Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 2)
Discussion
digimeistter said:
Unbelievable quite frankly!
This whole sorry saga is because people actually believe our economy will collapse outside the EU, I mean really?
2 Prime Ministers, possibly 3, the Country paralysed by w
kers infighting in Parliament and now I'm going to have to vote at Xmas (if that happens)
We are a laughing stock.
All because EU, which has now become a religion to some it appears.
The only 'religion' around here seems to be brexit - it's remarkably faith based.This whole sorry saga is because people actually believe our economy will collapse outside the EU, I mean really?
2 Prime Ministers, possibly 3, the Country paralysed by w
kers infighting in Parliament and now I'm going to have to vote at Xmas (if that happens)We are a laughing stock.
All because EU, which has now become a religion to some it appears.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: 3 years of this st and you don't understand my negativity? 
Corbyn isn't fit for office and his party position is a joke.
Johnson isn't fit for the office and his party have absolutely zero principles for anything other than power.
Johnson knows he can win a General Election yet a General Election should be about so much more than Brexit.
As highlighted by the very simple question of who should a Conservative voter who wishes to remain in the EU vote for in a General Election?
So yes, 3 years of a self-inflicted wound and no obvious way out of it and I do sometimes feel rather negative.
Struggling to see how I should be jumping for joy.
Maybe you have been too involved with all this crap since 2016? Are you one of our elected MP's? I don't think so but you apparently have wrestled with this nonsense and driven yourself to distraction. I can understand your frustration in that case!t and you don't understand my negativity? Corbyn isn't fit for office and his party position is a joke.
Johnson isn't fit for the office and his party have absolutely zero principles for anything other than power.
Johnson knows he can win a General Election yet a General Election should be about so much more than Brexit.
As highlighted by the very simple question of who should a Conservative voter who wishes to remain in the EU vote for in a General Election?
So yes, 3 years of a self-inflicted wound and no obvious way out of it and I do sometimes feel rather negative.
Struggling to see how I should be jumping for joy.
I always thought this would go down to the wire and whilst I have followed the to and fro of the Brexit or not shenanigans we, the people, have no further influence since our decision in 2016 to leave and have expected that our Govt, who were elected in 2017 on a clear manifesto, to negotiate the best deal they could achieve with the EU. Notwithstanding the tactics by those who wish to overturn the result, the Govt has brought 2 WA's to Parliament and we now have a chance to get this done.
You, of course, may be correct with your negativity but I do hope, along with the majority (I believe) that we can move on.
pequod said:
Maybe you have been too involved with all this crap since 2016? Are you one of our elected MP's? I don't think so but you apparently have wrestled with this nonsense and driven yourself to distraction. I can understand your frustration in that case!
I always thought this would go down to the wire and whilst I have followed the to and fro of the Brexit or not shenanigans we, the people, have no further influence since our decision in 2016 to leave and have expected that our Govt, who were elected in 2017 on a clear manifesto, to negotiate the best deal they could achieve with the EU. Notwithstanding the tactics by those who wish to overturn the result, the Govt has brought 2 WA's to Parliament and we now have a chance to get this done.
You, of course, may be correct with your negativity but I do hope, along with the majority (I believe) that we can move on.
You lose nuance on a forum.I always thought this would go down to the wire and whilst I have followed the to and fro of the Brexit or not shenanigans we, the people, have no further influence since our decision in 2016 to leave and have expected that our Govt, who were elected in 2017 on a clear manifesto, to negotiate the best deal they could achieve with the EU. Notwithstanding the tactics by those who wish to overturn the result, the Govt has brought 2 WA's to Parliament and we now have a chance to get this done.
You, of course, may be correct with your negativity but I do hope, along with the majority (I believe) that we can move on.
So yes, it's difficult to see too many positives but equally I'm not sitting here rocking back and forth because we're leaving the EU.
vonuber said:
digimeistter said:
Unbelievable quite frankly!
This whole sorry saga is because people actually believe our economy will collapse outside the EU, I mean really?
2 Prime Ministers, possibly 3, the Country paralysed by wkers infighting in Parliament and now I'm going to have to vote at Xmas (if that happens)
We are a laughing stock.
