Lad killed by US wrong side driver, who's done a bunk...

[Sheepshanks]

poo at Paul's said:

Another dash cam vid from Thursday this week of some inept tt driving out of this base turning right but onto the wrong side of the road, head onto a car.
Selfish fking muppets, if you cannot drive on the correct side of the road here, stop being a selfish prick and get a fking cab! aholes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...

Don't go on holiday to Orlando - you see (I assume) Brits doing it all the time.

[Coolbananas]

Not-The-Messiah said:

First of as it been confirmed she is a CIA agent? If she is it show the calibre of high level agents the US have if they can't even drive on the right side of the road in another country.

This rubbish it's just an accident its boring, the family from what I can tell just want proper procedure to take place, I think they have said that doesn't automatically mean prison time. It's more the principal that she's been able to just walk away.

Im almost certain if this was the other way round and this was a UK person who did the same thing in the US. The UK would have allowed justice to take place.

You've really got to question the US decision on this, they have damaged diplomatic and public relations just so some coward incompetent women doesn't need to sit through a few court proceedings. She more than likely would have ended up with a suspended sentence.

They think we don't matter but we do in many ways. Barack Obama thought we didn't matter and treated us as such. But then when he wanted to go to war in Syria and we turned around and went "your on your own then". That was one of the key reason he didn't get his way it turn the American public against the idea.

If you do some research, you'll find that several media outlets have confirmed that she is CIA and that even the Dunn family believe so now, hence their increased frustration with the UK Government for not admitting this earlier.

You can be as certain as you like, you are just projecting what you want to assume, the fact remains that unless a very similar accident occurred involving a British Agent in the US, we will never know if the outcome re protection is the same. My own thoughts and assumptions are the opposite of yours, I think British Intelligence would protect their own. The real target for change in all this must surely be rules around Diplomatic Immunity? This case highlights this. Mrs Sacoolas is protected and if CIA as reported, prohibited from standing trial by her Government.

I do not believe the woman is a coward at all. I believe she is guilty of a crime due to an accident she caused because she has admitted as much and did everything correctly at the time. Her Government has then prohibited her from remaining the in the UK - that is not an act of cowardice on her part at all given she is obeying her own Government and is not beholden to a foreign one unless her own believe so too. It is easy to be all high and mighty but thousands of drunken Brits behave far worse every weekend, most get away with what they do out of sheer luck. I would not believe you if you claimed to have never committed a motoring offense in your life that potentially could have endangered another motorist if not for sheer good fortune, timing beyond your control and luck. Mistakes happen to the best of people and the most skilled of people too.

Tribalism whipped up over this is entirely unhelpful and actually contributes to the US refusing to allow her to stand trial since they will use the mob frenzy as further excuse. I really doubt that US Diplomatic and Public relations are damaged in the slightest where it matters.

Mrs Sacoolas is only going back if a groundswell of her fellow Americans plead for such to their Government and even then, US Intelligence would need to break protocol.

The two things I would like to see from this: another look at Diplomatic Immunity Agreements and the US Intelligence base involved forcing UK driver training on all Staff.

[Sheepshanks]

Coolbananas said:

.... and the US Intelligence base involved forcing UK driver training on all Staff.

People still forget. I don't know the area, but how complicated would it be to just force exiting traffic to go left? Then maybe stick a roundabout down the road so they can turn around if necessary.

Of course that only solves the issue at the base.

[Starfighter]

Roads are too narrow for that. Making the entrance in to a mini-roundabout may work but many US drivers have never see one of these either. There certainly cannot use them correctly.

[Halb]

poo at Paul's said:

Another dash cam vid from Thursday this week of some inept tt driving out of this base turning right but onto the wrong side of the road, head onto a car.
Selfish fking muppets, if you cannot drive on the correct side of the road here, stop being a selfish prick and get a fking cab! aholes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...

Edited by poo at Paul's on Friday 14th February 23:14

THat's pretty bad.

[Sheepshanks]

Starfighter said:

Roads are too narrow for that.

It's in open countryside, isn't it? Shouldn't be any problem to make the road (at least around the entrance) wider.

[poo at Paul's]

Halb said:

poo at Paul's said:

Another dash cam vid from Thursday this week of some inept tt driving out of this base turning right but onto the wrong side of the road, head onto a car.
Selfish fking muppets, if you cannot drive on the correct side of the road here, stop being a selfish prick and get a fking cab! aholes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptons...

Edited by poo at Paul's on Friday 14th February 23:14

THat's pretty bad.

Not only that, look at the White people carrier waiting to turn out of the entrance...……..it too is on the wrong side of the road at that junction. So presumably has driven on the wrong side on the Base to get to where they are, no doubt following the other fktard.
Seems to have happened the same day or day before this gem from Northamptonshire Police.....They're clearly on top of the problem...!!

https://www.facebook.com/northantspolice/photos/a....

