Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)

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Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Unknown_User said:
As already stated, my comment is clear. If you disagree with my insistence of clarity, then I welcome you to explain your obvious befuddlement.
Someone's had their Weetabix this morning. hehe

andymadmak

14,597 posts

271 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Unknown_User said:
As already stated, my comment is clear. If you disagree with my insistence of clarity, then I welcome you to explain your obvious befuddlement.

Maybe it is in fact you that should consider how you read comments of forums? Could it be possible that you have an overall negative outlook on life and due to this negativity, you read comments in a particularly negative and obtuse way?
rofl Oh my days PIHA. I have a lovely life, thanks. But thank you for asking, or should that be thank you for projecting? If only you were half as clever as you think you are, you'd be twice as clever as you appear.

What is it with folk like you, H123, MX5nut et al eh? You post something that you think is incisive, and then pretend that it means something else when you're called out on it. Do you struggle with the embarrassment of being held up to ridicule as often as you are?

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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jamoor said:
crankedup said:
jamoor said:
crankedup said:
The Spruce Goose said:
crankedup said:
Do I think Wetherspoons staff will return? Some will and some won’t, tbh I haven’t given it a moments thought. But I do hope the business can swiftly return to providing its clientele the service and return the business back to profitability.
i'm a fan of weatherperson luckily the one near me Uttoxeter is pretty good. I've stayed at the hotel in Worcester and think it is a great business. They have allowed people on not a lot of money to enjoy life a bit more, and the Government really should give the whole sector a break considering how hard it has been struck.
Tim Martin, as you know, formed the Company in 1979, and has grown the business into a multi-million pound successful business. Due for further expansion into the hotel sector, and yet owing to politics is denounced and belittled. This is a great shame on those that choose to take this line of attack, the Nation needs more entrepreneurs such as Martin, Dyson and Branson that will help take the U.K. forward.
If you don't want to be attacked don't make it political. Simple really.

Lots of organisations stay far away from politics for this reason. They work with whatever the agenda is for the day.
This is a major problem we have with the minority group which wish to rule by placard and twitter accounts. Just look at the quality of the attacks on individuals, in the main they are not politics against politics, the rebuffs are personal with the use of vile language and inferences of other means of confrontation. In the case of Tim Martin the business he founded has been used as a target as well as his customers.
What you have stated is, if you run a business do not dare to hold a political belief, if you do we will
vilify you. That i’m my view is disgusting behaviour and needs to be stopped.
Nope its criticism which is expected against the person and business which you open your business up to If you decide to publicise it.

No one stopping you holding your beliefs it’s just if it becomes a public one and you have a platform to share it you will be criticised for it. If you want to broadcast it on public television expect people to take notice, you can’t have it both ways.

Do you realise the hypocrisy in your statements?


Look at what happens to Ryanair
I’m not disputing that political opposition is fair game, in a democracy it’s essential. However, you seem to be missing the point I am trying to make, it is the standard of political discourse that I object to. Look back over many pages of the Farage and Wetherspoons posts to see the slanderous remarks are nothing to do with the politics.
No I don’t see the hypocrisy in my statements!

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Troubleatmill said:
A pub manager discriminated against Travellers.

And our resident "Burn the witch" squad try to lay the blame at the company's founder.

Pathetic really.
The legal representative (Solicitor) of the offended Gypsies in the ‘Wetherspoons case’, I know this person as a friend. Next time we come across each other I will have a chat about the case.
it was correct that the Company had action taken against them in this instance. One single badly handled situation by a single Manger of a pub does not make the Company racially institutionalised
of course. Yet we can read that a poster in here is happy to infer such by linking the Company to Mr
Farage with whom the same posters have explicitly inferred to be a racist in the past. Skating on very thin ice.

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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crankedup said:
jamoor said:
crankedup said:
jamoor said:
crankedup said:
The Spruce Goose said:
crankedup said:
Do I think Wetherspoons staff will return? Some will and some won’t, tbh I haven’t given it a moments thought. But I do hope the business can swiftly return to providing its clientele the service and return the business back to profitability.
i'm a fan of weatherperson luckily the one near me Uttoxeter is pretty good. I've stayed at the hotel in Worcester and think it is a great business. They have allowed people on not a lot of money to enjoy life a bit more, and the Government really should give the whole sector a break considering how hard it has been struck.
Tim Martin, as you know, formed the Company in 1979, and has grown the business into a multi-million pound successful business. Due for further expansion into the hotel sector, and yet owing to politics is denounced and belittled. This is a great shame on those that choose to take this line of attack, the Nation needs more entrepreneurs such as Martin, Dyson and Branson that will help take the U.K. forward.
If you don't want to be attacked don't make it political. Simple really.