All because EU, which has now become a religion to some it appears.
The only 'religion' around here seems to be brexit - it's remarkably faith based.This whole sorry saga is because people actually believe our economy will collapse outside the EU, I mean really?
2 Prime Ministers, possibly 3, the Country paralysed by w
kers infighting in Parliament and now I'm going to have to vote at Xmas (if that happens)We are a laughing stock.
All because EU, which has now become a religion to some it appears.
Nickgnome said:
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I’m not aware that the governments assessments state our economy will collapse. Itwill may however suffer from relatively (compared to if we hadn't left) constrained growth. But all forecasts still see us growing...
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Being erudite and no doubt in a rush to go visit your many like minded friends, I can only assume you missed the items (tweaked/bolded above) in your haste to reply.I’m not aware that the governments assessments state our economy will collapse. It
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Don't forget to check how green their grass is while you're there
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:pequod said:
Maybe you have been too involved with all this crap since 2016? Are you one of our elected MP's? I don't think so but you apparently have wrestled with this nonsense and driven yourself to distraction. I can understand your frustration in that case!
I always thought this would go down to the wire and whilst I have followed the to and fro of the Brexit or not shenanigans we, the people, have no further influence since our decision in 2016 to leave and have expected that our Govt, who were elected in 2017 on a clear manifesto, to negotiate the best deal they could achieve with the EU. Notwithstanding the tactics by those who wish to overturn the result, the Govt has brought 2 WA's to Parliament and we now have a chance to get this done.
You, of course, may be correct with your negativity but I do hope, along with the majority (I believe) that we can move on.
You lose nuance on a forum.I always thought this would go down to the wire and whilst I have followed the to and fro of the Brexit or not shenanigans we, the people, have no further influence since our decision in 2016 to leave and have expected that our Govt, who were elected in 2017 on a clear manifesto, to negotiate the best deal they could achieve with the EU. Notwithstanding the tactics by those who wish to overturn the result, the Govt has brought 2 WA's to Parliament and we now have a chance to get this done.
You, of course, may be correct with your negativity but I do hope, along with the majority (I believe) that we can move on.
So yes, it's difficult to see too many positives but equally I'm not sitting here rocking back and forth because we're leaving the EU.
digimeistter said:
Indeed!
However, you clearly think continued paralysis of the economy outweighs a potential 5% drop in GDP (worst case)
Remind me never to take financial advice from you please, there's a good chap
There you go again. Where have I advocated continued paralysis. In fact if you read my posts in detail you will have seen that I suggested we need to get the bill through committee and suggested 6 weeks. Hardly long is it. However, you clearly think continued paralysis of the economy outweighs a potential 5% drop in GDP (worst case)
Remind me never to take financial advice from you please, there's a good chap
Why would I give you financial advice. We are the ones who have maxed out our pension pots, in fact my partner has to reduce hers to stay within the reduced limit. I wonder if you will be there when you hit 60.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: Johnson knows he can win a General Election yet a General Election should be about so much more than Brexit.
I have the feeling this will be about more than just brexit. For some it will be the only factor, and for them, the BP might be seen as the best option. Or those who want to remain, or at least have another vote, might well go for the party that promises that.However, much as I think brexit is important, I won't care what they say about it. I'll vote on other, factors that are more important to me.
This will be an election of spin. Not so much as normal, but more than normal.
Johnson might think he has a comfortable majority, you know, just like May knew she had.
The ERG will do something divisive, as will momentum. That's what they have done in the past, and that's what they'll do now. Some of the constituencies that had their MPs kicked out of government might not feel too inclined to trust Johnson.
If Johnson really thinks an election is cut and dried, he's a bigger clown than I thought he was, and I thought he was a very big clown.
Derek Smith said:
I have the feeling this will be about more than just brexit. For some it will be the only factor, and for them, the BP might be seen as the best option. Or those who want to remain, or at least have another vote, might well go for the party that promises that.
However, much as I think brexit is important, I won't care what they say about it. I'll vote on other, factors that are more important to me.
This will be an election of spin. Not so much as normal, but more than normal.
Johnson might think he has a comfortable majority, you know, just like May knew she had.
