Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)
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El stovey said:
Unknown_User said:
Stigproducts said:
Farage is a master wind up merchant. he knows exactly what hes doing and he plays those remainers like a banjo. It's hilarious to watch.
I kind of agree with you but it's not the "remainers" he is playing to, it's the EDL, Brexitty gammon types that he is playing. The very same types that will be funding his next campaign with their £25 payments to faarange's Ltd company. The less well off that felt disenfranchised aren’t going to feel better after the economy continues to tank post furlough schemes ending.
Like any recession, the effects will be worse in the brexit supporting areas. Obviously now the EU and foreigners can’t be blamed so he’ll have to find a new bogeyman. I expect it will be to aim at the Tory handling of the pandemic and other general wokness and liberals, a sort of ranting at the modern world party fuelled by economic damage.
should be the new mantra, and about time.
El stovey said:
Yeah there’s still a possible future for farage in the economically damaged post covid U.K.
The less well off that felt disenfranchised aren’t going to feel better after the economy continues to tank post furlough schemes ending.
Like any recession, the effects will be worse in the brexit supporting areas. Obviously now the EU and foreigners can’t be blamed so he’ll have to find a new bogeyman. I expect it will be to aim at the Tory handling of the pandemic and other general wokness and liberals, a sort of ranting at the modern world party fuelled by economic damage.
You can see it already.The less well off that felt disenfranchised aren’t going to feel better after the economy continues to tank post furlough schemes ending.
Like any recession, the effects will be worse in the brexit supporting areas. Obviously now the EU and foreigners can’t be blamed so he’ll have to find a new bogeyman. I expect it will be to aim at the Tory handling of the pandemic and other general wokness and liberals, a sort of ranting at the modern world party fuelled by economic damage.
- BBC
- BLM
- Anything considered "Woke"
- Leftists
- Coronavirus handling and dead people v the economy
- Free Speech
- Pretty much anything in any of Don't Panic's posts that I may have overlooked
Where this thread becomes relevant is that there's a sort of person who will always find a way to monetise that.
El stovey said:
catweasle said:
El stovey said:
How has it improved your life? You STILL seem to be a reactionary old frother ranting about the EU and you’ve got your wish?
Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
You and you fellow Remain voting friends are the only ones I can see frothing. The only time this thread gets updated is when someone who voted to Remain resurrects it.Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
It’s not the EU, foreigners, metropolitan elites, the bbc etc fault you’re so miserable.
El stovey said:
crankedup said:
The Spruce Goose said:
crankedup said:
Just imagine if you will, Nigel had not been an MEP, the U.K. would almost certainly still be an EU
We can only dream.Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
Life improvement for me you ask, at this very early stage I can honestly tell you that an ambition fulfilled is deeply satisfying. That in itself adds an extra spring into my step, call it liberating that my Country is no longer shackled to the political barge of the EU.
catweasle said:
El stovey said:
How has it improved your life? You STILL seem to be a reactionary old frother ranting about the EU and you’ve got your wish?
Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
You and you fellow Remain voting friends are the only ones I can see frothing. The only time this thread gets updated is when someone who voted to Remain resurrects it.Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
Stop looking at the past and embrace the future.
El stovey said:
catweasle said:
El stovey said:
How has it improved your life? You STILL seem to be a reactionary old frother ranting about the EU and you’ve got your wish?
Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
You and you fellow Remain voting friends are the only ones I can see frothing. The only time this thread gets updated is when someone who voted to Remain resurrects it.Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
It’s not the EU, foreigners, metropolitan elites, the bbc etc fault you’re so miserable.
Didn't understand it when you didn't get the result you expected in 2016 and still doesn't understand it now
Perfectly happy here with the way things have turned out now the UK is no longer paying lip service to the result
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:El stovey said:
Yeah there’s still a possible future for farage in the economically damaged post covid U.K.
The less well off that felt disenfranchised aren’t going to feel better after the economy continues to tank post furlough schemes ending.
Like any recession, the effects will be worse in the brexit supporting areas. Obviously now the EU and foreigners can’t be blamed so he’ll have to find a new bogeyman. I expect it will be to aim at the Tory handling of the pandemic and other general wokness and liberals, a sort of ranting at the modern world party fuelled by economic damage.
You can see it already.The less well off that felt disenfranchised aren’t going to feel better after the economy continues to tank post furlough schemes ending.
Like any recession, the effects will be worse in the brexit supporting areas. Obviously now the EU and foreigners can’t be blamed so he’ll have to find a new bogeyman. I expect it will be to aim at the Tory handling of the pandemic and other general wokness and liberals, a sort of ranting at the modern world party fuelled by economic damage.
