Election 2019

[98elise]

JuanCarlosFandango said:

oyster said:

You may well be right.
But that's scary isn't it? We should not be electing a government for FIVE years just on the basis of one issue.

At the very worst Brexit will impact my personal income and wealth by a few percentage points. A Corbyn government will impact it by a lot more.

Not really scary, no. Brexit will impact the way this country is governed for decades or even centuries to come. Whatever silly stuff Corbyn would potentially do can be undone.

Besides which Corbyn won't get elected at least partly because he has nothing to say on Brexit except vacilating between his 70s trade unionist aversion to free trade and his 90s Islington hatred of Britain.

My and my partners assets (BTL) will be sold off at a discount, and any money I do get will then be taxed.

How will that be undone?

[PositronicRay]

98elise said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

oyster said:

You may well be right.
But that's scary isn't it? We should not be electing a government for FIVE years just on the basis of one issue.

At the very worst Brexit will impact my personal income and wealth by a few percentage points. A Corbyn government will impact it by a lot more.

Not really scary, no. Brexit will impact the way this country is governed for decades or even centuries to come. Whatever silly stuff Corbyn would potentially do can be undone.

Besides which Corbyn won't get elected at least partly because he has nothing to say on Brexit except vacilating between his 70s trade unionist aversion to free trade and his 90s Islington hatred of Britain.

My and my partners assets (BTL) will be sold off at a discount, and any money I do get will then be taxed.

How will that be undone?

Just because McD and Corby spout bks doesn't mean they'll be allowed to do it. The houses will tie then in knots.

[andy43]

Labour have one heck of a set of plans dreamt up.
If you're a landlord, a tenant, a homeowner, a pensioner with a private pension, or you have any pension or investment full stop, or you own a business, or work for an SME, or for a company they plan to nationalise, or for a bank etc etc, you'd have to be thinking long and hard about voting for McDonnell.
There's the problem though - some won't think.

[21st Century Man]

I was just having a pint in my local and was chatting to a nice old boy, then I realised that he was the leader of one of the UK's major political party's, and he's in town for their annual party conference this weekend.

Which party? Well, it's the one with a manifesto that has always surprised me with so many sensible policies, which is not really what they're supposed to be about!

[PositronicRay]

21st Century Man said:

I was just having a pint in my local and was chatting to a nice old boy, then I realised that he was the leader of one of the UK's major political party's, and he's in town for their annual party conference this weekend.

Which party? Well, it's the one with a manifesto that has always surprised me with so many sensible policies, which is not really what they're supposed to be about!

I didn't know screaming Lord sutch was still with us.

[21st Century Man]

PositronicRay said:

21st Century Man said:

I was just having a pint in my local and was chatting to a nice old boy, then I realised that he was the leader of one of the UK's major political party's, and he's in town for their annual party conference this weekend.

Which party? Well, it's the one with a manifesto that has always surprised me with so many sensible policies, which is not really what they're supposed to be about!

I didn't know screaming Lord sutch was still with us.

His successor is

[JuanCarlosFandango]

To condense replies a bit:

I'm definitely not blasé about a Corbyn government. The man is an absolute fool at best and would do enormous damage.

However he is absolutely no threat whatsoever because he is not going to win an election, and least of all on his confused and dishonest Brexit stance.

This is no accident. Corbyn has nothing to say on Brexit because he doesn't care a jot for principles or the long term, and Brexit is all about principles and the long term.

Make the next election about the NHS, low pay and hitting the nasty rich folk and Corbyn is dangerous because he will pander to those sentiments and make the undeliverable promises. Make it about Brexit and he will be an irrelevance, haemorrhaging support to both sides while he blathers on about food banks.

[djohnson]

Digga said:

JuanCarlosFandango said:

Whatever silly stuff Corbyn would potentially do can be undone.

A dangerous and incorrect assumption. what can easily be taken out of private ownership (working) cannot easily remain functional as a pubic entity, less still be put back into private ownership with any degree of surety.

Corbyn proposes some radical stuff. As the FT said the other week, the biggest private to public ownership undertaken in any developed economy, ever.

