The end of the Union, who'll go first?

[Nexus Icon]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

Only because we'd be "out" and right next door. The main thrust of the benefit he was praising was their seamless trade with the EU.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

To the benefit of relatively frictionless all Ireland trade.
Whilst not having the downside of having to be in the EU proper.
Please remember there are many negative aspects to the EU membership, and therefore reasons to leave, that offset any benefits from so-called 'seamless trade'.

[ArmaghMan]

Johnnytheboy said:

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.

By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.

Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?

The irony of Raab extolling the virtues of NI remaining in the EU, with an open border to Europe, is not lost on those of us with more than half a f**king brain cell. If only the whole UK could have such an opportunity. Oh, wait...

If only you had a few more, you've have worked out that it was NI's potentially 'half in, half out' status that would make it so attractive, but hey ho.

Attractive to whoom ?
So we're second class Brits? Nothing new there.
But not Irish, don't see that going down too well either!

[FredericRobinson]

One thing I don't know in all this is what the DUP want, it's not the UK staying in a customs union, or a border in the Irish sea, but it's not a hard border either is it?

[Disastrous]

El stovey said:

R8Steve said:

Coolbanana said:

Brexit has certainly emboldened the closet BNP apologists to come out, if not in actual Public, but in Forums like this, as they argue for Leave and the destruction of the UK.

Traitors to Great Britain, Little Englander's, Society's failures seeking fascist comradeship - fawning over Boris who fits the type of Leader they would follow.

PH NP&E is a good window into that horrible place, the decrepit underbelly of England. Fascinating, in its own way.

Well said!

It’s like reading the daily mail comments section. Funny but a bit depressing also.

People saying they want to see the breakup of the U.K. because someone they don’t like in their village is Scottish etc.

It’s the same posters always in the brexit threads though, blaming foreigners and young people and elites for their ills.

Agreed. Isaac Hunt is (I hope) not representative of your typical English woman. If she is, it’s too depressing to contemplate. I’d prefer not to judge the character of the whole country on just her though!

[JustALooseScrew]

this thread.
Please tell me that absolutely no one thought this was in anyway serious.



Anyone thinking that is anyway xenophobic needs to get a grip on that lost bar of slippery soap in the bath that used to be called a sense of humour.

Yerksher!

[anonymous-user]

Yok-sher!!! Ay-up!

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 21st October 18:49

[StanleyT]

After hearing what my Dad (South Yorks high up in schools dept) had to go through when dealing with David Blunket and his Cronies (they in their day make Corbyn today look toothless and tame) I invite the reader to familiarise themselves with the quite serious at the time breakaway movement of the P[SS]RoSY....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_...



From my collection that I used to wear on my teenage angst donkey jacket to wind my dad up..........

[anonymous-user]

StanleyT said:

After hearing what my Dad (South Yorks high up in schools dept) had to go through when dealing with David Blunket and his Cronies (they in their day make Corbyn today look toothless and tame) I invite the reader to familiarise themselves with the quite serious at the time breakaway movement of the P[SS]RoSY....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_...



From my collection that I used to wear on my teenage angst donkey jacket to wind my dad up..........

I lived in Sheffield for a while and had an independent republic of Yorkshire T-shirt made by one of the breweries. This was the early 90s so maybe they’d ditched the socialist bit. It was pretty left wing there though with people still upset over the miners (strike)

[anonymous-user]

JustALooseScrew said:

this thread.
Please tell me that absolutely no one thought this was in anyway serious.



Anyone thinking that is anyway xenophobic needs to get a grip on that lost bar of slippery soap in the bath that used to be called a sense of humour.

Yerksher!

Nobody thought it was serious or xenophobic.

[StanleyT]

El stovey said:

StanleyT said:

After hearing what my Dad (South Yorks high up in schools dept) had to go through when dealing with David Blunket and his Cronies (they in their day make Corbyn today look toothless and tame) I invite the reader to familiarise themselves with the quite serious at the time breakaway movement of the P[SS]RoSY....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Republic_...



From my collection that I used to wear on my teenage angst donkey jacket to wind my dad up..........

