Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)
Discussion
The Spruce Goose said:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/...
''We find that voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment , infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction. ''
....''while Conservative supporters are more likely to support Leave.''
Farage knows his target market to sell to, selling the leave ideology to these types was a very easy sell.
If the young voters had bothered to actually exercise their voting Right the result just might have been that the U.K. remained an EU Member. I expect they were to busy on their smartphones and internet, perhaps admiring their Degree’s with Honours proudly displayed on the bedroom wall. I wouldn’t know what the reasons for their apparent lack of interest was, but it did seem that they simply could’nt ‘be bothered’ to vote. ''We find that voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment , infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction. ''
....''while Conservative supporters are more likely to support Leave.''
Farage knows his target market to sell to, selling the leave ideology to these types was a very easy sell.
As with the followers of Farage, it takes all sorts of people with differing motivations.
Edited by crankedup on Sunday 5th July 12:18
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:El stovey said:
Absolutely.
That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
When he left LBC there were media reports that Brexit Party members were sent surveys around what they'd like to see in the future including whether whether they would be happy to pay “a reasonable subscription”.That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/12786558...
You and others seem obsessed with this £25.00 fee to become a member of the BP or make a donation.
The Tory Party want £25.00 to become a member and seek donations, Labour want £52.00 odd to become a member and seek donations, the Lib-dems want £76.00 to become a member and seek donations, the Greens and the SNP are no different.
Many who paid £25.00 to the BP did so to support their one goal, the goal that they voted for in 2016, anything else that Farage stood for was immaterial, the £25.00 wasn't a tacit acceptance of what Farage had said or done in the past, it was to support what they voted for/end.
The £25.00 was a good investment, as to deny that the donation worked would be ignorant to the consequences of what the result of the European elections led to, and I don't need to spell it out.
What is your problem with a Political Party wanting a membership fee or to seek donations?
The Tories are oft accused of Islamaphobia, yet it seems you don't have a problem with the Tories doing exactly what Farage is doing.
Labour are oft accused of antisemitism, yet it seems you don't have a problem with what the Labour Party does, which is no different to what Farage is doing.
Why in your opinion is supporting Farage seen as some sort of heinous crime to you and others, when other parties are arguably no better?
crankedup said:
The Spruce Goose said:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/...
''We find that voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment , infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction. ''
....''while Conservative supporters are more likely to support Leave.''
Farage knows his target market to sell to, selling the leave ideology to these types was a very easy sell.
If the young voters had bothered to actually exercise their voting Right the result just might have been that the U.K. remained an EU Member. I expect they were to busy on their smartphones and internet, perhaps admiring their Degree’s with Honours proudly displayed on the bedroom wall. I wouldn’t know what the reasons for their apparent lack of interest was, but it did seem that they simply could’nt ‘be bothered’ to vote. ''We find that voting Leave is associated with older age, white ethnicity, low educational attainment , infrequent use of smartphones and the internet, receiving benefits, adverse health and low life satisfaction. ''
....''while Conservative supporters are more likely to support Leave.''
Farage knows his target market to sell to, selling the leave ideology to these types was a very easy sell.
don'tbesilly said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:El stovey said:
Absolutely.
That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
When he left LBC there were media reports that Brexit Party members were sent surveys around what they'd like to see in the future including whether whether they would be happy to pay “a reasonable subscription”.That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/12786558...
You and others seem obsessed with this £25.00 fee to become a member of the BP or make a donation.
The Tory Party want £25.00 to become a member and seek donations, Labour want £52.00 odd to become a member and seek donations, the Lib-dems want £76.00 to become a member and seek donations, the Greens and the SNP are no different.
Many who paid £25.00 to the BP did so to support their one goal, the goal that they voted for in 2016, anything else that Farage stood for was immaterial, the £25.00 wasn't a tacit acceptance of what Farage had said or done in the past, it was to support what they voted for/end.
The £25.00 was a good investment, as to deny that the donation worked would be ignorant to the consequences of what the result of the European elections led to, and I don't need to spell it out.
What is your problem with a Political Party wanting a membership fee or to seek donations?
The Tories are oft accused of Islamaphobia, yet it seems you don't have a problem with the Tories doing exactly what Farage is doing.
