Election 2019

[anonymous-user]

Another factor in elections was always that less people used to admit to voting Tory than actually intended to or did.

I could be very wrong, but I'm expecting a bigger Tory win than the polls are suggesting.

[Mobile Chicane]

I'll just leave this here. Any right-thinking person should be appalled by the Tories' arrogance:

[gazapc]

Mobile Chicane said:

I'll just leave this here. Any right-thinking person should be appalled by the Tories' arrogance:

You do realise this is a spoof Facebook account?

[anonymous-user]

Mobile Chicane said:

I'll just leave this here. Any right-thinking person should be appalled by the Tories' arrogance:

It is obnoxious, but then it's a parody/fake page designed to fool people like you. Look at the ads they're running, a Pacer train on Northern to claim privatisation works?

What it isn't, is anything to do with the Tories or Tory voters.

https://www.facebook.com/ads/library/?active_statu...

Well done on being one of those fooled, though.

[bitchstewie]

Couldn't really make this up.

Jewish Labour Movement no longer backs own party

What a state of affairs.

[Mobile Chicane]

gazapc said:

Mobile Chicane said:

I'll just leave this here. Any right-thinking person should be appalled by the Tories' arrogance:

You do realise this is a spoof Facebook account?

Have a look at the rest of their material and it's clear that some deluded fkwit actually thinks like that.

[Johnnytheboy]

Mobile Chicane said:

Have a look at the rest of their material and it's clear that some deluded fkwit actually thinks like that.

There's plenty of deluded fk wits on the internet.

Some have been that way a long time, some seem to have come to fk witted delusion only recently.

[anonymous-user]

Mobile Chicane said:

Have a look at the rest of their material and it's clear that some deluded fkwit actually thinks like that.

If you look at the rest of the material, it's clear nobody thinks like that and it's a page designed to fool simple people into thinking it's connected to the Tory party and its voters.

Once you've stopped shaking from outrage you could be sensible and say "oh, I was fooled, silly me" and nobody would think any less of you.

[JagLover]

Poll in the Sunday Times today showing usual ten point gap

Tories 43%
Labour 33%

Detailed constituency by constituency polling is only showing a Tory majority of 38, even with such a large margin and many seats are very close. The polling firm says that a hung parliament is still possible.

Edited by JagLover on Sunday 8th December 09:10

[Zirconia]

Nige and Corby were in Wales this weekend.

Nige says he is not worried if there was any interference (questioned about the NHS source and leak).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50699097

Corbyn asks do you like jam with this. Not sure if he was asked about the Welsh NHS issues.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50688325

Wales still looking to get a few reds turn blue.

[turbobloke]

JagLover said:

Poll in the Sunday Times today showing usual ten point gap

Tories 43%
Labour 33%

Detailed constituency by constituency polling is only showing a Tory majority of 38, even with such a large margin and many seats are very close. The polling form says that a hung parliament is still possible.

The answer to the fundamental question is 42

[Vanden Saab]

FiF said:

Polls are all over the place. Utterly bewildering.

Wrexham been in Labour hands since 1931

Conservative 44%
Labour 29%
Plaid 10%

1. Brexit Party 9%

LibDem 6%
Green 2%

Survation Nov 27-30

Yet national polls suggest that the prediction should be either small Con majority most likely whilst a hung parliament is still plausible.

Then you look at numbers like those above. Either national polls are twaddle, or we are about to see something truly historical, or they're generally not far off but with s few outliers and surprises on the night.

Which is a long winded way of saying Christ only knows, I certainly don't.

My postal vote is in, waste of time, mega safe Tory lately.

Not sure they are all over the place at all, every individual constituency poll I have seen from leave voting normally safe Labour seats is for a huge swing to the Tories often resulting in a Tory win. Polls, even very large ones by their nature have to make assumptions based on previous polling/ voting. It seems their models just cannot cope with this kind of change of usual voting habits. This is a map of the voting by region in the Euro elections, I expect the Blue, albeit of a Tory hue, to cover more of the map on Friday than this one does.



I am going to stick my neck out and say I expect a stonking Conservative majority with close to 400 seats won assuming they do not do anything stupid between now and polling day.

[BOR]

Mobile Chicane said:

Meanwhile, Michael Rosen sets the record straight on behalf of the thousands of Jewish people who support Jeremy Corbyn:
https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2019/11/28/michae...

Oh No !

Thousands more Wrong Jews !

[Captain Raymond Holt]

JagLover said:

Poll in the Sunday Times today showing usual ten point gap

Tories 43%
Labour 33%

Detailed constituency by constituency polling is only showing a Tory majority of 38, even with such a large margin and many seats are very close. The polling firm says that a hung parliament is still possible.

