Greta Thunberg is Simpal Cindy?
Discussion
Nickgnome said:
Does your son have any passions, music, arts, sciences, sport, history etc.?
My son is an active member of a basketball club (trains and plays every week), is an active member of a drama club [has just been awarded Lamda Grade 6 (Distinction].He has many interests and engages in academic research. At the age of 14, he presented a paper to an archaeological conference, which was very well received. He has subsequently been invited to give presentations to other groups and in a couple of months, will be the youngest ever guest speaker at an event being organised by the Council for British Archaeology.
Nickgnome said:
Probably Spanish whilst your at it.
My son recognises the distinction between 'your' and 'you're'.Edited by pubrunner on Wednesday 22 January 09:12
Edited by pubrunner on Wednesday 22 January 09:22
Nickgnome said:
Surely Greta is ensuring that the debate is kept fore and centre in Global politics.
That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
cagw and now climate change has been front and centre of current affairs for a long time now, certainly since the 90's. That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
proponents of cagw have been right through the "how to get people around to our way of thinking" play book and now appear to be on the coercive control chapter.
someone already mentioned that with the air time greta has she could be achieving much in terms of highlighting the environmental issues that could be and really should be addressed asap. would be great to see her do that.
i asked my youngest daughter and some of her friends what they thought about greta and what she advocates.
i can tell you that if their answers are anything to go by even the younger generation (outside the children of the woke portion of the middle class and a few trustafarians) have no interest in radically altering their lifestyles, in fact altering them in any way, to accommodate mmgw,cagw,anthropogenic climate change.
These are youngsters between their late teens and early twenties. some working,some at uni etc, and i mistakenly thought she would have a major influence on their thinking. i strongly suspect outside of a certain group in the developed west no one else pays any attention to or much less alters their way of life due to the "message", whether it be from a teenage girl, the ipcc,the met office or any other of the groups pushing it.
Esceptico said:
kev1974 said:
OK, I've clicked on the link. Unless I'm missing something there are two sessions that she seems to be part of.
The 13:00 one is the one the world media has gone with and where she just reads from a paper for a few minutes at the start.
The 08:00 one she speaks for two minutes at the start, and about one minute later on, answering two questions from the host that, knowing how these sessions work having been involved in similar events, he'll have gone through with the participants in advance and they'll all have prepared their answers. She winds up at the end, again reading from a paper. There were no questions from the audience or any back and forth discussion.
So I'm still not seeing the thinking on her feet, dynamic discussion and argument, that I'm being told she's capable of - sorry. I continue to see a fairly normal 17 year old of average intelligence, who can read a speech (sometimes in a dramatic voice), granted she is able to do that in front of a large and important audience but so are many young people of her age, if they were given the same platform.
Absolute bThe 13:00 one is the one the world media has gone with and where she just reads from a paper for a few minutes at the start.
The 08:00 one she speaks for two minutes at the start, and about one minute later on, answering two questions from the host that, knowing how these sessions work having been involved in similar events, he'll have gone through with the participants in advance and they'll all have prepared their answers. She winds up at the end, again reading from a paper. There were no questions from the audience or any back and forth discussion.
So I'm still not seeing the thinking on her feet, dynamic discussion and argument, that I'm being told she's capable of - sorry. I continue to see a fairly normal 17 year old of average intelligence, who can read a speech (sometimes in a dramatic voice), granted she is able to do that in front of a large and important audience but so are many young people of her age, if they were given the same platform.
Edited by kev1974 on Wednesday 22 January 00:00
ks. I have been subject to near death by PowerPoint so many times during my career and I could call forth a cast of hundreds of very intelligent, adult professionals who failed to deliver pitches as well as that in their native language. Your prejudice is blinding you completely. pubrunner said:
My son recognises the distinction between 'your' and 'you're'
So do I but don’t always bother to check. Lazy isn’t it.Edited by pubrunner on Wednesday 22 January 09:12
Edited by pubrunner on Wednesday 22 January 09:22
So great your son has a some real passions. I’m sure he can work out what he thinks of GT and may be your post was a bit selective.
Many of our teenage athletes, spend significant time training and travelling globally to compete. They still find time to study and come out with degrees in one subject or another. They are not mutually exclusive.
The same can be said of teenagers in other activities.
wc98 said:
and more open minded, less stuck up people would be able to drink in the same place as people with a different outlook on life without denigrating them.
every time i have a read on here the sandbanks wannabe just makes himself, and now also an in law, appear very different to the image that i think he would like to portray.