- BBC
- BLM
- Anything considered "Woke"
- Leftists
- Coronavirus handling and dead people v the economy
- Free Speech
- Pretty much anything in any of Don't Panic's posts that I may have overlooked
Where this thread becomes relevant is that there's a sort of person who will always find a way to monetise that.
That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
If he still had the taste of Trump in his mouth, I'm willing to give him a little leeway on seeking out a pint.
I hate Farage because I think he's a racist, but making a homophobic jibe at both Farage & Trump is perfectly acceptable because it's only Farage and TrumpThat appears to be your stance, but when and why is making homophobic comments about anybody acceptable?
This thread is hypocrisy heaven for some, it really doesn't matter what anyone writes about Farage, he's fair game, and using an emoji to justify the remark by suggesting it's a joke, doesn't detract from the blatant homophobia.
Apart from that, it's what a few would call a 'good post'
catweasle said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: We got there eventually didn't we
I made it perfectly clear yesterday that I'm happy for action to be taken against anyone who breaks the quarantine rules.
We disagree on the EU and Brexit and on Farage's politics.
Your wife is a nurse and has been working during the pandemic and you're in a vulnerable group as I recall from another thread.
There are people on this thread who give the impression that they're perfectly happy for Farage to have apparently broken the quarantine rules because it annoys people like me.
Maybe they're on a wind-up but personally I'd be asking them why they seem to be putting politics before the safety of the likes of you and your wife.
I'd hope we probably agree on that if you aren't too stubborn to say so.
I did type a long response but deleted it..............thanks for your concern about my and my wife's welfare however:I made it perfectly clear yesterday that I'm happy for action to be taken against anyone who breaks the quarantine rules.
We disagree on the EU and Brexit and on Farage's politics.
Your wife is a nurse and has been working during the pandemic and you're in a vulnerable group as I recall from another thread.
There are people on this thread who give the impression that they're perfectly happy for Farage to have apparently broken the quarantine rules because it annoys people like me.
Maybe they're on a wind-up but personally I'd be asking them why they seem to be putting politics before the safety of the likes of you and your wife.
I'd hope we probably agree on that if you aren't too stubborn to say so.
If he wasn't "Mr Brexit" nobody would take a blind bit of notice.
You can’t be a public figure and not be scrutinised
B'stard Child said:
El stovey said:
catweasle said:
El stovey said:
How has it improved your life? You STILL seem to be a reactionary old frother ranting about the EU and you’ve got your wish?
Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
You and you fellow Remain voting friends are the only ones I can see frothing. The only time this thread gets updated is when someone who voted to Remain resurrects it.Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
It’s not the EU, foreigners, metropolitan elites, the bbc etc fault you’re so miserable.
Didn't understand it when you didn't get the result you expected in 2016 and still doesn't understand it now
Perfectly happy here with the way things have turned out now the UK is no longer paying lip service to the result
It’s not about brexit vs remainers it’s about farage and his methods and how he gets support.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:gooner1 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:catweasle said:
I did type a long response but deleted it..............thanks for your concern about my and my wife's welfare however:
If he wasn't "Mr Brexit" nobody would take a blind bit of notice.
Possibly.If he wasn't "Mr Brexit" nobody would take a blind bit of notice.
I don't control what the media report but I don't know of any other politicians who have been reported as breaching the rules in the same way.
Show me a story reporting that Gina Miller or whoever you'd consider "arch remainer" has done the same thing and I guarantee you I won't be there finding ways to excuse it because she supported remain.
Politics is one thing but as I said we're in a pandemic and you'd hope people would put it to one side and be objective when they see these things reported.
Coronavirus won't ask you your opinion on the bloody EU.
Farage.
El stovey said:
B'stard Child said:
El stovey said:
catweasle said:
El stovey said:
How has it improved your life? You STILL seem to be a reactionary old frother ranting about the EU and you’ve got your wish?
Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
You and you fellow Remain voting friends are the only ones I can see frothing. The only time this thread gets updated is when someone who voted to Remain resurrects it.Maybe the EU wasn’t the source of your dissatisfaction after all?
It’s not the EU, foreigners, metropolitan elites, the bbc etc fault you’re so miserable.
Didn't understand it when you didn't get the result you expected in 2016 and still doesn't understand it now
Perfectly happy here with the way things have turned out now the UK is no longer paying lip service to the result
It’s not about brexit vs remainers it’s about farage and his methods and how he gets support.
All I see is angry remainers exercising their pent up angst and frustrations.
Perhaps this thread should be moved to the Health forum and treated as a boon for some but by no mean all Remain voters.