Edited by JagLover on Sunday 8th December 09:10

Don’t you know the drill, the gap is less than 10. That’s the official party message.


The numbers must be wrong...

[Tyre Smoke]

Vanden Saab said:

FiF said:

Polls are all over the place. Utterly bewildering.

Wrexham been in Labour hands since 1931

Conservative 44%
Labour 29%
Plaid 10%

1. Brexit Party 9%

LibDem 6%
Green 2%

Survation Nov 27-30

Yet national polls suggest that the prediction should be either small Con majority most likely whilst a hung parliament is still plausible.

Then you look at numbers like those above. Either national polls are twaddle, or we are about to see something truly historical, or they're generally not far off but with s few outliers and surprises on the night.

Which is a long winded way of saying Christ only knows, I certainly don't.

My postal vote is in, waste of time, mega safe Tory lately.

Not sure they are all over the place at all, every individual constituency poll I have seen from leave voting normally safe Labour seats is for a huge swing to the Tories often resulting in a Tory win. Polls, even very large ones by their nature have to make assumptions based on previous polling/ voting. It seems their models just cannot cope with this kind of change of usual voting habits. This is a map of the voting by region in the Euro elections, I expect the Blue, albeit of a Tory hue, to cover more of the map on Friday than this one does.



I am going to stick my neck out and say I expect a stonking Conservative majority with close to 400 seats won assuming they do not do anything stupid between now and polling day.

I hope you are right, but I can't see Bradshaw losing his seat in Exeter, but I can see Pollard losing his seat in Plymouth Sutton+Devonport.

[JagLover]

Mystery solved.

I was wondering why we have seen so many Labour canvassers in a Tory seat which they hold with a majority of 8,000. Per the Sunday Times the Labour candidate is from momentum so Labour supporters from twelve other constituencies have been brought in to campaign for her.

Hopefully we will see such misallocation of resources on a national scale.

[Captain Raymond Holt]

Tyre Smoke said:

Vanden Saab said:

FiF said:

Polls are all over the place. Utterly bewildering.

Wrexham been in Labour hands since 1931

Conservative 44%
Labour 29%
Plaid 10%

1. Brexit Party 9%

LibDem 6%
Green 2%

Survation Nov 27-30

Yet national polls suggest that the prediction should be either small Con majority most likely whilst a hung parliament is still plausible.

Then you look at numbers like those above. Either national polls are twaddle, or we are about to see something truly historical, or they're generally not far off but with s few outliers and surprises on the night.

Which is a long winded way of saying Christ only knows, I certainly don't.

My postal vote is in, waste of time, mega safe Tory lately.

Not sure they are all over the place at all, every individual constituency poll I have seen from leave voting normally safe Labour seats is for a huge swing to the Tories often resulting in a Tory win. Polls, even very large ones by their nature have to make assumptions based on previous polling/ voting. It seems their models just cannot cope with this kind of change of usual voting habits. This is a map of the voting by region in the Euro elections, I expect the Blue, albeit of a Tory hue, to cover more of the map on Friday than this one does.



I am going to stick my neck out and say I expect a stonking Conservative majority with close to 400 seats won assuming they do not do anything stupid between now and polling day.

I hope you are right, but I can't see Bradshaw losing his seat in Exeter, but I can see Pollard losing his seat in Plymouth Sutton+Devonport.

Id put £20 on there be a majority but not more than a 22 seat one.

[Zirconia]

Marr was savaging some Tory MP (security brief) on the release of the Russian report, says it will get published.

When I say savaging, let him off after some stern glowering and lame questions.

iPlayer 9:25 wish I would guess. On the SNP leader now.

[Vanden Saab]

BOR said:

Mobile Chicane said:

Meanwhile, Michael Rosen sets the record straight on behalf of the thousands of Jewish people who support Jeremy Corbyn:
https://www.thecanary.co/opinion/2019/11/28/michae...

Oh No !

Thousands more Wrong Jews !

The Canary???

The JC said:

Pro-Corbyn website The Canary denies it is anti-Semitic, then blames 'political Zionists' for forcing it to downsize

This Canary?

[don'tbesilly]

Zirconia said:

Marr was savaging some Tory MP (security brief) on the release of the Russian report, says it will get published.

When I say savaging, let him off after some stern glowering and lame questions.

iPlayer 9:25 wish I would guess. On the SNP leader now.

Brandon Lewis (Tory MP) and 'savaging' is something Marr is incapable of doing, Marr is no Andrew Neil.