Edited by poo at Paul's on Saturday 15th February 13:43

[Biker 1]

I can totally understand the kids parents wanting justice & to have this woman extradited to the UK etc, but does doing a 'prisoner swap' really constitute 'justice'??: https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-23/block-julian-a...
They've tried this line previously & I don't thinks its the way to go.

[poo at Paul's]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/us-military-...

Another crash involving one of their cars on diplo plates. Dead straight road, 30 mph...……..!

fking idiot, that is about 3 miles from the base and he'd have negotiated one village with a roundabout to get there, as well as a T junction with a B road.

[vaud]

poo at Paul's said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/us-military-...

Another crash involving one of their cars on diplo plates. Dead straight road, 30 mph...……..!

fking idiot, that is about 3 miles from the base and he'd have negotiated one village with a roundabout to get there, as well as a T junction with a B road.

Bit of a non article though. It doesn't state that he was driving on the wrong side of the road, only that he might. Hard to tell from the photo.

[Frank7]

poo at Paul's said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/us-military-...

Another crash involving one of their cars on diplo plates. Dead straight road, 30 mph...……..!

fking idiot, that is about 3 miles from the base and he'd have negotiated one village with a roundabout to get there, as well as a T junction with a B road.

Of course the accident that killed Harry Dunn was extremely regrettable to say the least, both it and the ensuing fleeing/diplomatic immunity brouhaha was something that should never, ever, have happened, but these two incidents occurred 8 months apart.
To hear some people, LHD American cars are having pile ups 24/7.
I’m not saying this is something that should be ignored, nor that plod should turn a blind eye, but get a bit of perspective for Christ’s sake.
I spent almost 12 years driving 44 ton trucks all over Europe, I can vividly recall at least three times pulling out of factories in Germany, Belgium and Poland, and drifting to the left side of the road, before my brain kicked in, and I steered to the right.
Only a couple of years ago, I drove out of a hotel car park in France with my wife’s RHD car, and went straight to the left side of the road, until she screamed at me, and I wrenched the wheel to the right.
In all the years that I drove cars and trucks, both LHD and RHD in Europe, the only accident I was ever involved in, was when a Finnish trucker sideswiped my trailer while I was stationary in a factory In Luxembourg.

[ali_kat]

poo at Paul's said:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/us-military-...

Another crash involving one of their cars on diplo plates. Dead straight road, 30 mph...……..!

fking idiot, that is about 3 miles from the base and he'd have negotiated one village with a roundabout to get there, as well as a T junction with a B road.

He wasn’t on diplo plates.

[wong]

Why doesn't someone just go out at night and paint big Ef off arrows on the road and several hundred metres either side outside the US base.

[cossy400]

wong said:

Why doesn't someone just go out at night and paint big Ef off arrows on the road and several hundred metres either side outside the US base.

Be gone with you !!! talking common sense.

These very signs that all the ports have to jog the foreigners memories when they set off.

I suppose the question is if there is so many americans on the base "why" havent they got arrows or signs?

[Tango13]

Articlesaid said:

Following Mr Dunn’s death, the chief constable of Northamptonshire Police, Nick Adderley, said he would fund driver training at RAF Croughton in an attempt to prevent similar incidents.

I have to say, the chief constable is being very generous with the rate payers money, why can't the USAF pay for the training or even better make the USAF personnel put their hands in their pockets?

[Zarco]

Tango13 said:

Articlesaid said:

Following Mr Dunn’s death, the chief constable of Northamptonshire Police, Nick Adderley, said he would fund driver training at RAF Croughton in an attempt to prevent similar incidents.

I have to say, the chief constable is being very generous with the rate payers money, why can't the USAF pay for the training or even better make the USAF personnel put their hands in their pockets?

I've said this before, but how about we make them drive on the left inside the base. Until they do this, guess what, it's an accident waiting to happen.

[vaud]

Zarco said:

I've said this before, but how about we make them drive on the left inside the base. Until they do this, guess what, it's an accident waiting to happen.

They do. As repeatedly pointed out on this thread.

[WilliamWoollard]

cossy400 said:

wong said:

Why doesn't someone just go out at night and paint big Ef off arrows on the road and several hundred metres either side outside the US base.

Be gone with you !!! talking common sense.

These very signs that all the ports have to jog the foreigners memories when they set off.

I suppose the question is if there is so many americans on the base "why" havent they got arrows or signs?

There are now arrows and signs for several hundred metres either side of the base


https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2019-10-11/harry-d...

[wong]

WilliamWoollard said:

There are now arrows and signs for several hundred metres either side of the base


https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2019-10-11/harry-d...

But if they're driving in the right hand lane, they wouldn't see the little yellow sign. Its the big Ef off arrows on the tarmac that everyone sees.

[tangerine_sedge]

Zarco said:

I've said this before, but how about we make them drive on the left inside the base. Until they do this, guess what, it's an accident waiting to happen.

Top trolling / retarded comment of the week.