Labour are oft accused of antisemitism, yet it seems you don't have a problem with what the Labour Party does, which is no different to what Farage is doing.
Why in your opinion is supporting Farage seen as some sort of heinous crime to you and others, when other parties are arguably no better?
don'tbesilly said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:El stovey said:
Absolutely.
That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
When he left LBC there were media reports that Brexit Party members were sent surveys around what they'd like to see in the future including whether whether they would be happy to pay “a reasonable subscription”.That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/12786558...
You and others seem obsessed with this £25.00 fee to become a member of the BP or make a donation.
The Tory Party want £25.00 to become a member and seek donations, Labour want £52.00 odd to become a member and seek donations, the Lib-dems want £76.00 to become a member and seek donations, the Greens and the SNP are no different.
Many who paid £25.00 to the BP did so to support their one goal, the goal that they voted for in 2016, anything else that Farage stood for was immaterial, the £25.00 wasn't a tacit acceptance of what Farage had said or done in the past, it was to support what they voted for/end.
The £25.00 was a good investment, as to deny that the donation worked would be ignorant to the consequences of what the result of the European elections led to, and I don't need to spell it out.
What is your problem with a Political Party wanting a membership fee or to seek donations?
The Tories are oft accused of Islamaphobia, yet it seems you don't have a problem with the Tories doing exactly what Farage is doing.
Labour are oft accused of antisemitism, yet it seems you don't have a problem with what the Labour Party does, which is no different to what Farage is doing.
Why in your opinion is supporting Farage seen as some sort of heinous crime to you and others, when other parties are arguably no better?
Show me where I've said I'm fine with paying for membership of other political parties?
I've been very clear that I think giving money to any political party is ill-advised for precisely the reasons you mention i.e. you align yourselves with them and your money pays for what they do.
Never have and never will.
It saves having to do mental gymnastics to persuade myself I haven't helped fund that st.
I've been very clear that I think giving money to any political party is ill-advised for precisely the reasons you mention i.e. you align yourselves with them and your money pays for what they do.
- You don't pay Labour for membership but get to say "Oh but my money didn't pay for the anti-semitic stuff that happened under Corbyn".
- You don't pay the Conservatives for membership but get say "Oh but my money didn't pay for the Islamophobic stuff and the things Johnson has said and written are nothing to do with me".
- You don't pay the Brexit Party for (non) membership (as it's a company) but get to say "Oh but my money didn't pay for any of the stuff Farage has done".
Never have and never will.
It saves having to do mental gymnastics to persuade myself I haven't helped fund that s
t.Unknown_User said:
I would be most grateful if you could explain how giving £25.00 to St Nige allows "membership"? I thought the donations went to his Limited Company?
I honestly don't care if he personally shoved it in his pockets - It was the only opportunity given to stop the attempts to "leave by staying in"Great picture by the way - makes me smile every time you post it
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Show me where I've said I'm fine with paying for membership of other political parties?
I've been very clear that I think giving money to any political party is ill-advised for precisely the reasons you mention i.e. you align yourselves with them and your money pays for what they do.
Never have and never will.
It saves having to do mental gymnastics to persuade myself I haven't helped fund that st.
Exactly, why pay any party?I've been very clear that I think giving money to any political party is ill-advised for precisely the reasons you mention i.e. you align yourselves with them and your money pays for what they do.
- You don't pay Labour for membership but get to say "Oh but my money didn't pay for the anti-semitic stuff that happened under Corbyn".
- You don't pay the Conservatives for membership but get say "Oh but my money didn't pay for the Islamophobic stuff and the things Johnson has said and written are nothing to do with me".
- You don't pay the Brexit Party for (non) membership (as it's a company) but get to say "Oh but my money didn't pay for any of the stuff Farage has done".
Never have and never will.
It saves having to do mental gymnastics to persuade myself I haven't helped fund that s
t.Just wait until the election and vote for the best option. You don’t have to join a party or give them, money.
Paying a party is like giving money to the church or some cult you’ve joined and promotes tribal allegiances and thinking.
Unknown_User said:
don'tbesilly said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:El stovey said:
Absolutely.
That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
When he left LBC there were media reports that Brexit Party members were sent surveys around what they'd like to see in the future including whether whether they would be happy to pay “a reasonable subscription”.That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/12786558...
You and others seem obsessed with this £25.00 fee to become a member of the BP or make a donation.
