Election 2019

Poll: Election 2019

Total Members Polled: 1601

Conservative Party: 58%
Labour: 8%
Lib Dem: 19%
Green: 1%
Brexit Party: 7%
UKIP: 0%
SNP: 1%
Plaid Cymru: 0%
Other.: 2%
Spoil ballot paper. : 5%
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pingu393

7,858 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Has anybody changed their mind since Parliament was dissolved? If so, why?

Carl_Manchester

12,309 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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BOR said:
Norfolkit said:
Laura Kuenssberg just reported on Politics Live that postal votes are dire for Labour, dire is her word not mine (but I hope she's correct). Does anyone get sight of the postal votes prior to the count?
Maybe it was a daydream she just had ?

Did she look absolutely ecstatic when she said it ?
She was referring to Tower Hamlets where they have already announced the final result.

biggbn

23,608 posts

221 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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V6 Pushfit said:
R Mutt said:
biggbn said:
Some of my favourite books, Josef Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness' and Harper Lee's 'To kill a mockingbird' have racially inflamatory words and images in them but they are integral to the plot and illustrate the historic period the works are set. I do not think Johnson has the excuse of historicity but he may have the excuse of plot. If however, they are just casually used as descriptors in a narrative fashion, I cannot see why he would choose to use them. But, again, this is conjecture and as tempting as it is to play the man rather than the ball, I would rather find more out and give it some thought.
Many would refuse to distinguish between the views of the characters, the author, and reader.

Of course as was joked by another poster, the only value in dissecting the character is in a English Literature class while the author is open to greater scrutiny and the reader to a lesser extent. Fortunately I have no desire to read Mein Kampf as obviously non-fiction projects the evils of the subject (and in an autobiographical context, the evils of the author) more directly on to the reader. I gave up reading Maggie's on the train and not just because it was quite a cumbersome hardback.

It's not just in the context either as offence is the prerogative of the victim and with objectivity out of the window you can choose your own villains too. The many people who have been demonised or sacked or no-platformed for simply referencing the bad thing/ word is often defensive PR, but is just as often political.

Edited by R Mutt on Tuesday 10th December 22:05
I’m sure you two are great chaps in real life.
This is real life, surely? We are discussing a topic that came up about the prime minister in a thread about the upcoming election. And we were doing so politely and respectfully. Not sure what your comment alludes to? Unless you find polite and respectful to be difficult concepts to grasp?

Edited by biggbn on Wednesday 11th December 14:27

chrispmartha

15,529 posts

130 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
Has anybody changed their mind since Parliament was dissolved? If so, why?
I hadn’t made up my mind then and still don’t know who I’m going to Vote for, for the first time though I’m considering voting tactically

egor110

16,914 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Mr_Megalomaniac said:
egor110 said:
Because of the current mayor or because a lot of immigrants don't want to be here post brexit ?
According to the statistics those who left were British born (race data was not collected) but indicating at least it was an exodus of native Brits not migrants (that being said, I'm a migrant and I left London last year as well because its become intolerable)
Intolerable as in people's attitudes to you or financially ?

How have you found where you moved to in comparison .

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
Has anybody changed their mind since Parliament was dissolved? If so, why?
Since parliament dissolved I have changed my mind, I now think Caramel Chew Chew is better than the Cookie Dough Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Carl_Manchester said:
She was referring to Tower Hamlets where they have already announced the final result.
hehe

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

100 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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swiveleyedgit said:
Carl_Manchester said:
She was referring to Tower Hamlets where they have already announced the final result.
hehe
The Labour guy won with 103% of the vote.

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Mothersruin said:
Since parliament dissolved I have changed my mind, I now think Caramel Chew Chew is better than the Cookie Dough Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.
THIS is true.

SCEtoAUX

4,119 posts

82 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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HustleRussell said:
zygalski said:
Spoilt ballot with none of the above it is then, for the first time ever.
Same.
Yep.

Not one of my three candidates deserves my vote, so a spoilt ballot it is from me.

pingu393

7,858 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
Mothersruin said:
Since parliament dissolved I have changed my mind, I now think Caramel Chew Chew is better than the Cookie Dough Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.
THIS is true.
I'l take this as an endorsement. I hope it tastes nice with port, as that will be my tipple for tomorrow night.

Mr_Megalomaniac

859 posts

67 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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egor110 said:
Intolerable as in people's attitudes to you or financially ?

How have you found where you moved to in comparison .
A mix of both. I'm White and have been the subject of more than a few race-based altercations in Bermondsey and Finchley.
Then there are the factors around crime concerns, congestion, etc. Cost is also a big factor.

I moved to Kent instead and I have found it a welcome change. Both me and my fiancee are much happier, both less stressed and far more content with the general state of life.
As a helpful trade off, my mortgage is now less per month than my rent was.
As an unhelpful trade off, my commute has gotten longer and more expensive.

ChocolateFrog

25,635 posts

174 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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My local paper The Doncaster Free Press is now running stories almost entirely pro Labour and anti the rest of the parties on their Fb page.

I didn't even think thet were particularly politically affiliated but then remembered their parent company owns the independent.

otolith

56,346 posts

205 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
Mothersruin said:
Since parliament dissolved I have changed my mind, I now think Caramel Chew Chew is better than the Cookie Dough Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.
THIS is true.
BURN THE HERETICS

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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pingu393 said:
Has anybody changed their mind since Parliament was dissolved? If so, why?
Yes
I now find it harder to decide which elfin like plain jane androgynous female Labour MP is best suited to appear in my more depraved fantasies.
I have always thought Shami Chakrabarti to be the best one but she seems to be growing her hair more.

Whilst I have not seen much of her but I am strongly leaning towards Yvette Cooper. She just has the look of a chambermaid from Upstairs Downstairs about her. She is also developing that cross between Glenda Jackson and Emma Thompson look that ageing women have.

It is still a close thing but I do feel that the West Yorkshire member may be the one for my own


pingu393

7,858 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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techiedave said:
pingu393 said:
Has anybody changed their mind since Parliament was dissolved? If so, why?
Yes
I now find it harder to decide which elfin like plain jane androgynous female Labour MP is best suited to appear in my more depraved fantasies.
I have always thought Shami Chakrabarti to be the best one but she seems to be growing her hair more.

Whilst I have not seen much of her but I am strongly leaning towards Yvette Cooper. She just has the look of a chambermaid from Upstairs Downstairs about her. She is also developing that cross between Glenda Jackson and Emma Thompson look that ageing women have.

It is still a close thing but I do feel that the West Yorkshire member may be the one for my own
Now Gloria del Piero is not standing, nor am I eek

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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otolith said:
Dont like rolls said:
Mothersruin said:
Since parliament dissolved I have changed my mind, I now think Caramel Chew Chew is better than the Cookie Dough Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream.
THIS is true.
BURN THE HERETICS
Get back to your dipping stool, we all know Cookie Dough is just there to short change you out of ice cream.

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,874 posts

82 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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Mothersruin said:
The Labour guy won with 103% of the vote.
Which is 10% lower than last time.

feef

5,206 posts

184 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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ChocolateFrog

25,635 posts

174 months

Wednesday 11th December 2019
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chrispmartha said:
pingu393 said:
Has anybody changed their mind since Parliament was dissolved? If so, why?
I hadn’t made up my mind then and still don’t know who I’m going to Vote for, for the first time though I’m considering voting tactically
Same. It will be nothing but a protest but my local TBP candidate does atleast hail from the constituency he's standing in unlike the LD and Tory candidates which live in London, I'm not sure the LD candidate has ever even been here.
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