Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

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don'tbesilly said:

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Farage comes across superficially better than the other two but it's a lot easier for him to do that and to speak 'off the cuff' in that way. He's not standing, his party have little chance of even gaining a single seat, he has very little mainstream media scrutiny compared to the other two and effectively has nothing to lose.

Johnson and Corbyn both know that any tiny slip will be magnified into something huge, and the are both appealing to a tiny constituency of voters who might change their minds. Consequently their answers are little more than carefully scripted messages, regardless of the question being asked. Johnson seemed noticeably worse than Corbyn to me on this last night

I suspect that both are more than capable of speaking more directly than they did last night, but chose to play it dull but sake.

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jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Was this on the same lefty-biased BBC that has a huge thread running on it's apparent bias?

[chrispmartha]

don'tbesilly said:

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Of course he would because he can spout anything he likes as he will never have to act upon anything, as long as people keep on sending him cash he’ll rabble rouse from the sidelines it’s what he's best at.

Tech start up company, yeah right.

[bitchstewie]

chrispmartha said:

Tech start up company, yeah right.

In fairness if you're a registered supporter telling people "I'm a venture capitalist investing in a tech startup" probably sounds a bit more palatable than acknowledging the grubby things your donations are really paying for.

[don'tbesilly]

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Of course he would because he can spout anything he likes as he will never have to act upon anything, as long as people keep on sending him cash he’ll rabble rouse from the sidelines it’s what he's best at.

Tech start up company, yeah right.

I didn't see any rabble rousing just clearly answered questions posed from the audience and the same at those posed by Fiona Bruce.

Farage has got as much to gain/lose as Swinson, she stands as much chance as Farage does of leading the country based on the polls (not that the polls are required for the Lib-Dems as a governing party), yet you've already stated she's the one you are voting for and based on her poor performance on ITV last night.
No one needs to send cash to Farage to vote for his party, any donations are purely voluntary just as they are for any other PP.

It will be interesting to see how the others Johnson/Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon perform under the same spotlight as Farage did last night.

[chrispmartha]

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Of course he would because he can spout anything he likes as he will never have to act upon anything, as long as people keep on sending him cash he’ll rabble rouse from the sidelines it’s what he's best at.

Tech start up company, yeah right.

I didn't see any rabble rousing just clearly answered questions posed from the audience and the same at those posed by Fiona Bruce.

Farage has got as much to gain/lose as Swinson, she stands as much chance as Farage does of leading the country based on the polls (not that the polls are required for the Lib-Dems as a governing party), yet you've already stated she's the one you are voting for and based on her poor performance on ITV last night.
No one needs to send cash to Farage to vote for his party, any donations are purely voluntary just as they are for any other PP.

It will be interesting to see how the others Johnson/Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon perform under the same spotlight as Farage did last night.

Swinson is an MP, Farage is not and is too scared to try and become one, she has far more to lose, she is also the leader of a party who allows their members to vote her in or out of the position again not something Farage is willing to do.

Ive actually stated I don’t know who will get my vote as yet

[anonymous-user]

TBP is, as pointed out repeatedly, not a political party in any meaningful sense. It is a business venture for Farage who is as many have observed a political heckler rather than a politician. He has nothing positive to offer on anything. He is just there to snipe and cause trouble, and to make himself rich by pandering to some of the worst opinions that people can hold.

[TheRealNoNeedy]

Breadvan72 said:

TBP is, as pointed out repeatedly, not a political party in any meaningful sense. It is a business venture for Farage who is as many have observed a political heckler rather than a politician. He has nothing positive to offer on anything. He is just there to snipe and cause trouble, and to make himself rich by pandering to some of the worst opinions that people can hold.

And therein one post is all that is wrong with this country and why some people decided to go and live on a Caribbean island.

[don'tbesilly]

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Of course he would because he can spout anything he likes as he will never have to act upon anything, as long as people keep on sending him cash he’ll rabble rouse from the sidelines it’s what he's best at.

Tech start up company, yeah right.

I didn't see any rabble rousing just clearly answered questions posed from the audience and the same at those posed by Fiona Bruce.

Farage has got as much to gain/lose as Swinson, she stands as much chance as Farage does of leading the country based on the polls (not that the polls are required for the Lib-Dems as a governing party), yet you've already stated she's the one you are voting for and based on her poor performance on ITV last night.
No one needs to send cash to Farage to vote for his party, any donations are purely voluntary just as they are for any other PP.

It will be interesting to see how the others Johnson/Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon perform under the same spotlight as Farage did last night.

Swinson is an MP, Farage is not and is too scared to try and become one, she has far more to lose, she is also the leader of a party who allows their members to vote her in or out of the position again not something Farage is willing to do.

Ive actually stated I don’t know who will get my vote as yet...........................