The Tory Party want £25.00 to become a member and seek donations, Labour want £52.00 odd to become a member and seek donations, the Lib-dems want £76.00 to become a member and seek donations, the Greens and the SNP are no different.
Many who paid £25.00 to the BP did so to support their one goal, the goal that they voted for in 2016, anything else that Farage stood for was immaterial, the £25.00 wasn't a tacit acceptance of what Farage had said or done in the past, it was to support what they voted for/end.
The £25.00 was a good investment, as to deny that the donation worked would be ignorant to the consequences of what the result of the European elections led to, and I don't need to spell it out.
What is your problem with a Political Party wanting a membership fee or to seek donations?
The Tories are oft accused of Islamaphobia, yet it seems you don't have a problem with the Tories doing exactly what Farage is doing.
Labour are oft accused of antisemitism, yet it seems you don't have a problem with what the Labour Party does, which is no different to what Farage is doing.
Why in your opinion is supporting Farage seen as some sort of heinous crime to you and others, when other parties are arguably no better?
It seems you have also arrived at the conclusion that the donations made have not been used for the purpose that the donations were sought for, so some kind of scam has occurred.
Have you notified the authorities?
Many did in the past in regards to anyone campaigning for leaving the European Union and ended up being spectacularly embarrassed, you either ignored the stories or were embarrassed yourself, because like on many things you were wrong.
Would you like to put up (support whatever point you're failing to make), or put very politely, shut up.
B'stard Child said:
Unknown_User said:
I would be most grateful if you could explain how giving £25.00 to St Nige allows "membership"? I thought the donations went to his Limited Company?
I honestly don't care if he personally shoved it in his pockets - It was the only opportunity given to stop the attempts to "leave by staying in"Great picture by the way - makes me smile every time you post it
El stovey said:
Exactly, why pay any party?
Just wait until the election and vote for the best option. You don’t have to join a party or give them, money.
Paying a party is like giving money to the church or some cult you’ve joined and promotes tribal allegiances and thinking.
Aren’t remain supporters much more generous in this regard?Just wait until the election and vote for the best option. You don’t have to join a party or give them, money.
Paying a party is like giving money to the church or some cult you’ve joined and promotes tribal allegiances and thinking.
Certainly the remain campaigns have had much deeper pockets and continued to spend huge sums post referendum.
El stovey said:
Exactly, why pay any party?
Just wait until the election and vote for the best option. You don’t have to join a party or give them, money.
Paying a party is like giving money to the church or some cult you’ve joined and promotes tribal allegiances and thinking.
It's something I really can't wrap my head around.Just wait until the election and vote for the best option. You don’t have to join a party or give them, money.
Paying a party is like giving money to the church or some cult you’ve joined and promotes tribal allegiances and thinking.
"I feel strongly enough the things this political party stands for to give them my money but when they use it to do something f
ked up I'll claim it was absolutely nothing to do with me and my money definitely didn't help fund it".El stovey said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Show me where I've said I'm fine with paying for membership of other political parties?
I've been very clear that I think giving money to any political party is ill-advised for precisely the reasons you mention i.e. you align yourselves with them and your money pays for what they do.
Never have and never will.
It saves having to do mental gymnastics to persuade myself I haven't helped fund that st.
Exactly, why pay any party?I've been very clear that I think giving money to any political party is ill-advised for precisely the reasons you mention i.e. you align yourselves with them and your money pays for what they do.
- You don't pay Labour for membership but get to say "Oh but my money didn't pay for the anti-semitic stuff that happened under Corbyn".
- You don't pay the Conservatives for membership but get say "Oh but my money didn't pay for the Islamophobic stuff and the things Johnson has said and written are nothing to do with me".
- You don't pay the Brexit Party for (non) membership (as it's a company) but get to say "Oh but my money didn't pay for any of the stuff Farage has done".
Never have and never will.
It saves having to do mental gymnastics to persuade myself I haven't helped fund that s
t.Just wait until the election and vote for the best option. You don’t have to join a party or give them, money.
