Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 2)

Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 2)

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JagLover

42,461 posts

236 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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ben5575 said:
Wow. She's mental. I appreciate that that's not the most insightful comment, but that's a 3 minute rant on TV about a Prime Minister not returning your call.

I can't wait for the next episode!
Also has it ever occurred to her that the reason he doesn't want to talk to her is that he has a new girlfriend now?. Cant imagine she would be too happy about him chatting with the ex.

hidetheelephants

24,501 posts

194 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
Burwood said:
Based on all the latest polls, the chances are tiny. The Tory's are looking at up to 400 seats
I agree: tiny. I reckon about 360-70 ish, but I could well be wrong.

Genuinely intended to be helpful: The plural of the noun Tory is Tories. Plurals of nouns do not require apostrophes. Apostrophes take the place of omitted characters. You can blame the Labour Party and the Conservative Party (1945 to 1979, both now RIP) for me knowing stuff like that.
What you're mourning there is not the respective parties but Butskillism and the spirit of common enterprise that made it; unison on the general direction of travel if not the particular means, with a strong dose of paternalism. Absent a new cold war it's difficult to see how that could be recreated, particularly given the Momentum takeover and Boris filling his cabinet with clamouring empty vessels.

98elise

26,658 posts

162 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
JagLover said:
Well in actual fact they have just postponed cutting it by 2% not increasing it. As long as you have structured your affairs correctly you are still likely paying a lower combined Tax and NI percentage than someone on PAYE.
It is 2% higher than what was scheduled. That's an increase in my book.

My income next year will be lower than it would otherwise have been.
Left wing maths right there. No wonder the Labour front bench struggle with figures.

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

158 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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amusingduck said:
Are you seriously discovering the concept 'don't count your chickens before they've hatched'? laugh
I hope his dick drops off.

tongue out

TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
JagLover said:
Well in actual fact they have just postponed cutting it by 2% not increasing it. As long as you have structured your affairs correctly you are still likely paying a lower combined Tax and NI percentage than someone on PAYE.
It is 2% higher than what was scheduled. That's an increase in my book.

My income next year will be lower than it would otherwise have been.
Well if you vit corbyn they will be 10% less that what they would otherwise have been so with boris you re 10% better off

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

158 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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TheRealNoNeedy said:
Well if you vit corbyn they will be 10% less that what they would otherwise have been so with boris you re 10% better off
Vote?

Let's not get into the realms of fantasy ...

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TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
TheRealNoNeedy said:
Well if you vote corbyn they will be 10% less that what they would otherwise have been so with boris you re 10% better off
Vote?

Let's not get into the realms of fantasy ...

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TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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TheRealNoNeedy said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
TheRealNoNeedy said:
Well if you vote corbyn they will be 10% less that what they would otherwise have been so with boris you re 10% better off
Vote?

Let's not get into the realms of fantasy ...

biggrin
Yeah fat fingers hehe

Bussolini

11,574 posts

86 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
JagLover said:
Well in actual fact they have just postponed cutting it by 2% not increasing it. As long as you have structured your affairs correctly you are still likely paying a lower combined Tax and NI percentage than someone on PAYE.
It is 2% higher than what was scheduled. That's an increase in my book.

My income next year will be lower than it would otherwise have been.
https://www.ft.com/content/cddabdea-0a09-11ea-bb52-34c8d9dc6d84

"Dan Neidle, tax partner at Clifford Chance, told the Financial Times this morning: “I have come across literally nobody in business who was calling for the corporation tax rate to drop to 17 per cent."



gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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ClaphamGT3 said:
Just delivered a woefully insubstantial speech to the CBI
Oh dear, never mind old boy, keep your chin up and all that.

What were you talking about?

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Similar with Swinson, but she had the same effect as if she was talking to a parents meeting in some council office on a wet Friday afternoon just before New Years eve..

turbobloke

104,046 posts

261 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Dont like rolls said:
Similar with Swinson, but she had the same effect as if she was talking to a parents meeting in some council office on a wet Friday afternoon just before New Years eve..
She was that good? Quite a surprise.

Sway

26,330 posts

195 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Derek Smith said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
I never said WTO was a panacea for all ills, it's just a set of default trading arrangements which would facilitate trade without a specific deal.
The USA and China, together with a number of other nations, impose tariffs which do not comply with the WTO. There is nothing to stop them, apart from the WTO's own regulatory 'court'. This is the body that the USA has been blocking appointments to for a long time. At its present state, it has been described as intractable. However, more than half - it's difficult to go beyond that, but it is more than enough for my point - have their terms ending in December.

To put it briefly, there is no way disputes will be heard.

A quote from Raab, whom I might suggest knows stuff, said a few months ago that it was a 'bold decision' to base our national economy on an organisation that struggles with a world that has turned its back on multilateralism.