Lots of organisations stay far away from politics for this reason. They work with whatever the agenda is for the day.
This is a major problem we have with the minority group which wish to rule by placard and twitter accounts. Just look at the quality of the attacks on individuals, in the main they are not politics against politics, the rebuffs are personal with the use of vile language and inferences of other means of confrontation. In the case of Tim Martin the business he founded has been used as a target as well as his customers.
What you have stated is, if you run a business do not dare to hold a political belief, if you do we will
vilify you. That i’m my view is disgusting behaviour and needs to be stopped.
Nope its criticism which is expected against the person and business which you open your business up to If you decide to publicise it.

No one stopping you holding your beliefs it’s just if it becomes a public one and you have a platform to share it you will be criticised for it. If you want to broadcast it on public television expect people to take notice, you can’t have it both ways.

Do you realise the hypocrisy in your statements?


Look at what happens to Ryanair
I’m not disputing that political opposition is fair game, in a democracy it’s essential. However, you seem to be missing the point I am trying to make, it is the standard of political discourse that I object to. Look back over many pages of the Farage and Wetherspoons posts to see the slanderous remarks are nothing to do with the politics.
No I don’t see the hypocrisy in my statements!
It's only slander if it isn't true.

If someone wants to be in the public eye they have to take all of the flak that goes with it, you can't silence people if they want to criticise the actions of an individual, for the same reason political opposition is fair game.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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El stovey said:
Trashy places get trashy customers.
You can't blame spoons for that.

TheMal28

82 posts

85 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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jamoor said:
El stovey said:
Trashy places get trashy customers.
You can't blame spoons for that.
Course you can.

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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jamoor said:
crankedup said:
jamoor said:
crankedup said:
jamoor said:
crankedup said:
The Spruce Goose said:
crankedup said:
Do I think Wetherspoons staff will return? Some will and some won’t, tbh I haven’t given it a moments thought. But I do hope the business can swiftly return to providing its clientele the service and return the business back to profitability.
i'm a fan of weatherperson luckily the one near me Uttoxeter is pretty good. I've stayed at the hotel in Worcester and think it is a great business. They have allowed people on not a lot of money to enjoy life a bit more, and the Government really should give the whole sector a break considering how hard it has been struck.
Tim Martin, as you know, formed the Company in 1979, and has grown the business into a multi-million pound successful business. Due for further expansion into the hotel sector, and yet owing to politics is denounced and belittled. This is a great shame on those that choose to take this line of attack, the Nation needs more entrepreneurs such as Martin, Dyson and Branson that will help take the U.K. forward.
If you don't want to be attacked don't make it political. Simple really.

Lots of organisations stay far away from politics for this reason. They work with whatever the agenda is for the day.
This is a major problem we have with the minority group which wish to rule by placard and twitter accounts. Just look at the quality of the attacks on individuals, in the main they are not politics against politics, the rebuffs are personal with the use of vile language and inferences of other means of confrontation. In the case of Tim Martin the business he founded has been used as a target as well as his customers.
What you have stated is, if you run a business do not dare to hold a political belief, if you do we will
vilify you. That i’m my view is disgusting behaviour and needs to be stopped.
Nope its criticism which is expected against the person and business which you open your business up to If you decide to publicise it.

No one stopping you holding your beliefs it’s just if it becomes a public one and you have a platform to share it you will be criticised for it. If you want to broadcast it on public television expect people to take notice, you can’t have it both ways.

Do you realise the hypocrisy in your statements?


Look at what happens to Ryanair
I’m not disputing that political opposition is fair game, in a democracy it’s essential. However, you seem to be missing the point I am trying to make, it is the standard of political discourse that I object to. Look back over many pages of the Farage and Wetherspoons posts to see the slanderous remarks are nothing to do with the politics.
No I don’t see the hypocrisy in my statements!
It's only slander if it isn't true.

If someone wants to be in the public eye they have to take all of the flak that goes with it, you can't silence people if they want to criticise the actions of an individual, for the same reason political opposition is fair game.
, twice now I have mentioned that my pov relates to the quality , or lack of, from certain persons and groups intent on using language and increments against individuals and Companies. Once again I will state that it is not the fact that opposition is obvious and not objected to, but the lack of quality which amounts to bully boy tactics and not addressing the points made. I don’t expect you to understand as you have glossed over several times already, but I am giving it one more go.
Where have I indicated I wish ‘to silence people’ , please refrain from lies.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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El stovey said:
Will be the 'Oh Tommy Tommy' brigade again?

bitchstewie

51,414 posts

211 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
Will be the 'Oh Tommy Tommy' brigade again?
Not Spoon's day for news coverage.

