Poll: Election 2019
Total Members Polled: 1601
Discussion
Helicopter123 said:
The point though, is that this time around a vote for Boris is not cast in admiration of the man and his policies, it is the least worst option for many.
Blair is probably the last PM that was voted for with some positive thoughts. That con trick eventually was found out, it's been hold your nose ever since.Troubleatmill said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Troubleatmill said:
Helicopter123 said:
Who wants to admit in public they are voting for either Boris or Corbyn?
I'll bite.If it is a toss up between Boris or a Jew hating, terrorist sympathiser, unwilling to properly respect those fallen in war, with a track record as long as your arm wishing ill will to our armed forces.
Corbyn just f
king hates Jews with a passion.He is a very dangerous man.
king hate jews.Munich terrorists
Foreward for Imperialism
That mural ( he actually defended it )
He always says " I regret there is "whatever thing he has been caught with" in our society..."
Now - his decades of support for the IRA terrorists , and Diane Abbot loves the IRA too.
A convicted IRA terrorist was a "political prisoner"
And Hitler was one of the greatest men of him time.
I do wish a lot of ill will on him.
Edited by Troubleatmill on Saturday 7th December 21:10
https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2019/11/28/michae...
I'm happy to say I'm voting Tories.
Labour: want to take all my money and spend none of it to my benefit.
Lib dems: want to stop us leaving the EU
Greens:
Brexit: voting for them will only make leaving the EU less likely.
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My perfect party would be far more economically laissez faire than the Tories, but less socially conservative, but you pick from the options offered.
Labour: want to take all my money and spend none of it to my benefit.
Lib dems: want to stop us leaving the EU
Greens:
Brexit: voting for them will only make leaving the EU less likely.
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My perfect party would be far more economically laissez faire than the Tories, but less socially conservative, but you pick from the options offered.
rxe said:
Helicopter123 said:
Who wants to admit in public they are voting for either Boris or Corbyn?
Me. Boris, postal vote already in, I’m off on hols next week. Bunged them a chunky donation as well.But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
I'm voting Tory for the first time ever.
Would never vote for the crackpot terrorist sympathiser Corbyn if you paid me.
Jo Swinson Turncoat anti democratic Witch would never get my vote.
SNP used to get my vote. No more. They have lost the plot and that blustering buffoon Blackford is an embarrassment to Scots.
Would never vote for the crackpot terrorist sympathiser Corbyn if you paid me.
Jo Swinson Turncoat anti democratic Witch would never get my vote.
SNP used to get my vote. No more. They have lost the plot and that blustering buffoon Blackford is an embarrassment to Scots.
Helicopter123 said:
Easy words to say on a forum with a anonymity, could even be true.
But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
They tend to get vandalised: people on the left tend to be quite destructive. But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
Can't remember the last time I saw a vandalised Labour sign.
Johnnytheboy said:
Helicopter123 said:
Easy words to say on a forum with a anonymity, could even be true.
But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
They tend to get vandalised: people on the left tend to be quite destructive. But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
Can't remember the last time I saw a vandalised Labour sign.
Johnnytheboy said:
Helicopter123 said:
Easy words to say on a forum with a anonymity, could even be true.
But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
They tend to get vandalised: people on the left tend to be quite destructive. But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
Can't remember the last time I saw a vandalised Labour sign.
Johnnytheboy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
I personally don't put one up because I feel it would invite unwanted attention. Rural Conservative voting areas are full of economically ignorant meathead thugs.
All that money can make you that way Mobile Chicane said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Mobile Chicane said:
I personally don't put one up because I feel it would invite unwanted attention. Rural Conservative voting areas are full of economically ignorant meathead thugs.
All that money can make you that way Please f
k off Mobile Chicane said:
The funny thing is, these are not wealthy people doing the meat headed thuggery. They are game shoot beaters and estate labourers who live in tied cottages, highly dependent on the crumbs their feudal masters deem to brush from the table. It's all they've ever known. Stockholm Syndrome, in action.
Are you from the 18th century?Polls are all over the place. Utterly bewildering.
Wrexham been in Labour hands since 1931
Conservative 44%
Labour 29%
Plaid 10%
Green 2%
Survation Nov 27-30
Yet national polls suggest that the prediction should be either small Con majority most likely whilst a hung parliament is still plausible.
Then you look at numbers like those above. Either national polls are twaddle, or we are about to see something truly historical, or they're generally not far off but with s few outliers and surprises on the night.