The head of the WTO said that it will do serious harm to multilateral trading.

There is nothing default about WTO. It does not, in any effective manner, exist. The system has fallen apart.

In effect it means that any negotiations with other countries are on a 1:1 basis.

All this is online but I wonder how many of those who quote WTO have bothered.

There's a meeting in 2020 of ministers on WTO. Expectations are low.

It's rash to pin our trading plans on something that is nothing more than wishful thinking.
Derek, I used to really admire and respect both your points, and you as a poster.

However, in recent months you really have changed. Posting complete fantasy assertions with zero evidence or back up.

To suggest one of the three key pillars of global co-operation and enablement "does not, in any meaningful manner, exist" is complete fantasy.

The WTO is an enablement body. It doesn't "enforce" anything, as it has no mandate to (and never has). Disputes have always taken years to resolve in the vast majority of cases (such as the EU's schedules never being current after it underwent it's first major expansion). That does not mean it doesn't work, or doesn't exist.

Trillions of dollars of trade occur every year seamlessly due to adoption of WTO practices ratified by every member.

As with every global body, there's politicking. That doesn't mean it has no influence, or effect.

Ask Scottish whiskey distillers how their US trade is going currently, and whether the WTO has had any effect...

I really wish the Derek of a couple of years ago were posting, rather than the current iteration who seems to have lost all the principles that by your own assertion guided two careers.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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“ Asked whether he believes the pair had an affair, Business Minister Nadhim Zahawi says that is "not my belief".

“Jennifer herself has said today that there was absolutely no issue around conflicts [of interest] and she won the business fair and square when it came to being awarded the funding," he tells BBC Radio 4's PM programme.

“The prime minister has said everything he needs to say on this.”

He adds that the issue is "completely irrelevant to what people want to hear about" during a general election campaign.”

No it’s not. Liar Johnson will get slaughtered over it smile

ClaphamGT3

11,312 posts

244 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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gizlaroc said:
ClaphamGT3 said:
Just delivered a woefully insubstantial speech to the CBI
Oh dear, never mind old boy, keep your chin up and all that.

What were you talking about?
Actually not a massive Boris fan so not worried he didn't perform too well. It was interesting that the reaction to Johnson and Steptoe was about comparable with Jo Swinson going down by far the best of all three

Vanden Saab

14,150 posts

75 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Jimboka said:
“ Asked whether he believes the pair had an affair, Business Minister Nadhim Zahawi says that is "not my belief".

“Jennifer herself has said today that there was absolutely no issue around conflicts [of interest] and she won the business fair and square when it came to being awarded the funding," he tells BBC Radio 4's PM programme.

“The prime minister has said everything he needs to say on this.”

He adds that the issue is "completely irrelevant to what people want to hear about" during a general election campaign.”

No it’s not. Liar Johnson will get slaughtered over it smile
You are welcome to your opinion, other opinions are available, such as almost no one gives a flying fk that Boris gave her a good seeing to now she has confirmed that there were no conflicts of interest. There may be a few people who will 'bang' on about it but it is unlikely they would have voted for him anyway...

Bussolini

11,574 posts

86 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Vanden Saab said:
Jimboka said:
“ Asked whether he believes the pair had an affair, Business Minister Nadhim Zahawi says that is "not my belief".

“Jennifer herself has said today that there was absolutely no issue around conflicts [of interest] and she won the business fair and square when it came to being awarded the funding," he tells BBC Radio 4's PM programme.

“The prime minister has said everything he needs to say on this.”

He adds that the issue is "completely irrelevant to what people want to hear about" during a general election campaign.”

No it’s not. Liar Johnson will get slaughtered over it smile
You are welcome to your opinion, other opinions are available, such as almost no one gives a flying fk that Boris gave her a good seeing to now she has confirmed that there were no conflicts of interest. There may be a few people who will 'bang' on about it but it is unlikely they would have voted for him anyway...
Of course she is going to say there was no conflict of interest. You just going to take her word as gospel?

Dont like rolls

3,798 posts

55 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Bussolini said:
Of course she is going to say there was no conflict of interest. You just going to take her word as gospel?
Present some evidence of why not.

TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Jimboka said:
“ Asked whether he believes the pair had an affair, Business Minister Nadhim Zahawi says that is "not my belief".

“Jennifer herself has said today that there was absolutely no issue around conflicts [of interest] and she won the business fair and square when it came to being awarded the funding," he tells BBC Radio 4's PM programme.

“The prime minister has said everything he needs to say on this.”

He adds that the issue is "completely irrelevant to what people want to hear about" during a general election campaign.”

No it’s not. Liar Johnson will get slaughtered over it smile
Your posts will be the first I look fir when Boris winsbiggrin

TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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If they had a child (stolen from facebook)


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