Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 2)

Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 2)

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digimeistter

4,991 posts

156 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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mx5nut said:
digimeistter said:
It really is Parliament Vs The Electorate now.
Parliament was elected since the referendum. Grow up.
You really are rather thick aren't you.



vonuber

12,440 posts

112 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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digimeistter said:
It Is and will be.
It isn't and won't be.

turbobloke

86,705 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Leicester Loyal said:
biggrinbiggrin Hasn't he just had his deal approved for second reading?
A majority of 30 was it not?

Voight Kampff

5,329 posts

107 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Tankrizzo said:
Leicester Loyal said:
biggrinbiggrin Hasn't he just had his deal approved for second reading?
The Nut never sees things like that, they're gaps in his vision like Bernard from Westworld. "It doesn't look like anything to me".
LOL, I get that!

digimeistter

4,991 posts

156 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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vonuber said:
digimeistter said:
It Is and will be.
It isn't and won't be.
Please expand on your theory rolleyes


amgmcqueen

1,581 posts

97 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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"Make no mistake, we're leaving the EU on October 31st. No ifs, no buts.....do or die".

The fat charlatan has failed. He should step down surely?

jsf

14,431 posts

183 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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amgmcqueen said:
"Make no mistake, we're leaving the EU on October 31st. No ifs, no buts.....do or die".

The fat charlatan has failed. He should step down surely?
He is only just getting started.

mx5nut

3,630 posts

29 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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amgmcqueen said:
"Make no mistake, we're leaving the EU on October 31st. No ifs, no buts.....do or die".

The fat charlatan has failed. He should step down surely?
All he cares about is clinging on to power. He has no shame as long as he can stay in No. 10.

vonuber

12,440 posts

112 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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digimeistter said:
Please expand on your theory rolleyes
Why? You made the statement first based on absolutely nothing. I can do this pointless back and forth all night - I had a 20 minute stand off with my 2 year old about her clearing up her jigsaw, so this is nothing.

Alpinestars

13,031 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Leicester Loyal said:
biggrinbiggrin Hasn't he just had his deal approved for second reading?
Is he still playing a blinder?

Gargamel

12,110 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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amgmcqueen said:
"Make no mistake, we're leaving the EU on October 31st. No ifs, no buts.....do or die".

The fat charlatan has failed. He should step down surely?
Are you one of those people who also spent weeks saying Boris would never get a new deal from the EU and that No deal was the plan all along.

So far Boris has done pretty much what he said he would do. If he doesn’t have the numbers to carry the vote or amendments get made, I don’t think those people that voted to leave the EU will be blaming Boris, do you ?


Alpinestars

13,031 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Gargamel said:
amgmcqueen said:
"Make no mistake, we're leaving the EU on October 31st. No ifs, no buts.....do or die".

The fat charlatan has failed. He should step down surely?
Are you one of those people who also spent weeks saying Boris would never get a new deal from the EU and that No deal was the plan all along.

So far Boris has done pretty much what he said he would do. If he doesn’t have the numbers to carry the vote or amendments get made, I don’t think those people that voted to leave the EU will be blaming Boris, do you ?
Yep, he’s not requested an extension*, and he’ll get Brexit done by 31 October**

Small print:
  • HE didn’t request an extension.
  • he didn’t say which year.

Leicester Loyal

1,371 posts

69 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Alpinestars said:
Is he still playing a blinder?
Yep. 37% in the polls today. Labour on 22% and Lib Dems on 19%. Brexit Party on 11%.

Be nice if some of those BP voters would swap to Cons.

Leicester Loyal

1,371 posts

69 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Gargamel said:
Are you one of those people who also spent weeks saying Boris would never get a new deal from the EU and that No deal was the plan all along.

So far Boris has done pretty much what he said he would do. If he doesn’t have the numbers to carry the vote or amendments get made, I don’t think those people that voted to leave the EU will be blaming Boris, do you ?
Plenty like that in here. The same ones who said he was a liar for claiming he'd get a deal have been silent and calling him a liar for other stuff ever since.

Obviously no other politician has ever lied or not stood up to their word...

Alpinestars

13,031 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Leicester Loyal said:
Alpinestars said:
Is he still playing a blinder?
Yep. 37% in the polls today. Labour on 22% and Lib Dems on 19%. Brexit Party on 11%.