Paying a party is like giving money to the church or some cult you’ve joined and promotes tribal allegiances and thinking.
| Party | Members | Supporters | % of Electorate |
| Labour Party | 580,000 | 1.27% | |
| Conservative Party | 180,000 | 0.39% | |
| SNP Party | 125,000 | 0.27% | |
| Liberal Party | 120,000 | 0.26% | |
| Brexit Party | 115,000 | 0.25% | |
| Green Party | 48,500 | 0.11% | |
| UKIP | 26,000 | 0.06% | |
| Plaid Cymru Party | 11,500 | 0.03% | |
| Total | 1,091,000 | 115,000 | 2.63% |
So effectively you are critical of a a very small minority of the country that are brainwashed into joining a cult
don'tbesilly said:
Unknown_User said:
don'tbesilly said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:El stovey said:
Absolutely.
That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
When he left LBC there were media reports that Brexit Party members were sent surveys around what they'd like to see in the future including whether whether they would be happy to pay “a reasonable subscription”.That sort just angry at the modern world.
I can see someone like farage being able to fire them up (even more) and take their money still in a post covid recession. These people like farage, Hopkins, Tommy Robinson always thrive on stirring up the unhappy and getting them to blame everyone else.
Pretty intoxicating to be able to make people look at ‘those others‘ and think it’s all someone else’s fault.
https://twitter.com/PrivateEyeNews/status/12786558...
You and others seem obsessed with this £25.00 fee to become a member of the BP or make a donation.
The Tory Party want £25.00 to become a member and seek donations, Labour want £52.00 odd to become a member and seek donations, the Lib-dems want £76.00 to become a member and seek donations, the Greens and the SNP are no different.
Many who paid £25.00 to the BP did so to support their one goal, the goal that they voted for in 2016, anything else that Farage stood for was immaterial, the £25.00 wasn't a tacit acceptance of what Farage had said or done in the past, it was to support what they voted for/end.
The £25.00 was a good investment, as to deny that the donation worked would be ignorant to the consequences of what the result of the European elections led to, and I don't need to spell it out.
What is your problem with a Political Party wanting a membership fee or to seek donations?
The Tories are oft accused of Islamaphobia, yet it seems you don't have a problem with the Tories doing exactly what Farage is doing.
Labour are oft accused of antisemitism, yet it seems you don't have a problem with what the Labour Party does, which is no different to what Farage is doing.
Why in your opinion is supporting Farage seen as some sort of heinous crime to you and others, when other parties are arguably no better?
It seems you have also arrived at the conclusion that the donations made have not been used for the purpose that the donations were sought for, so some kind of scam has occurred.
Have you notified the authorities?
Many did in the past in regards to anyone campaigning for leaving the European Union and ended up being spectacularly embarrassed, you either ignored the stories or were embarrassed yourself, because like on many things you were wrong.
Would you like to put up (support whatever point you're failing to make), or put very politely, shut up.
Why would I notify the authorities because you seem to believe you can pay to join Nige's Limited Company? I can only assume your local 'Spoons is open and you have been enjoying their hospitality for a number of hours. If you are in fact sober, then I apologise in advance for suggesting otherwise.
I think your response perfectly demonstrates how vulnerable folk get so easily duped by the despicable unscrupulous in our society.
Unknown_User said:
B'stard Child said:
Unknown_User said:
I would be most grateful if you could explain how giving £25.00 to St Nige allows "membership"? I thought the donations went to his Limited Company?
I honestly don't care if he personally shoved it in his pockets - It was the only opportunity given to stop the attempts to "leave by staying in"Great picture by the way - makes me smile every time you post it
B'stard Child said:
The good thing is that 97.3 % of the UK electorate agree with you
So effectively you are critical of a a very small minority of the country that are brainwashed into joining a cult
Quite. | Party | Members | Supporters | % of Electorate |
| Labour Party | 580,000 | 1.27% | |
| Conservative Party | 180,000 | 0.39% | |
| SNP Party | 125,000 | 0.27% | |
| Liberal Party | 120,000 | 0.26% | |
| Brexit Party | 115,000 | 0.25% | |
| Green Party | 48,500 | 0.11% | |
| UKIP | 26,000 | 0.06% | |
| Plaid Cymru Party | 11,500 | 0.03% | |
| Total | 1,091,000 | 115,000 | 2.63% |
So effectively you are critical of a a very small minority of the country that are brainwashed into joining a cult
As usual it’s the vocal minority and extremists causing all the problems.
The silent majority aren’t the brainwashed reactionary cultists as expected.
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