach to the last two.

[turbobloke]

bhstewie said:

My point is simply that this could have been done at any point during the past 9 years.

In the same way, Labour could have tackled poverty / inequality in 13 years. An extra 4 years...

Yet they still keep going on about it, pure electioneering.

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jsf said:

You always get headline policy statements during an election.

You seem to have missed the Tories now have a new leader who has a different approach to the last two.

Of course.

I'd simply hope people might think "Hold on a moment, you lot got us into this mess".

They're almost certainly best placed to get us out of it too, I'd have zero faith in Corbyn on that one.

But there's something oddly fked up about seeing the Conservative party make a big deal out of law and order given they're responsible for most of the current Policing mess.

[anonymous-user]

bhstewie said:

Of course.

I'd simply hope people might think "Hold on a moment, you lot got us into this mess".

They're almost certainly best placed to get us out of it too, I'd have zero faith in Corbyn on that one.

But there's something oddly fked up about seeing the Conservative party make a big deal out of law and order given they're responsible for most of the current Policing mess.

The Mayor of London was given a direct mandate for policing in London in 2011, as part of the Police and Social Responsibility Act. As such, the Mayor is responsible for setting the strategic direction of policing in London through the Police and Crime Plan.

Knife crime has absolutely taken off under Khan.

[bitchstewie]

jsf said:

The Mayor of London was given a direct mandate for policing in London in 2011, as part of the Police and Social Responsibility Act. As such, the Mayor is responsible for setting the strategic direction of policing in London through the Police and Crime Plan.

Knife crime has absolutely taken off under Khan.

No issue with Khan taking his share of responsibility for London and he always comes across as asleep at the wheel on it.

However I believe Kent and West Yorkshire saw the biggest jump in the number of offences and 39 out of 44 forces recorded increases.

That's from a very quick Google and I'm not even remotely pretending to know much about this other than to stress that it's a UK issue not just a London one.

Like I said, tacking it is good, but I'd hope people would ask themselves why it wasn't being tackled properly before.

[FN2TypeR]

Helicopter123 said:

The reduction in police numbers under a Conservative government seems quite hard to comprehend.

Didn't they used to be the party of 'law and order'?

Edited by Helicopter123 on Tuesday 19th November 17:20

And now they're crowing about how they're going to increase policing numbers to what it was prior to them taking charge

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FN2TypeR said:

Helicopter123 said:

The reduction in police numbers under a Conservative government seems quite hard to comprehend.

Didn't they used to be the party of 'law and order'?

Edited by Helicopter123 on Tuesday 19th November 17:20

And now they're crowing about how they're going to increase policing numbers to what it was prior to them taking charge

Now the economy is back on track after our friendly socialists fk it up AGAIN, we are lucky that the economy can stand the increased costs.
Thank god for the Conservatives.

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Dont like rolls said:

Now the economy is back on track after our friendly socialists fk it up AGAIN, we are lucky that the economy can stand the increased costs.
Thank god for the Conservatives.

See this is where I get really confused.

People being stabbed? Ah times are tough, socialists spent it all you see...

Billion quid for the DUP? No problem we can do that...

I don't get the desparation to defend what were choices when it appears that they can't be defended looking at the outcome so far.

They dropped the ball.

[turbobloke]

bhstewie said:

Dont like rolls said:

Now the economy is back on track after our friendly socialists fk it up AGAIN, we are lucky that the economy can stand the increased costs.
Thank god for the Conservatives.

See this is where I get really confused.

People being stabbed? Ah times are tough, socialists spent it all you see...

Billion quid for the DUP? No problem we can do that...

I don't get the desparation to defend what were choices when it appears that they can't be defended looking at the outcome so far.

They dropped the ball.

What desperation? Liam Byrne pointed out in writing that the money was gone.

In that context, what cuts where Labour politicians suggesting to Cameron and Clegg in order to pay for more police officers? NHS?