Yep there’s a few issues with the assumption we can undo quickly damage caused by Corbyn. Firstly we’d have to get them out of power which can be tricky with Marxists. Secondly if you think austerity has been bad this time it’s a walk in the park compared to what would be needed once corbyn and McDonnell have had their despicable paws on the purse strings and would take years and more likely decades to sort the resultant debt out. Thirdly is the impact on inbound investment businesses would to a big extent leave the UK, new investment would be elsewhere also. Even if Corbyn is replaced by the Tories inbound investment will be very slow to recover, once Nissan has invested in Holland or Spain instead they’re there for many decades and also markets have memories, business would worry that the looney left would come to power again and avoid UK investment. All in best if we keep Corbyn out, he’s a far bigger threat that Brexit.

[Borghetto]

djohnson said:

markets have memories

Up until I saw Argentina getting a 50 billion US Dollar bail out from the IMF, I would have agreed with you. It seems with Kirchner and her ilk, looking like getting back into power, they'll have to learn all over again.

[BOR]

What is the timetable for an election once it has been called ? One Month ? Two months ?

[Digga]

BOR said:

What is the timetable for an election once it has been called ? One Month ? Two months ?

Good question. Google answers: https://www.itv.com/news/2019-08-28/how-quickly-co...

Management summary: 25 working days. So roughly 1 month.

[NoNeed]

Jess Phillips must be the best MP on the campaign trail

https://twitter.com/HowlandRobin/status/1181596988...

[irocfan]

NoNeed said:

Jess Phillips must be the best MP on the campaign trail

https://twitter.com/HowlandRobin/status/1181596988...

Well every one should be good at something - she's fk-all use at anything else

[Vanden Saab]

NoNeed said:

Jess Phillips must be the best MP on the campaign trail

https://twitter.com/HowlandRobin/status/1181596988...

Almost 600 a day... every day... Posties deliver to around the same number of addresses each day...

[M3333]

NW Durham here. We have Laura Pidcock. In her 20's. Dad was a councillor in Cramlington. She ended up with this safe Labour seat through family contacts. She is very close to Corbyn and preaches his socialist nonsense.

Claimed she couldn't afford a house. Hates the tories. Couldn't stomach a Tory as a friend. Bleated she couldn't ever afford a house because of Austerity.

She actually lives in a beautiful cottage which is mortgaged in the most affluent middle class area of this constituency. She keeps that quiet.

I wish people would wake up. I really do not know which way to vote. Brexit Party or Conservative. In my opinion I wish the tories would not stand and form an alliance with TBP. They will absorb a lot of the labour vote and appeal to traditional incensed conservatives also. Putting both up may split it and let Pidcock back in.

Do not get me started on Sedgefield down the road. We have Blairs old constituency. We have Phil Wilson. To be fair locals want his head on a plate.

[irocfan]

Vanden Saab said:

Almost 600 a day... every day... Posties deliver to around the same number of addresses each day...

Key word there - deliver. They don't then have a chat

[Turn7]

Another spoilt paper for me.

I cant see me ever voting again if the whole 2 party st show carries on.

Self serving idiots.

[Klippie]

From up here north of the border by default I hate the Tory's and everything they stand for, but my loathing for the SNP is even greater so once again I'll be voting Conservative come election time as they have the best chance to remove the SNP from power it may take a while but I can wait.

I voted to leave Europe in the referendum so again I'll be voting Conservative or perhaps Brexit as they are the only ones fighting for the cause, Labour will never get my vote again...they are an utter disgrace.

[dazwalsh]

NoNeed said:

Jess Phillips must be the best MP on the campaign trail

https://twitter.com/HowlandRobin/status/1181596988...

Very precise figures, anyone would think they were made up, oh hang on yes, yes they are.

Also only 12 people mentioned brexit?? Lying scumbag. If there were 12 people who didn't mention brexit that would be closer the mark.

The entire labour front bench are about the worst shower of st you could possibly dig up in politics. Jess and Emily in particular have upped their fkwittery game recently.

[Leicester Loyal]

Convervatives or Brexit Party, depending on how the next few weeks go.