But you're fairly certain it will be the Lib-Dems

chrispmartha said:

Well I’m a floating voter as I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet and I don’t really have any party allegiance (although I couldn’t vote for anything to do with Nigel Farage), but I thought Jo Swinson would get my vote from tonights interviews/debates, won’t be popular on here I’m sure but that’s where I’m at at the moment.

[chrispmartha]

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Of course he would because he can spout anything he likes as he will never have to act upon anything, as long as people keep on sending him cash he’ll rabble rouse from the sidelines it’s what he's best at.

Tech start up company, yeah right.

I didn't see any rabble rousing just clearly answered questions posed from the audience and the same at those posed by Fiona Bruce.

Farage has got as much to gain/lose as Swinson, she stands as much chance as Farage does of leading the country based on the polls (not that the polls are required for the Lib-Dems as a governing party), yet you've already stated she's the one you are voting for and based on her poor performance on ITV last night.
No one needs to send cash to Farage to vote for his party, any donations are purely voluntary just as they are for any other PP.

It will be interesting to see how the others Johnson/Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon perform under the same spotlight as Farage did last night.

Swinson is an MP, Farage is not and is too scared to try and become one, she has far more to lose, she is also the leader of a party who allows their members to vote her in or out of the position again not something Farage is willing to do.

Ive actually stated I don’t know who will get my vote as yet...........................

But you're fairly certain it will be the Lib-Dems

chrispmartha said:

Well I’m a floating voter as I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet and I don’t really have any party allegiance (although I couldn’t vote for anything to do with Nigel Farage), but I thought Jo Swinson would get my vote from tonights interviews/debates, won’t be popular on here I’m sure but that’s where I’m at at the moment.

Totally missing the start of the post where I say I haven’t decided who I am going to vote for.

I said that at the moment i’m thinking of Lib Dems that could all change when I see the manifesto no need to misrepresent what I wrote to try make some kind of point.

[AshVX220]

TTwiggy said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Was this on the same lefty-biased BBC that has a huge thread running on it's apparent bias?

Just watched the QT special from last over lunch, and to be fair, pretty much every questioner was an ardent remainer and a good few were actively aggressive towards NF, talking over him and not really giving him chance to answer. They just through countless points at him, simply put the usual sort that think talking over someone wins them the argument. An entirely anti NF aggressive audience really.

He still came out of it looking OK, certainly better than others, but as has been said., he has nothing to lose.

It seems to me, people dislike what they think he stands for, dislike what they're told he believes and don't ever actually listen to what he says.

[anonymous-user]

TheRealNoNeedy said:

And therein one post is all that is wrong with this country and why some people decided to go and live on a Caribbean island.

I dunno about some people but I did that for purely mercenary reasons. My well paid jail sentence looks likely to end quite soon. Paroled for good behavior. Good behaviour in this context means not setting fire to the Governor ‘s house (or at least not more than once).

[anonymous-user]

AshVX220 said:

It seems to me, people dislike what they think he stands for, dislike what they're told he believes and don't ever actually listen to what he says.

He stands for ignorance, falsehood, and racism. The things that he says include repeated lies on a variety of subjects, and that he does not want Romanians living in his street. The latter statement appears to be a rare example of a statement by Farage that is not a lie.

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I'm not the elected leader of a political party, and I have no plans to stand for election as an MP in December (and, as an aside, I wouldn't want Nigel Farage living on my street). I wonder if the BBC will give me a slot on primetime TV?

[Jinx]

Breadvan72 said:

AshVX220 said:

It seems to me, people dislike what they think he stands for, dislike what they're told he believes and don't ever actually listen to what he says.

He stands for ignorance, falsehood, and racism. The things that he says include repeated lies on a variety of subjects, and that he does not want Romanians living in his street. The latter statement appears to be a rare example of a statement by Farage that is not a lie.

QED

[don'tbesilly]

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Of course he would because he can spout anything he likes as he will never have to act upon anything, as long as people keep on sending him cash he’ll rabble rouse from the sidelines it’s what he's best at.

Tech start up company, yeah right.

I didn't see any rabble rousing just clearly answered questions posed from the audience and the same at those posed by Fiona Bruce.

Farage has got as much to gain/lose as Swinson, she stands as much chance as Farage does of leading the country based on the polls (not that the polls are required for the Lib-Dems as a governing party), yet you've already stated she's the one you are voting for and based on her poor performance on ITV last night.
No one needs to send cash to Farage to vote for his party, any donations are purely voluntary just as they are for any other PP.

It will be interesting to see how the others Johnson/Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon perform under the same spotlight as Farage did last night.

Swinson is an MP, Farage is not and is too scared to try and become one, she has far more to lose, she is also the leader of a party who allows their members to vote her in or out of the position again not something Farage is willing to do.