Sandbanks wannabe.every time i have a read on here the sandbanks wannabe just makes himself, and now also an in law, appear very different to the image that i think he would like to portray.
Have you ever been there?
The place has been destroyed by faux architecture and I use the word architecture loosely.
wc98 said:
Nickgnome said:
Surely Greta is ensuring that the debate is kept fore and centre in Global politics.
That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
cagw and now climate change has been front and centre of current affairs for a long time now, certainly since the 90's. That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
proponents of cagw have been right through the "how to get people around to our way of thinking" play book and now appear to be on the coercive control chapter.
someone already mentioned that with the air time greta has she could be achieving much in terms of highlighting the environmental issues that could be and really should be addressed asap. would be great to see her do that.
i asked my youngest daughter and some of her friends what they thought about greta and what she advocates.
i can tell you that if their answers are anything to go by even the younger generation (outside the children of the woke portion of the middle class and a few trustafarians) have no interest in radically altering their lifestyles, in fact altering them in any way, to accommodate mmgw,cagw,anthropogenic climate change.
These are youngsters between their late teens and early twenties. some working,some at uni etc, and i mistakenly thought she would have a major influence on their thinking. i strongly suspect outside of a certain group in the developed west no one else pays any attention to or much less alters their way of life due to the "message", whether it be from a teenage girl, the ipcc,the met office or any other of the groups pushing it.
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 January 09:43
Nickgnome said:
wc98 said:
and more open minded, less stuck up people would be able to drink in the same place as people with a different outlook on life without denigrating them.
every time i have a read on here the sandbanks wannabe just makes himself, and now also an in law, appear very different to the image that i think he would like to portray.
Sandbanks wannabe.every time i have a read on here the sandbanks wannabe just makes himself, and now also an in law, appear very different to the image that i think he would like to portray.
Have you ever been there?
The place has been destroyed by faux architecture and I use the word architecture loosely.
edited for Nick:
https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/contact/suggest-a-si...
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 January 09:47
Nickgnome said:
So great your son has a some real passions. I’m sure he can work out what he thinks of GT and may be your post was a bit selective.
Many of our teenage athletes, spend significant time training and travelling globally to compete. They still find time to study and come out with degrees in one subject or another. They are not mutually exclusive.
The same can be said of teenagers in other activities.
Talk about stating the bleeding obvious.Many of our teenage athletes, spend significant time training and travelling globally to compete. They still find time to study and come out with degrees in one subject or another. They are not mutually exclusive.
The same can be said of teenagers in other activities.
It's the nature of teenagers to have passions as their horizons expand and they grow towards adulthood, where other passions take hold if they are fortunate. This is not some revelation, its the norm.
catweasle said:
Our youngest is 20 and just finished his dissertation based on "renewable energy". He has just applied to do his masters centred around "renewable energy". So it is probably safe to say he appears to have similar interests to Greta yet he thinks there is "something not right about her" and doesn't listen to a word she says on any form of media whatsoever.
as it appears he is a do'er not a talker, i can well understand that. good on him.Edited by catweasle on Wednesday 22 January 09:43
JagLover said:
Nickgnome said:
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
On the contrary it gives them a great opportunity to raise fresh taxes and favour special interest groups with subsidies.JagLover said:
On the contrary it gives them a great opportunity to raise fresh taxes and favour special interest groups with subsidies.
it's a handy way for governments across the west to use taxpayers money to fund useful idiots to lobby for change in the direction they want, without having the balls to put if front and centre of a manifesto prior to an election.that's the main reason camerons bonfire of the quangos never happened.
wc98 said:
catweasle said:
Our youngest is 20 and just finished his dissertation based on "renewable energy". He has just applied to do his masters centred around "renewable energy". So it is probably safe to say he appears to have similar interests to Greta yet he thinks there is "something not right about her" and doesn't listen to a word she says on any form of media whatsoever.
as it appears he is a do'er not a talker, i can well understand that. good on him.Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 22 January 09:43
Nickgnome said:
Surely Greta is ensuring that the debate is kept fore and centre in Global politics.
That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
The issue of climate change has been in the spotlight for decades, ever since the warnings of impending global catastrophe (that never occurred *) were released.That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
Ironically, Thatcher was a proponent of action on environmental issues. Her proposals were skewered by others within the government of the time *Lawson being one).
My opinion, but Thunberg, Monnbat & the like do nothing to actually aid solutions, their agenda & it's goals lie elsewhere.
