Greta Thunberg is Simpal Cindy?
Discussion
Pesty said:
Yes Greta you pick that nasty crust off and waste it, no big deal wasting perfectly good food. I’m sure you grew those bananas in your back yard and all that plastic has been used and used. Train runs on unicorn farts and was made with solar.
Lindun said:
Wow, OMGZ she’s eating? She’s actually eating!!!!!11!!! That’s a disgrace and completely destroys any point she could possibly make or have made ever.
Sh s picked the fruit off and wasted it. She’s eating bananas, telling us to stop eating meat what’s the carbon comparison?chrispmartha said:
That so sums up the anti Greta-the-schoolgirl brigade in here.
Pesty said:
Sh s picked the fruit off and wasted it. She’s eating bananas, telling us to stop eating meat what’s the carbon comparison?
I’ve got no idea, and more importantly, I really don’t care. However, you seem to have been totally triggered by a child and, like many on here, are acting like a group of bullies would. Pretty pathetic when you break it down.
samdale said:
RobDickinson said:
Down and out said:
She seems to do a lot of traveling, is it all by glider or row boat?
She sailed over to USA on a zero carbon output catamaran took her 2 weeks, otherwise its usually by trail etc. She seems a very angry and troubled girl - obviously her illness does not help.
The bit I have been missing are the clear direction that she expects that Politicians should be heading. In democracies, they have to get re-elected, so I cannot imagine them telling the electorate that it would be really helpful if everyone would turn back the clock 200-years.
The rate of change has to be acceptable to each country’s electorate, unless we are happy to adopt the PRC’s approach to public consultation. Speaking of which, how many of their schools were on strike last Friday objecting to the ever growing number of coal-fired power-stations and the number of newly registered cars growing at a rate of 20million year-on-year.
The sooner she continues with her studies, the better.
I do not need to be convinced that the climate is changing and not for the better. But I have yet to see a more practical solution that what our government is aiming to achieve - but other nations, less so. Meanwhile, we are arguing that Diesel trucks, carrying millions of motor parts, should be driving from the poor parts to the rich parts of Europe without hindrance.
It’s good for the Global (German) economy, apparently.
NJH said:
That picture is important because it highlights a deep seated insidious racism at the heart of many in the environmental movement. Constantly saying that the economic model of ever increasing growth is broken and needs to be stopped is precisely the same as saying you don't want poor people in Africa, Asia and south America to have the chance of a decent life (which they have increasingly been getting due to rapid economic development).
Except the benefits of economic growth aren't going to the poorest, they are going to the richest in society to become even richer.https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/21/w...
Evanivitch said:
NJH said:
That picture is important because it highlights a deep seated insidious racism at the heart of many in the environmental movement. Constantly saying that the economic model of ever increasing growth is broken and needs to be stopped is precisely the same as saying you don't want poor people in Africa, Asia and south America to have the chance of a decent life (which they have increasingly been getting due to rapid economic development).
Except the benefits of economic growth aren't going to the poorest, they are going to the richest in society to become even richer.https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/21/w...
Evanivitch said:
NJH said:
That picture is important because it highlights a deep seated insidious racism at the heart of many in the environmental movement. Constantly saying that the economic model of ever increasing growth is broken and needs to be stopped is precisely the same as saying you don't want poor people in Africa, Asia and south America to have the chance of a decent life (which they have increasingly been getting due to rapid economic development).
Except the benefits of economic growth aren't going to the poorest, they are going to the richest in society to become even richer.https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/21/w...
Abstract said:
This paper argues that environmentalism has become a new secular Western religion, which threatens world disorder as well as the prospects of alleviating poverty in the Third World. It critically examines the Green agenda in terms of a number of prospective international environmental treaties: the Kyoto protocol, the Basle convention, the POPs treaty, and the Biodiversity convention, and shows how these pose serious threats to the prospects of alleviating poverty in India.
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=307823In a spirited attack on the new cultural imperialism of international greens in his inaugural Julian Simon Lecture at the Liberty Institute in Delhi Prof Deepak Lal said:
The Green movement is a secular religion filling the void created in the West by the retreat of faith in traditional religions. Its aim is to create a new "white man's burden" and impose its values on the world. The former religious crusades for saving souls has given way to new green crusades for supposedly saving the planet. This new imperialism needs to be resisted - its claim is to save the environment, but its practical effect in many instances will be ruinous for poor countries.
The sad part of all of this latest in. long line of popular protesting is it will not change anything
It’s not a bad thing to protest, I’m all for democracy, however in my opinion there is a subtle difference in protest and naive demanding. I don’t know who her advisors are but a change of tact may be more useful in making the message more palatable likely to receive genuine action.