El stovey said:
Absolutely.
That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
When he left LBC there were media reports that Brexit Party members were sent surveys around what they'd like to see in the future including whether whether they would be happy to pay “a reasonable subscription”.That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/12786558...
El stovey said:
I’m not talking about all brexiters, all kinds of people voted for brexit for all kinds of reasons, me included,
just the angry old reactionaries constantly blaming everyone else for their problems.
I'm not seeing them in daily life or even on here - who are they and where can I find one?just the angry old reactionaries constantly blaming everyone else for their problems.
What I do see is this thread dragged up at every opportunity to stick the boot into Farage by a bunch of still grieving 2016 result deniers constantly blaming Farage for their problems because he dupped a small number of people into voting to leave.
Same with other threads on politicians they are equally tarred by PH'rs with same 2016 position be it leave or remain
El stovey said:
It’s not about brexit vs remainers it’s about farage and his methods and how he gets support.
Then please accept an apology because whilst I read above it's not how it comes across at all in previous posts by youUnfortunately May and her "leave in name only" made Farage relevant again (I include with May all politicians who publicly stated that they would respect the result and then attempted to do the exact opposite)
He's now irrelevant again IMO - just apart from to those who keep bumping the thread because he's s
t on the pavement (which is perfectly normal for a dog)What I don’t like about farage is the way he rabble rouses and creates unrest to further himself and his own cause. With his rhetoric and posters which is just old school racism in a suit hiding under a veneer of respectability.
He isn’t about unity and optimism and the future but about creating bogeymen for unhappy people to blame, much like most of the other despicable politicians of the past have done.
Farage didn’t go to well off parts of the country to explain the possible benefits of leaving the EU and promoting a positive future like Boris did, he spends all his time in poor areas pointing out the bad things and what they should be rejecting, creating unrest and unhappiness and divisions in society.
He isn’t about unity and optimism and the future but about creating bogeymen for unhappy people to blame, much like most of the other despicable politicians of the past have done.
Farage didn’t go to well off parts of the country to explain the possible benefits of leaving the EU and promoting a positive future like Boris did, he spends all his time in poor areas pointing out the bad things and what they should be rejecting, creating unrest and unhappiness and divisions in society.
El stovey said:
Farage didn’t go to well off parts of the country to explain the possible benefits of leaving the EU and promoting a positive future like Boris did, he spends all his time in poor areas pointing out the bad things and what they should be rejecting, creating unrest and unhappiness and divisions in society.
Could none of the Remainers bother their arses to go to those poor areas and undo the spell that Farage put on the simple minded?People love to insinuate that the old, poor, and thick, are just mindless peons who dance to the tune of whichever puppetmaster last played. Why couldn't Remain have a go at snakecharming?
Probably the same reason they lost. Arrogance; know your place peasants, and don't get any ideas above your station
El stovey said:
What I don’t like about farage is the way he rabble rouses and creates unrest to further himself and his own cause. With his rhetoric and posters which is just old school racism in a suit hiding under a veneer of respectability.
He isn’t about unity and optimism and the future but about creating bogeymen for unhappy people to blame, much like most of the other despicable politicians of the past have done.
Farage didn’t go to well off parts of the country to explain the possible benefits of leaving the EU and promoting a positive future like Boris did, he spends all his time in poor areas pointing out the bad things and what they should be rejecting, creating unrest and unhappiness and divisions in society.
Farage was the catalyst for us to leave the EU. Sure an element of the negatives of the past followers is bound to be present, as in all human kind not everything is a ‘rose garden’. Farage personal dreams is for him and him alone, most people will have worked out where their vote card was due and its reflected in the last GE. Given that it indicates the tiny minority that continue to support Farage. Brexit voters followed Farage for one reason only, he succeeded and so did the brexiteers. He isn’t about unity and optimism and the future but about creating bogeymen for unhappy people to blame, much like most of the other despicable politicians of the past have done.
Farage didn’t go to well off parts of the country to explain the possible benefits of leaving the EU and promoting a positive future like Boris did, he spends all his time in poor areas pointing out the bad things and what they should be rejecting, creating unrest and unhappiness and divisions in society.
I’m sorry but I read the rest of your postings as filled with loathing of the brexit, your post is all past tense, try to move on perhaps.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/...
''We find that voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment , infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction. ''
....''while Conservative supporters are more likely to support Leave.''
Farage knows his target market to sell to, selling the leave ideology to these types was a very easy sell.
''We find that voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment , infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction. ''
....''while Conservative supporters are more likely to support Leave.''
Farage knows his target market to sell to, selling the leave ideology to these types was a very easy sell.
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