Extinction Rebellion - Are They Terrorists Yet?

[RemyMartin81D]

Gadgetmac said:

That females are far less likely to condone violence than males...

As if you didn't know that.

Well I work in the rail sector, all that were present at the time of discussion were in agreement , however probably skewed somewhat as most , of not all staff in the rail industry aren't keen on the public at the best of times.

[anonymous-user]

jonmiles said:

...The point I'd and others are making is that antagonism and provocation are not mitigating circumstances when a mob or anyone else attacks an individual simply because they are being held up.

If they were molesting your Granny then fair enough.

What is it with you two and damsels in distress? Anyway we digress. So we both agree that a light mob scuffle in the name of instant justice is 'fair enough' in certain circumstances? You and gadgetmac just draw the line above being an obnoxious wker and kicking commuters in the head and everyone else seems to draw it just below....

[Agammemnon]

jonmiles said:

He's made a fair point - Everyone also has the right to protest which sometimes means blocking streets and impeding people going about their business I'm afraid.

So if I don't like what you/he say & wish to protest about it you'd consider it acceptable for me to impede you going about your daily life? What if I do the same with your wife, kids, parents, etc? Do you think I have the right to do that? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour? I don't.

[jonmiles]

Agammemnon said:

jonmiles said:

He's made a fair point - Everyone also has the right to protest which sometimes means blocking streets and impeding people going about their business I'm afraid.

So if I don't like what you/he say & wish to protest about it you'd consider it acceptable for me to impede you going about your daily life? What if I do the same with your wife, kids, parents, etc? Do you think I have the right to do that? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour? I don't.

Do you think beating up people as part of a group is acceptable behaviour?

[turbobloke]

jonmiles said:

Agammemnon said:

jonmiles said:

He's made a fair point - Everyone also has the right to protest which sometimes means blocking streets and impeding people going about their business I'm afraid.

So if I don't like what you/he say & wish to protest about it you'd consider it acceptable for me to impede you going about your daily life? What if I do the same with your wife, kids, parents, etc? Do you think I have the right to do that? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour? I don't.

Do you think beating up people as part of a group is acceptable behaviour?

In this type of case it depends on whether there was recent / previous violence from 'people' which there was in the original instance here (it was filmed). That can justify bypassing the discussion group stage.

[Gadgetmac]

Can't think of a single reason why you wouldn't condemn the beating up of a climate activist/Marxist by a mob.

Nope...not one.

[Murph7355]

jonmiles said:

Agammemnon said:

jonmiles said:

He's made a fair point - Everyone also has the right to protest which sometimes means blocking streets and impeding people going about their business I'm afraid.

So if I don't like what you/he say & wish to protest about it you'd consider it acceptable for me to impede you going about your daily life? What if I do the same with your wife, kids, parents, etc? Do you think I have the right to do that? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour? I don't.

Do you think beating up people as part of a group is acceptable behaviour?

If said blocker just kicked my wife/kids/parents in the head in the process of his activities, yes.

[g4ry13]

How come a motoring forum has people defending the hypocritical lentil munchers?

[jonmiles]

Murph7355 said:

jonmiles said:

Agammemnon said:

jonmiles said:

He's made a fair point - Everyone also has the right to protest which sometimes means blocking streets and impeding people going about their business I'm afraid.

So if I don't like what you/he say & wish to protest about it you'd consider it acceptable for me to impede you going about your daily life? What if I do the same with your wife, kids, parents, etc? Do you think I have the right to do that? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour? I don't.

Do you think beating up people as part of a group is acceptable behaviour?

If said blocker just kicked my wife/kids/parents in the head in the process of his activities, yes.

Are your wife/kids/parents likely to be trying to drag somebody off the top of a tube train against their will then?

There's a reason people don't do similar with people standing on ledges about to try and commit suicide. They talk them down as they are in a precarious position.

[grumbledoak]

g4ry13 said:

How come a motoring forum has people defending the hypocritical lentil munchers?

The PH entrance exam is too easy. Even hypocritical lentil munchers can pass it.

[Gadgetmac]

g4ry13 said:

How come a motoring forum has people defending the hypocritical lentil munchers?

Because not everyone on PH is politically to the right of Genghis Khan.

[NoNeed]

Gadgetmac said:

Because not everyone on PH is politically to the right of Genghis Khan.

You are just so far left that those in the centre look like that.

[OnTheEdge]

Gadgetmac said:

Because not everyone on PH is politically to the right of Genghis Khan.

The place seem to be absolutely crawling with left wingers. Pest control services should be notified.

[Down and out]

jonmiles said:

Are your wife/kids/parents likely to be trying to drag somebody off the top of a tube train against their will then?

There's a reason people don't do similar with people standing on ledges about to try and commit suicide. They talk them down as they are in a precarious position.

I've seen quite a few grabbed and dragged backwards off bridges.

[otolith]

jonmiles said:

Are your wife/kids/parents likely to be trying to drag somebody off the top of a tube train against their will then?

There's a reason people don't do similar with people standing on ledges about to try and commit suicide. They talk them down as they are in a precarious position.

People who are suicidal can sometimes be talked down. People who are in their right mind, but don't give a st that they are stopping you getting to work, or what the personal consequences of that might be, not so much.

[anonymous-user]

Gadgetmac said:

Because not everyone on PH is politically to the right of Genghis Khan.

Relative to XR, who you don't support, no really, everyone is right wing. You live in a bubble if you think the only people utterly sick of these XR clowns are right of center. I think perhaps you're confusing people who work for a living with those on the right.

[Smiler.]

fblm said:

Gadgetmac said:

Because not everyone on PH is politically to the right of Genghis Khan.

Relative to XR, who you don't support, no really, everyone is right wing. You live in a bubble if you think the only people utterly sick of these XR clowns are right of center. I think perhaps you're confusing people who work for a living with those on the right.

You ought to know by now, Gadge is never happy, Mac the Strife.

[Agammemnon]

jonmiles said:

Agammemnon said:

jonmiles said:

He's made a fair point - Everyone also has the right to protest which sometimes means blocking streets and impeding people going about their business I'm afraid.

So if I don't like what you/he say & wish to protest about it you'd consider it acceptable for me to impede you going about your daily life? What if I do the same with your wife, kids, parents, etc? Do you think I have the right to do that? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour? I don't.

Do you think beating up people as part of a group is acceptable behaviour?

It might be acceptable if they struck the first blow after deliberately antagonising such a group.

I've answered your question. Please do me the courtesy of answering mine.

[NoNeed]

Agammemnon said:

jonmiles said:

Agammemnon said:

jonmiles said:

He's made a fair point - Everyone also has the right to protest which sometimes means blocking streets and impeding people going about their business I'm afraid.

So if I don't like what you/he say & wish to protest about it you'd consider it acceptable for me to impede you going about your daily life? What if I do the same with your wife, kids, parents, etc? Do you think I have the right to do that? Do you think it's acceptable behaviour? I don't.

Do you think beating up people as part of a group is acceptable behaviour?

It might be acceptable if they struck the first blow after deliberately antagonising such a group.

I've answered your question. Please do me the courtesy of answering mine.

When the protesters break the law, in this case, a serious breach of the peace the public have a right to act and restrain that person or persons, if they decide to fight that was their choice, the crowd just obliged.

[Murph7355]

jonmiles said:

Are your wife/kids/parents likely to be trying to drag somebody off the top of a tube train against their will then?

Do you think someone is justified kicking someone else in the head under any circumstances...?