Be nice if some of those BP voters would swap to Cons.
It’s just too difficult to admit you were wrong isn’t it.

It’s this kind of entrenchment that leads to the problems we are seeing.

Derek Smith

34,796 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Gargamel said:
Are you one of those people who also spent weeks saying Boris would never get a new deal from the EU and that No deal was the plan all along.

So far Boris has done pretty much what he said he would do. If he doesn’t have the numbers to carry the vote or amendments get made, I don’t think those people that voted to leave the EU will be blaming Boris, do you ?
By returning with a slightly modified, and some might say worse, offer that May did. He also stated that a border in the Irish Sea was a non-starter.

Johnson isn't going for a deal. He's not going for a hard brexit either. He's trying to get elected. All this faffing about is nothing more that grandstanding. He does not care, one way or the other. All he wants to do is come out of it with praise, whatever happens. And, it seems, he might well do just that.

As you say, the leavers won't blame him, even if we don't leave. He's got them convinced he's got a plan, one over and about clinging onto power.


Alpinestars

13,031 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Leicester Loyal said:
Plenty like that in here. The same ones who said he was a liar for claiming he'd get a deal have been silent and calling him a liar for other stuff ever since.

Obviously no other politician has ever lied or not stood up to their word...
Oh look over there at that liar, which means my liar isn’t really a liar. Trump/Boris playbook 101.

mx5nut

3,630 posts

29 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Derek Smith said:
Gargamel said:
Are you one of those people who also spent weeks saying Boris would never get a new deal from the EU and that No deal was the plan all along.

So far Boris has done pretty much what he said he would do. If he doesn’t have the numbers to carry the vote or amendments get made, I don’t think those people that voted to leave the EU will be blaming Boris, do you ?
By returning with a slightly modified, and some might say worse, offer that May did. He also stated that a border in the Irish Sea was a non-starter.
yes

As it turns out, it's rather straightforward to get a partner to re-open negotiations exclusively for you to make further concessions.

He just hoped to rush it all through before his fans, happy to believe that it must be a deal that hurts the EU and benefits us "because Boris", realised the reality.

Alpinestars

13,031 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Derek Smith said:
By returning with a slightly modified, and some might say worse, offer that May did. He also stated that a border in the Irish Sea was a non-starter.

Johnson isn't going for a deal. He's not going for a hard brexit either. He's trying to get elected. All this faffing about is nothing more that grandstanding. He does not care, one way or the other. All he wants to do is come out of it with praise, whatever happens. And, it seems, he might well do just that.

As you say, the leavers won't blame him, even if we don't leave. He's got them convinced he's got a plan, one over and about clinging onto power.
It’s all about power. But let’s not pretend there’s a strategy in there somewhere that’s worked. Almost whoever stands for the conservatives would win an election (imv), because Corbyn is unelectable. Boris desperately wanted to get us out so that he would be held up as some sort of hero. He will now focus his attention on winning an election to save face.

May should have made him Brexit secretary from the get go, to allow him to fail earlier.

Gargamel

12,110 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd October
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Derek Smith said:
Gargamel said:
Are you one of those people who also spent weeks saying Boris would never get a new deal from the EU and that No deal was the plan all along.

So far Boris has done pretty much what he said he would do. If he doesn’t have the numbers to carry the vote or amendments get made, I don’t think those people that voted to leave the EU will be blaming Boris, do you ?
By returning with a slightly modified, and some might say worse, offer that May did. He also stated that a border in the Irish Sea was a non-starter.

Johnson isn't going for a deal. He's not going for a hard brexit either. He's trying to get elected. All this faffing about is nothing more that grandstanding. He does not care, one way or the other. All he wants to do is come out of it with praise, whatever happens. And, it seems, he might well do just that.

As you say, the leavers won't blame him, even if we don't leave. He's got them convinced he's got a plan, one over and about clinging onto power.
All fair comment, I think most politicians are trying to get elected, it is kind of the job. The current HoC isn’t exactly overburdened with high minded principled individuals.

There seems to be a lot of vitriol for BJ, and I am not sure exactly why, the whole situation is a buggers muddle. I guess there is a sense of rhetoric meets reality with Boris, but I kind of factor that in.