Ive actually stated I don’t know who will get my vote as yet...........................

But you're fairly certain it will be the Lib-Dems

chrispmartha said:

Well I’m a floating voter as I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet and I don’t really have any party allegiance (although I couldn’t vote for anything to do with Nigel Farage), but I thought Jo Swinson would get my vote from tonights interviews/debates, won’t be popular on here I’m sure but that’s where I’m at at the moment.

Totally missing the start of the post where I say I haven’t decided who I am going to vote for.

I said that at the moment i’m thinking of Lib Dems that could all change when I see the manifesto no need to misrepresent what I wrote to try make some kind of point.

I didn't miss the start of your post but focussed on the part of the post that formed a conclusion -

"but I thought Jo Swinson would get my vote from tonights interviews/debates"

I didn't misrepresent what you wrote at all.

[ChevyChase77]

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Yep. Farage came across really well and did well to correct those women who were intent on trying to mis-represent what he actually said.

• Population growth v Net Migration.

[chrispmartha]

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

chrispmartha said:

don'tbesilly said:

gooner1 said:

jsf said:

Farage smashed that on BBC1

Can't argue with that.

Best televised performance of the three.

Just watched it on iPlayer.

Sterling performance with every question answered with no dodging whatsoever.
I'd like to see Farage on a 1-1 with any of the others, he'd be far more convincing than any of them.

Of course he would because he can spout anything he likes as he will never have to act upon anything, as long as people keep on sending him cash he’ll rabble rouse from the sidelines it’s what he's best at.

Tech start up company, yeah right.

I didn't see any rabble rousing just clearly answered questions posed from the audience and the same at those posed by Fiona Bruce.

Farage has got as much to gain/lose as Swinson, she stands as much chance as Farage does of leading the country based on the polls (not that the polls are required for the Lib-Dems as a governing party), yet you've already stated she's the one you are voting for and based on her poor performance on ITV last night.
No one needs to send cash to Farage to vote for his party, any donations are purely voluntary just as they are for any other PP.

It will be interesting to see how the others Johnson/Corbyn/Swinson/Sturgeon perform under the same spotlight as Farage did last night.

Swinson is an MP, Farage is not and is too scared to try and become one, she has far more to lose, she is also the leader of a party who allows their members to vote her in or out of the position again not something Farage is willing to do.

Ive actually stated I don’t know who will get my vote as yet...........................

But you're fairly certain it will be the Lib-Dems

chrispmartha said:

Well I’m a floating voter as I haven’t decided who I’m going to vote for yet and I don’t really have any party allegiance (although I couldn’t vote for anything to do with Nigel Farage), but I thought Jo Swinson would get my vote from tonights interviews/debates, won’t be popular on here I’m sure but that’s where I’m at at the moment.

Totally missing the start of the post where I say I haven’t decided who I am going to vote for.

I said that at the moment i’m thinking of Lib Dems that could all change when I see the manifesto no need to misrepresent what I wrote to try make some kind of point.

I didn't miss the start of your post but focussed on the part of the post that formed a conclusion -

"but I thought Jo Swinson would get my vote from tonights interviews/debates"

I didn't misrepresent what you wrote at all.

Again missing out 'and that's where I'm at at the moment' as a follow on from 'I haven't decided who I am going to vote for yet' it is obvious I haven't fully made my mind up.

Your assertion that 'she is the one you are going to vote for' is incorrect.

So to clarify, based on last nights interviews/debates I am thinking of voting for Lib Dems but until I hear more from them and their manifesto I haven't decided who will get my vote in the election.

Is that OK with you?

[anonymous-user]

TheRealNoNeedy said:

Breadvan72 said:

TBP is, as pointed out repeatedly, not a political party in any meaningful sense. It is a business venture for Farage who is as many have observed a political heckler rather than a politician. He has nothing positive to offer on anything. He is just there to snipe and cause trouble, and to make himself rich by pandering to some of the worst opinions that people can hold.

And therein one post is all that is wrong with this country and why some people decided to go and live on a Caribbean island.

You don’t half talk some bks mate.

“All that is wrong with this country”

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Brooking10 said:

TheRealNoNeedy said:

Breadvan72 said:

TBP is, as pointed out repeatedly, not a political party in any meaningful sense. It is a business venture for Farage who is as many have observed a political heckler rather than a politician. He has nothing positive to offer on anything. He is just there to snipe and cause trouble, and to make himself rich by pandering to some of the worst opinions that people can hold.

And therein one post is all that is wrong with this country and why some people decided to go and live on a Caribbean island.

You don’t half talk some bks mate.

“All that is wrong with this country”

No, no, no. BV's post is clearly responsible for knife crime, the black hole in the NHS budget, falling standards in schools, corporate greed and everything else that's wrong with the country.