Start in Germany who still use dirty coal (around 47%) for their electrical power requirements. And China where the air to breath becomes a struggle owing to the air pollution
It’s not a bad thing to protest, I’m all for democracy, however in my opinion there is a subtle difference in protest and naive demanding. I don’t know who her advisors are but a change of tact may be more useful in making the message more palatable likely to receive genuine action.
Start in Germany who still use dirty coal (around 47%) for their electrical power requirements. And China where the air to breath becomes a struggle owing to the air pollution
crankedup said:
The sad part of all of this latest in. long line of popular protesting is it will not change anything
It’s not a bad thing to protest, I’m all for democracy, however in my opinion there is a subtle difference in protest and naive demanding. I don’t know who her advisors are but a change of tact may be more useful in making the message more palatable likely to receive genuine action.
Start in Germany who still use dirty coal (around 47%) for their electrical power requirements. And China where the air to breath becomes a struggle owing to the air pollution
Starting in Germany is possibly not that good as tactics go, or it could be playing an ace depending on viewpoint.It’s not a bad thing to protest, I’m all for democracy, however in my opinion there is a subtle difference in protest and naive demanding. I don’t know who her advisors are but a change of tact may be more useful in making the message more palatable likely to receive genuine action.
Start in Germany who still use dirty coal (around 47%) for their electrical power requirements. And China where the air to breath becomes a struggle owing to the air pollution
The context is that Greta has just sued Germany (and France) and has received rebukes from Merkel and Macron as well as ministers from both countries, also the PM of Australia for good measure.
Subs link but the gist is visible:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/worlds-le...
Also:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/leaders-of-france-ge...
Evanivitch said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
Voldemort said:
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So many things wrong with this meme i don't know where to start.Climate change deniers? I don't think i have ever met anyone that denies that the climate changes. The planet is heating back up after the last ice age.
And what is this business about angry old white males?
Sexism, ageism and racism in one quick sentence!
And the suggestion of sexual assault?
Is this what the lefties call humour?
How are Merkel, Macron and Morrison reacting to Greta right now? Merkel fits your failed generalisation of a smear so well.
turbobloke said:
crankedup said:
The sad part of all of this latest in. long line of popular protesting is it will not change anything
It’s not a bad thing to protest, I’m all for democracy, however in my opinion there is a subtle difference in protest and naive demanding. I don’t know who her advisors are but a change of tact may be more useful in making the message more palatable likely to receive genuine action.
Start in Germany who still use dirty coal (around 47%) for their electrical power requirements. And China where the air to breath becomes a struggle owing to the air pollution
Starting in Germany is possibly not that good as tactics go, or it could be playing an ace depending on viewpoint.It’s not a bad thing to protest, I’m all for democracy, however in my opinion there is a subtle difference in protest and naive demanding. I don’t know who her advisors are but a change of tact may be more useful in making the message more palatable likely to receive genuine action.
Start in Germany who still use dirty coal (around 47%) for their electrical power requirements. And China where the air to breath becomes a struggle owing to the air pollution
The context is that Greta has just sued Germany (and France) and has received rebukes from Merkel and Macron as well as ministers from both countries, also the PM of Australia for good measure.
Subs link but the gist is visible:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/worlds-le...
Also:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/leaders-of-france-ge...
serious campaign. It is perhaps hitting the easily politically embarrassed Countries, I mean we in the U.K. fuelled our energy needs for a complete week from renewables, no oil, gas or coal used. That is, imo, the message to send, not ‘you stole my future’ clap trap.
vonuber said:
Blimey, amazing how threatened people are by a 16yr old.
Suggest you all hand in your powerfully built membership cards.
Suggest you all hand in your powerfully built membership cards.
What card was that? If you're feeling threatened say so and hand in your own card given you say they exist (you too are on PH right?).
Meanwhile moving back on-topic here's how Greta with no help from anyone as a passionate individual 16-year old child has managed to work with 15 others from 12 countries to coordinate a lawsuit against 5 nations (as happens) which curiously doesn't include China for example.
https://www.businessinsider.com/french-president-r...
Gadgetmac said:
There are some real clowns in here...
“Lefties” “Marxists”
It’s a conspiracy I tells ya!
It’s just like the Climate Denial threads.
You might want to look into who is actually behind the Extinction Rebellion, or rather their parent organisation Rising Up!“Lefties” “Marxists”
It’s a conspiracy I tells ya!
It’s just like the Climate Denial threads.
https://risingup.org.uk/draft-manifesto
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