* I'm aware of the line that things changed on the back of the scares so target achieved - but that's anecdotal in cause & effect.
wc98 said:
Nickgnome said:
Surely Greta is ensuring that the debate is kept fore and centre in Global politics.
That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
cagw and now climate change has been front and centre of current affairs for a long time now, certainly since the 90's. That in itself is a result.
I do not concur with all of her beliefs but the assured way on which she delivers her message cannot be criticised.
Politicians in the U.K. and elsewhere find the topic very inconvenient and difficult to manage. They would love for it to go away.
Greta and her supporters are ensuring the issue of climate change stays centre stage.
proponents of cagw have been right through the "how to get people around to our way of thinking" play book and now appear to be on the coercive control chapter.
someone already mentioned that with the air time greta has she could be achieving much in terms of highlighting the environmental issues that could be and really should be addressed asap. would be great to see her do that.
i asked my youngest daughter and some of her friends what they thought about greta and what she advocates.
i can tell you that if their answers are anything to go by even the younger generation (outside the children of the woke portion of the middle class and a few trustafarians) have no interest in radically altering their lifestyles, in fact altering them in any way, to accommodate mmgw,cagw,anthropogenic climate change.
These are youngsters between their late teens and early twenties. some working,some at uni etc, and i mistakenly thought she would have a major influence on their thinking. i strongly suspect outside of a certain group in the developed west no one else pays any attention to or much less alters their way of life due to the "message", whether it be from a teenage girl, the ipcc,the met office or any other of the groups pushing it.
Smiler. said:
The issue of climate change has been in the spotlight for decades, ever since the warnings of impending global catastrophe (that never occurred *) were released.
Ironically, Thatcher was a proponent of action on environmental issues. Her proposals were skewered by others within the government of the time *Lawson being one).
My opinion, but Thunberg, Monnbat & the like do nothing to actually aid solutions, their agenda & it's goals lie elsewhere.
* I'm aware of the line that things changed on the back of the scares so target achieved - but that's anecdotal in cause & effect.
I’m well aware of Thatchers view and admired her for it. As I recall she studied Chemistry. Ironically, Thatcher was a proponent of action on environmental issues. Her proposals were skewered by others within the government of the time *Lawson being one).
My opinion, but Thunberg, Monnbat & the like do nothing to actually aid solutions, their agenda & it's goals lie elsewhere.
* I'm aware of the line that things changed on the back of the scares so target achieved - but that's anecdotal in cause & effect.
The issue may have been around for a long time but it is a difficult ones for politicians to handle.
It seems many here are quite happy to take the risk knowing they won’t be around to suffer the consequences. That’s pretty selfish in my book.
Applying basic risk analysis modelling should be steering out thinking.
Dont like rolls said:
I could ask why you spend so much time and % of your posts attacking and insulting people ? It seems to portray a very aggressive personality.
To answer, that drum needs banging because we hear constantly from those blinded by a cute kid with a death stare, the use of the words SHE said this, SHE has achieved this, SHE this, SHE that. Non of this has anything to do with the brave young girl that is used as a human shield to camouflage and distract from the Eco-Facists behind her
I’ve no issue in calling out or offending idiots incapable of flexible thinking. Especially those who are stupid enough to be banned from these boards and yet keep coming back for more to give us the benefit of their low brow, reactionary wisdom,To answer, that drum needs banging because we hear constantly from those blinded by a cute kid with a death stare, the use of the words SHE said this, SHE has achieved this, SHE this, SHE that. Non of this has anything to do with the brave young girl that is used as a human shield to camouflage and distract from the Eco-Facists behind her
I have no compunction in stating I believe you fit all of the above criteria. If I’m wrong then, like I am certain you once did, I’ll suffer the PH consequences and unlike you go back to the real world. PH is but a distraction from everyday life and a combination of outlet for frustration, a source of information, and a font of humour. If access ceased it wouldn’t necessitate me pretending to be somebody else to come back and rant some more.
On your second point I didn’t notice any eco fascists in tow yesterday. How does one spot them ?
I don’t sign up to Greta’s doctrine. I don’t doubt climate change is an issue but I don’t buy her approach. I do though recognise it as being galvanising for certain audiences and it clearly has some effect. Her appearance here at Davos is testament to that. As an exercise in the power of harnessing social media, pricking some people’s social conscience and personal branding her story is fascinating.
By the way I also recognise she has significant support and encouragement from many quarters but equally I don’t subscribe to the puppet/actress school of thought either.
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