Which is a long winded way of saying Christ only knows, I certainly don't.
My postal vote is in, waste of time, mega safe Tory lately.
Wrexham been in Labour hands since 1931
Conservative 44%
Labour 29%
Plaid 10%
- Brexit Party 9%
Green 2%
Survation Nov 27-30
Yet national polls suggest that the prediction should be either small Con majority most likely whilst a hung parliament is still plausible.
Then you look at numbers like those above. Either national polls are twaddle, or we are about to see something truly historical, or they're generally not far off but with s few outliers and surprises on the night.
Which is a long winded way of saying Christ only knows, I certainly don't.
My postal vote is in, waste of time, mega safe Tory lately.
Just to recap.
This is a Brexit election.
During the referendum 406 constituencies voted to Leave and 242 voted to Remain. I would hazard a guess that very, very few voters have changed their mind. This will be reflected in the election. Anyone see the Channel 4 Focus group where 9 previous Labour voters all said it would now be Boris. That is being repeated across the Leave voting, previously Labour voting, heartlands.
There may be a few outliers but I venture that the elecorate will vote in those 406/242 proportions. I have said before that Corbyn has to turn 83 Leave constituencies into Remain constituencies to have a hope of gaining power. Who would bet he can?
And that was before the unfunded bribes ( two slabs of Stella and 300 ciggies) , the magic money tree, the antisemitism and now the Russian connection.
Oh and Corbyn is less popular than the clap, nationally.
Boris will get his majority and will then deliver a Brexit. But the most important thing is the majority.
This is a Brexit election.
During the referendum 406 constituencies voted to Leave and 242 voted to Remain. I would hazard a guess that very, very few voters have changed their mind. This will be reflected in the election. Anyone see the Channel 4 Focus group where 9 previous Labour voters all said it would now be Boris. That is being repeated across the Leave voting, previously Labour voting, heartlands.
There may be a few outliers but I venture that the elecorate will vote in those 406/242 proportions. I have said before that Corbyn has to turn 83 Leave constituencies into Remain constituencies to have a hope of gaining power. Who would bet he can?
And that was before the unfunded bribes ( two slabs of Stella and 300 ciggies) , the magic money tree, the antisemitism and now the Russian connection.
Oh and Corbyn is less popular than the clap, nationally.
Boris will get his majority and will then deliver a Brexit. But the most important thing is the majority.
Helicopter123 said:
Easy words to say on a forum with a anonymity, could even be true.
But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
I suppose I could post my email receipt along with a packet of Bird’s finest? But it’s late, and I have a flight to catch in, er, 6 hours, But how many have the posters up in windows, signs in the Garden, proclaiming support for the Tories or Labour?
Very few I would venture.
I generally don’t proclaim my allegiance to anything. Other than Alfa-Romeo, you can see that from the fleet outside the house.
king arthur said:
Mobile Chicane said:
The funny thing is, these are not wealthy people doing the meat headed thuggery. They are game shoot beaters and estate labourers who live in tied cottages, highly dependent on the crumbs their feudal masters deem to brush from the table. It's all they've ever known. Stockholm Syndrome, in action.
Are you from the 18th century?Helicopter123 said:
Red 4 said:
JagLover said:
It does show however the limitations of conscript armies in fighting professional armies.
Without much in the way of air support the British forces were able to defeat numerical superior conscript formations. At Goose green for example a numerically inferior British force attacked an entrenched Argentine force and inflicted over twice their own losses and captured 961 on top.
You cannot simply look at the size of the Russian army and say they would simply roll over everything when many of their soldiers would have had only a few months proper training at best.
Russia - Active military 900,000Without much in the way of air support the British forces were able to defeat numerical superior conscript formations. At Goose green for example a numerically inferior British force attacked an entrenched Argentine force and inflicted over twice their own losses and captured 961 on top.
You cannot simply look at the size of the Russian army and say they would simply roll over everything when many of their soldiers would have had only a few months proper training at best.
UK - Active military 148,000
France - Active military 203,000
Germany - Active military 179,000
Other European forces stats are available but I think it's fair to say the Ruskies would overrun Europe.
Until the Yanks came to the rescue;
US - Active military 1.36 million.
Until the Ruskies brought in their reserves of 2 million.
Do not underestimate the might of Russian forces.
It is immense.
Edited by Red 4 on Saturday 7th December 14:42
Or the Americans, how did Vietnam go?
Numbers one thing, but sustaining an overseas offensive something else.
Western Europe can’t really make either of those claims
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