The end of the Union, who'll go first?
Poll: The end of the Union, who'll go first?
Total Members Polled: 247
Discussion
One thing I've learnt from exploring and learning about NI is that any outsider doesn't really have a hope in hell of understanding anything about it. They may as well be dolphins.
NI seems like the more straightforward candidate on paper, it's not as if the rest of the UK gives much of a toss about it, but I wouldn't dare attempt to guess the depth of feeling there about the union, or the republic's lack of desire to take it on.
NI seems like the more straightforward candidate on paper, it's not as if the rest of the UK gives much of a toss about it, but I wouldn't dare attempt to guess the depth of feeling there about the union, or the republic's lack of desire to take it on.
uk66fastback said:
They don't want to be ruled by London, but want to be ruled by Brussels (if they get back in). Jeanette Krankie is clinically insane.
Just because you don’t want to be controlled by Westminster doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t see the benefit in being part of the EU? Note of course that Scotland is already in the EU so by leaving the UK and rejoining the UK means that that it’s only “controlled” by one third party and not two.
I don’t agree with Scotland leaving but I understand why an argument can be made for leaving the UK whilst still wanting to be part of the EU.
So I posted the below earlier in another thread which was completely ignored by all,
Does anybody really care about Northern Ireland being in the UK or not?
Unless you live there and would prefer to stay British who cares.
Yes I know people will say, what about the troubles and the threat of terrorism, but should we really bow to the threat, and also modern tech and surveillance would make it very tricky for the provo"s to reassemble in anything near their old form.
Let's give it back to Eire and let them deal with it.
That's the border issue sorted, and I bet 95% of people in the rest of the UK would care less.
Does anybody really care about Northern Ireland being in the UK or not?
Unless you live there and would prefer to stay British who cares.
Yes I know people will say, what about the troubles and the threat of terrorism, but should we really bow to the threat, and also modern tech and surveillance would make it very tricky for the provo"s to reassemble in anything near their old form.
Let's give it back to Eire and let them deal with it.
That's the border issue sorted, and I bet 95% of people in the rest of the UK would care less.
Thorodin said:
What makes you think the Republic don't want to take it on? Now, at least? The Republicans do.
Expense, ball ache, accommodating the people the place was created to keep a lid on in the first place. No matter what there'd be a very vocal unionist presence suddenly materialising in Dublin's politics who'd be totally alien to everything it had stood for since creation. If I were the ruler of the land I'd keep things as is for the sake of a quiet life. It might not be ideal but it rubs along adequately enough. Maybe circumstances will force it no matter what.
Budflicker said:
Does anybody really care about Northern Ireland being in the UK or not?
I've asked quite a few non Northern Irish out of curiosity as to what they'd say. None of them give the slightest s
t. Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.
By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.
Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?
By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.
Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?
Johnnytheboy said:
Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.
By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.
Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?
Nah, they're just waiting for Ireland to lose Vs the EU in its corporation tax case.By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.
Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?
Mabbs9 said:
Watch how many times she raises the idea of another referendum
I said this on another thread, she trots out Ref2 with really boring regularity and for the most specious reasons. Cat stuck up a tree in Bognor Regis? This clearly demonstrates the need for another indyref. etc etc.
Judging by the replies It seems to be a surprise to many English that they are actually in a political and cultural union.
To the arrogant and insular Englanders, England IS Britain, England IS the UK.
Witness their plaintive, pathetic bleating when God Save The Queen was taken away from them as their
national anthem.
But it's ours, it's England, it's English, the queen is English [ with a bit of German obvs ]
To the arrogant and insular Englanders, England IS Britain, England IS the UK.
Witness their plaintive, pathetic bleating when God Save The Queen was taken away from them as their
national anthem.
But it's ours, it's England, it's English, the queen is English [ with a bit of German obvs ]
Cantaloupe said:
Judging by the replies It seems to be a surprise to many English that they are actually in a political and cultural union.
To the arrogant and insular Englanders, England IS Britain, England IS the UK.
Witness their plaintive, pathetic bleating when God Save The Queen was taken away from them as their
national anthem.
But it's ours, it's England, it's English, the queen is English [ with a bit of German obvs ]
Nice try. To the arrogant and insular Englanders, England IS Britain, England IS the UK.
Witness their plaintive, pathetic bleating when God Save The Queen was taken away from them as their
national anthem.
But it's ours, it's England, it's English, the queen is English [ with a bit of German obvs ]
Johnnytheboy said:
Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.
By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.
Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?
Aside the difficult politic issues I think there is a massive business opportunity for all of the island of Ireland in this.By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.
Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?
I don't pretend to understand the political issues and consequences but they'll be some smart cookies in NI and Ireland looking at the business opportunity and rubbing their hands. Played well, maybe that's a way for NI and Ireland to gain benefit of the current arrangements and proposals.
Please don't flame me on the political side, it's a bloody huge issue. Tried to be careful in my wording but just a dumb observation from an English type that knows nothing...
Pesty said:
Peoples republic of Yorkshire
Everybody sing our national anthem
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee,
On Ilkla Moor baht 'at?!
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee?
Bring it on, my birth cert and passport would get me back in there. Everybody sing our national anthem
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee,
On Ilkla Moor baht 'at?!
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee?
Last time I was over there I bought my son one of these:
Sorted!
Brexit has certainly emboldened the closet BNP apologists to come out, if not in actual Public, but in Forums like this, as they argue for Leave and the destruction of the UK.
Traitors to Great Britain, Little Englander's, Society's failures seeking fascist comradeship - fawning over Boris who fits the type of Leader they would follow.
PH NP&E is a good window into that horrible place, the decrepit underbelly of England. Fascinating, in its own way.
Traitors to Great Britain, Little Englander's, Society's failures seeking fascist comradeship - fawning over Boris who fits the type of Leader they would follow.
PH NP&E is a good window into that horrible place, the decrepit underbelly of England. Fascinating, in its own way.
JustALooseScrew said:
Pesty said:
Peoples republic of Yorkshire
Everybody sing our national anthem
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee,
On Ilkla Moor baht 'at?!
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee?
Bring it on, my birth cert and passport would get me back in there. Everybody sing our national anthem
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee,
On Ilkla Moor baht 'at?!
Wheear 'as ta bin sin ah saw thee?
Last time I was over there I bought my son one of these:
Sorted!
The fight for North Yorkshire independence starts here!
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