Nigel Farage Launches New Brexit Party (Vol. 2)
Discussion
Stigproducts said:
chrispmartha said:
Troubleatmill said:
Whatever the resolution is, the Brexit Party should abstain.
We are leaving the EU.
And as much as I joke about setting fire alarms off etc etc
We just let the EU get on with it without us.
If we show that we are really keen to vote .... we will never leave.
There is nothing contemptible about it.
If we are leaving - then meddling in their affairs is contemptible.
They will have to deal with the decisions made.
We should not be voting in those decisions.
I’m presuming if they are not going to bother to do the job they were elected to do then they won’t take the salary, expenses and pensions then?We are leaving the EU.
And as much as I joke about setting fire alarms off etc etc
We just let the EU get on with it without us.
If we show that we are really keen to vote .... we will never leave.
There is nothing contemptible about it.
If we are leaving - then meddling in their affairs is contemptible.
They will have to deal with the decisions made.
We should not be voting in those decisions.
bhstewie said:
The excuse making is predictable and a bit sad if I'm honest.
She's a British citizen and no Iran won't care.
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Farage.
I suspect not.
At least we can't accuse the EU of cheap political stunts ... so far its cost billions ...!!She's a British citizen and no Iran won't care.
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Farage.
I suspect not.
bhstewie said:
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Faragethe EU.
The last thing I'd want is their profile raising by an organisation with zero diplomatic or military weight.This isn't some cheap political point either, it's part of a consistent position and the entire raison d'être of the EU's largest party.
bhstewie said:
The excuse making is predictable and a bit sad if I'm honest.
She's a British citizen and no Iran won't care.
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Farage.
I suspect not.
It looks like the thing the BP just can’t stand is the idea of the EU doing something to help the UK.She's a British citizen and no Iran won't care.
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Farage.
I suspect not.
They wouldn’t want any association with that.
Utter tts the lot of them.
768 said:
bhstewie said:
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Faragethe EU.
The last thing I'd want is their profile raising by an organisation with zero diplomatic or military weight.This isn't some cheap political point either, it's part of a consistent position and the entire raison d'être of the EU's largest party.
Simply because you don't agree with the EU as a political body.
It's not something I'd be comfortable saying if it was one of my family in that situation but little surprises me so I'll take your word on it.
Stigproducts said:
chrispmartha said:
Troubleatmill said:
Whatever the resolution is, the Brexit Party should abstain.
We are leaving the EU.
And as much as I joke about setting fire alarms off etc etc
We just let the EU get on with it without us.
If we show that we are really keen to vote .... we will never leave.
There is nothing contemptible about it.
If we are leaving - then meddling in their affairs is contemptible.
They will have to deal with the decisions made.
We should not be voting in those decisions.
I’m presuming if they are not going to bother to do the job they were elected to do then they won’t take the salary, expenses and pensions then?We are leaving the EU.
And as much as I joke about setting fire alarms off etc etc
We just let the EU get on with it without us.
If we show that we are really keen to vote .... we will never leave.
There is nothing contemptible about it.
If we are leaving - then meddling in their affairs is contemptible.
They will have to deal with the decisions made.
We should not be voting in those decisions.
DeepEnd said:
It looks like the thing the BP just can’t stand is the idea of the EU doing something to help the UK.
They wouldn’t want any association with that.
Utter tts the lot of them.
Honestly it's just a bit weird.They wouldn’t want any association with that.
Utter tts the lot of them.
Not even "We don't support the EU but we realise that supporting the rights of British citizens has to come first".
Just excuses all round.
Shameful.
bhstewie said:
Honestly it's just a bit weird.
Not even "We don't support the EU but we realise that supporting the rights of British citizens has to come first".
Just excuses all round.
Shameful.
Since when has Farage cared about the UK or any citizen?Not even "We don't support the EU but we realise that supporting the rights of British citizens has to come first".
Just excuses all round.
Shameful.
He has only one goal, for the UK to leave the EU. and any collateral damage of that is immaterial to him. His sycophant MEP's are adopting the same approach.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Since when has Farage cared about the UK or any citizen?
He has only one goal, for the UK to leave the EU. and any collateral damage of that is immaterial to him. His sycophant MEP's are adopting the same approach.
It’s telling that they have all abstained. He has only one goal, for the UK to leave the EU. and any collateral damage of that is immaterial to him. His sycophant MEP's are adopting the same approach.
Not a decent bone between them. The brexit party is a moral vacuum.
bhstewie said:
DeepEnd said:
It looks like the thing the BP just can’t stand is the idea of the EU doing something to help the UK.
They wouldn’t want any association with that.
Utter tts the lot of them.
Honestly it's just a bit weird.They wouldn’t want any association with that.
Utter tts the lot of them.
Not even "We don't support the EU but we realise that supporting the rights of British citizens has to come first".
Just excuses all round.
Shameful.
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Since when has Farage cared about the UK or any citizen?
He has only one goal, for the UK to leave the EU. and any collateral damage of that is immaterial to him. His sycophant MEP's are adopting the same approach.
We both know that.He has only one goal, for the UK to leave the EU. and any collateral damage of that is immaterial to him. His sycophant MEP's are adopting the same approach.
I think this is a bit of a new low even for Farage.
Maybe it's been their position on other similar votes under the toxic for a reason UKIP brand and they weren't as well publicised so who knows.
I'm surprised that we have posters who, were it their family or loved ones, would actively encourage the EU not to vote or show support.
And if the EU did show support they are endorsing UK MEPs abstaining rather than asking that they back a vote in support of a British citizen.
The more I think about that the more baffling that people are excusing it.
bhstewie said:
We both know that.
I think this is a bit of a new low even for Farage.
Maybe it's been their position on other similar votes under the toxic for a reason UKIP brand and they weren't as well publicised so who knows.
I'm surprised that we have posters who, were it their family or loved ones, would actively encourage the EU not to vote or show support.
And if the EU did show support they are endorsing UK MEPs abstaining rather than asking that they back a vote in support of a British citizen.
The more I think about that the more baffling that people are excusing it.
Remainer using a British citizen in captivity to advance their anti brexit agenda... Hilarious... I think this is a bit of a new low even for Farage.
Maybe it's been their position on other similar votes under the toxic for a reason UKIP brand and they weren't as well publicised so who knows.
I'm surprised that we have posters who, were it their family or loved ones, would actively encourage the EU not to vote or show support.
And if the EU did show support they are endorsing UK MEPs abstaining rather than asking that they back a vote in support of a British citizen.
The more I think about that the more baffling that people are excusing it.
Vanden Saab said:
Remainer using a British citizen in captivity to advance their anti brexit agenda... Hilarious...
People will have to form their own view on that one.Keep in mind that we wouldn't even be discussing it were it not for the behaviour of the Brexit Party.
I'd suggest it's not about leave or remain and simply about what behaviour do you expect of MEPs representing the UK.
bhstewie said:
The excuse making is predictable and a bit sad if I'm honest.
She's a British citizen and no Iran won't care.
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Farage.
I suspect not.
If any of my loved ones went to Iran, tough st. It's not hard to work out what countries should be avoided.She's a British citizen and no Iran won't care.
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Farage.
I suspect not.
768 said:
bhstewie said:
But ask yourself if it was one of your loved ones if you'd be happy at them being used for a cheap political stunt by Faragethe EU.
The last thing I'd want is their profile raising by an organisation with zero diplomatic or military weight.Regardless - to have voted would have literally cost the BP nothing. Abstaining is the sign of a bunch of selfish wkers.
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