The ERG will do something divisive, as will momentum. That's what they have done in the past, and that's what they'll do now. Some of the constituencies that had their MPs kicked out of government might not feel too inclined to trust Johnson.
If Johnson really thinks an election is cut and dried, he's a bigger clown than I thought he was, and I thought he was a very big clown.
It doesn’t matter what you or I think about potential outcomes - what is certain is that we need an election.However, much as I think brexit is important, I won't care what they say about it. I'll vote on other, factors that are more important to me.
This will be an election of spin. Not so much as normal, but more than normal.
Johnson might think he has a comfortable majority, you know, just like May knew she had.
The ERG will do something divisive, as will momentum. That's what they have done in the past, and that's what they'll do now. Some of the constituencies that had their MPs kicked out of government might not feel too inclined to trust Johnson.
If Johnson really thinks an election is cut and dried, he's a bigger clown than I thought he was, and I thought he was a very big clown.
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/11874360915...
Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
booboise blueboys said:
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/11874360915...
Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
Ha ha he wants to but Labour will not let him... I wonder why... Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
Nickgnome said:
digimeistter said:
Indeed!
However, you clearly think continued paralysis of the economy outweighs a potential 5% drop in GDP (worst case)
Remind me never to take financial advice from you please, there's a good chap
There you go again. Where have I advocated continued paralysis. In fact if you read my posts in detail you will have seen that I suggested we need to get the bill through committee and suggested 6 weeks. Hardly long is it. However, you clearly think continued paralysis of the economy outweighs a potential 5% drop in GDP (worst case)
Remind me never to take financial advice from you please, there's a good chap
Why would I give you financial advice. We are the ones who have maxed out our pension pots, in fact my partner has to reduce hers to stay within the reduced limit. I wonder if you will be there when you hit 60.
So yes, you are in a very small way affecting the SME's and larger Company's who are getting f
ked every day by the semantics in Parliament, so with the greatest of respect to you and your wife's maxed out pension pots Piss orf!
Vanden Saab said:
booboise blueboys said:
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/11874360915...
Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
Ha ha he wants to but Labour will not let him... I wonder why... Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
Can we have a proper Conservative party leader please?
digimeistter said:
You are a cheerleader for the EU and have boasted you are hedging against our currency,
So yes, you are in a very small way affecting the SME's and larger Company's who are getting fked every day by the semantics in Parliament, so with the greatest of respect to you and your wife's maxed out pension pots
Piss orf!
All done by you and your leave voting buddies. So yes, you are in a very small way affecting the SME's and larger Company's who are getting f
ked every day by the semantics in Parliament, so with the greatest of respect to you and your wife's maxed out pension pots Piss orf!
You reap what you sow, or to put it another way, heads we win tails you lose.
Nickgnome said:
digimeistter said:
You are a cheerleader for the EU and have boasted you are hedging against our currency,
So yes, you are in a very small way affecting the SME's and larger Company's who are getting fked every day by the semantics in Parliament, so with the greatest of respect to you and your wife's maxed out pension pots
Piss orf!
All done by you and your leave voting buddies. So yes, you are in a very small way affecting the SME's and larger Company's who are getting f
ked every day by the semantics in Parliament, so with the greatest of respect to you and your wife's maxed out pension pots Piss orf!
You reap what you sow, or to put it another way, heads we win tails you lose.
I note that you failed to comment on the Mervyn King interview along with every other idiot.
digimeistter said:
A simple democratic vote turned into a national crisis because of the likes of you and your remainer buddies s the actual truth.
I note that you failed to comment on the Mervyn King interview along with every other idiot.
The vote was simple, what came after never was going to be. We are not even at the end of the beginning. Like it or not the Trade agreement will take years.I note that you failed to comment on the Mervyn King interview along with every other idiot.
So you consider me and other remain voters idiots. I must have been a very lucky one, along with my partner and long may our idiocy continue. When you become as remotely idiotic as us and our friends just maybe you will do the right thing.
booboise blueboys said:
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/11874360915...
Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
Corbyn?Oh how pathetic. If he doesn't want to do the job then he should just resign instead of holding the country hostage.
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