Woman attacks NHS care worker and her friends in Wetherspoons pub brawl for speaking too loudly in Polish on Super Saturday after telling her: 'You're in England now'

Do we know anyone who feels "awkward" when they hear foreign voices spoken scratchchin

And yes I know it's not Farage or Tim Martin's fault and I'm only posting it here because it seems to have got onto a discussion about Spoon's who I hope come through the pandemic very well for all their staffs sakes.

barryrs

4,392 posts

224 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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How come only spoons gets a mention?

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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TheMal28 said:
jamoor said:
El stovey said:
Trashy places get trashy customers.
You can't blame spoons for that.
Course you can.
You can blame any person or business, but be ready to be countered if you bad mouth and wrong in doing so. In this case the abusers had already been thrown out of the pub and the abuse took place outside (not in the premises apparently). The victims were also abused by the same offenders
at other locations. Makes the story very more factual and very much less pointy finger at Wetherspoons. Good to see Wetherspoons offer an apology even though the event was not on their premises.

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

93 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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crankedup said:
TheMal28 said:
jamoor said:
El stovey said:
Trashy places get trashy customers.
You can't blame spoons for that.
Course you can.
You can blame any person or business, but be ready to be countered if you bad mouth and wrong in doing so. In this case the abusers had already been thrown out of the pub and the abuse took place outside (not in the premises apparently). The victims were also abused by the same offenders
at other locations. Makes the story very more factual and very much less pointy finger at Wetherspoons. Good to see Wetherspoons offer an apology even though the event was not on their premises.
Crankie - Are you an investor in The 'Spoons?

jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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TheMal28 said:
jamoor said:
El stovey said:
Trashy places get trashy customers.
You can't blame spoons for that.
Course you can.
Yep, true hehe

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

158 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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I've never been in a Spoons, what delights am I missing?




jamoor

14,506 posts

216 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
I've never been in a Spoons, what delights am I missing?
Search wetherspoons fights in youtube!

Unknown_User

7,150 posts

93 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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bhstewie said:
Helicopter123 said:
Will be the 'Oh Tommy Tommy' brigade again?
Not Spoon's day for news coverage.

Woman attacks NHS care worker and her friends in Wetherspoons pub brawl for speaking too loudly in Polish on Super Saturday after telling her: 'You're in England now'

Do we know anyone who feels "awkward" when they hear foreign voices spoken scratchchin

And yes I know it's not Farage or Tim Martin's fault and I'm only posting it here because it seems to have got onto a discussion about Spoon's who I hope come through the pandemic very well for all their staffs sakes.
Just hang on a minute, you do know that it is illegal to serve alcohol to someone that is already drunk?

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2016/0...

Therefore, if the drunken racist abusers weren't drunk when they entered The 'Spoons, then Tim might possibly be at fault, seeing as he founded the company!

I too hope that everyone employed at The 'Spoons keeps their jobs and the company thrives in the future but they do seem to attract some very questionable clientele. I wonder why?

don'tbesilly

13,939 posts

164 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Unknown_User said:
crankedup said:
TheMal28 said:
jamoor said:
El stovey said:
Trashy places get trashy customers.
You can't blame spoons for that.
Course you can.
You can blame any person or business, but be ready to be countered if you bad mouth and wrong in doing so. In this case the abusers had already been thrown out of the pub and the abuse took place outside (not in the premises apparently). The victims were also abused by the same offenders
at other locations. Makes the story very more factual and very much less pointy finger at Wetherspoons. Good to see Wetherspoons offer an apology even though the event was not on their premises.
Crankie - Are you an investor in The 'Spoons?
I am but haven't been in one since the early 2000's.

The last visit was to the Winter Gardens in Harrogate, a stunning place, well worth a visit.



SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Unknown_User said:
bhstewie said:
Helicopter123 said:
Will be the 'Oh Tommy Tommy' brigade again?
Not Spoon's day for news coverage.

Woman attacks NHS care worker and her friends in Wetherspoons pub brawl for speaking too loudly in Polish on Super Saturday after telling her: 'You're in England now'

Do we know anyone who feels "awkward" when they hear foreign voices spoken scratchchin

And yes I know it's not Farage or Tim Martin's fault and I'm only posting it here because it seems to have got onto a discussion about Spoon's who I hope come through the pandemic very well for all their staffs sakes.
Just hang on a minute, you do know that it is illegal to serve alcohol to someone that is already drunk?

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Article/2016/0...

Therefore, if the drunken racist abusers weren't drunk when they entered The 'Spoons, then Tim might possibly be at fault, seeing as he founded the company!
Desperate. Have you been in a pub? It's going to blow your mind.

Unknown_User said:
I too hope that everyone employed at The 'Spoons keeps their jobs and the company thrives in the future but they do seem to attract some very questionable clientele. I wonder why?
Because it's cheap.

Then again, I bet that restaurant where Saatchi was throttling Nigella wasn't very cheap, so perhaps it's a bit rash to generalise.