I lived in Sheffield for a while and had an independent republic of Yorkshire T-shirt made by one of the breweries. This was the early 90s so maybe they’d ditched the socialist bit. It was pretty left wing there though with people still upset over the miners (strike)

Remember the 10p / 2p bus fares anywhere in the city!

[Nexus Icon]

Johnnytheboy said:

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.

By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.

Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?

The irony of Raab extolling the virtues of NI remaining in the EU, with an open border to Europe, is not lost on those of us with more than half a f**king brain cell. If only the whole UK could have such an opportunity. Oh, wait...

If only you had a few more, you've have worked out that it was NI's potentially 'half in, half out' status that would make it so attractive, but hey ho.

"Half in, half out," you say? It turns out we won't be having frictionless trade with NI then because there will be a customs border between NI and the mainland, as stated last night in parliament. Therefore the advantage that Raab describes is as simple as not having a border with the EU. We have that now... or, just perhaps, Raab actaully thought NI would be "half in, half out," with the advantages that would bring, and it turns out he's just another f**king idiot responsible for our futures.

[Johnnytheboy]

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.

By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.

Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?

The irony of Raab extolling the virtues of NI remaining in the EU, with an open border to Europe, is not lost on those of us with more than half a f**king brain cell. If only the whole UK could have such an opportunity. Oh, wait...

If only you had a few more, you've have worked out that it was NI's potentially 'half in, half out' status that would make it so attractive, but hey ho.

"Half in, half out," you say? It turns out we won't be having frictionless trade with NI then because there will be a customs border between NI and the mainland, as stated last night in parliament. Therefore the advantage that Raab describes is as simple as not having a border with the EU. We have that now... or, just perhaps, Raab actaully thought NI would be "half in, half out," with the advantages that would bring, and it turns out he's just another f**king idiot responsible for our futures.

Dear heavens, this is painful.

UK leaves EU.

You with me so far?

UK and EU form trade agreement.

UK is trading with rest of world on (perhaps only slightly) different terms to the EU as a result.

Northern Ireland is in the slightly Schrodinger-esque situation of being partially in both the EU and UK trade regimes.

If you were a global company wanting to set up a European HQ, would you set it up in Southern or Northern Ireland?

[Toaster]

Johnnytheboy said:

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.

By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.

Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?

The irony of Raab extolling the virtues of NI remaining in the EU, with an open border to Europe, is not lost on those of us with more than half a f**king brain cell. If only the whole UK could have such an opportunity. Oh, wait...

If only you had a few more, you've have worked out that it was NI's potentially 'half in, half out' status that would make it so attractive, but hey ho.

"Half in, half out," you say? It turns out we won't be having frictionless trade with NI then because there will be a customs border between NI and the mainland, as stated last night in parliament. Therefore the advantage that Raab describes is as simple as not having a border with the EU. We have that now... or, just perhaps, Raab actaully thought NI would be "half in, half out," with the advantages that would bring, and it turns out he's just another f**king idiot responsible for our futures.

Dear heavens, this is painful.

UK leaves EU.

You with me so far?

UK and EU form trade agreement.

UK is trading with rest of world on (perhaps only slightly) different terms to the EU as a result.

Northern Ireland is in the slightly Schrodinger-esque situation of being partially in both the EU and UK trade regimes.

If you were a global company wanting to set up a European HQ, would you set it up in Southern or Northern Ireland?

Ah yes Leave EU, UK workers rights are fked as the economy needs you to work for nothing so the economy can do well blah blah blah the ERG needs you to do this

[slow_poke]

FredericRobinson said:

One thing I don't know in all this is what the DUP want, it's not the UK staying in a customs union, or a border in the Irish sea, but it's not a hard border either is it?

They want control. It's embedded in their history and Unionist DNA. Prior, history gave them that control via gerrymandered borders and majority rule. Now, that majority has evaporated and they're seeking to maintain their grip via a veto.

But nobody's buying what they're trying to hawk. Not Westminster, not Dublin, not Brussels.

[anonymous-user]

Johnnytheboy said:

If you were a global company wanting to set up a European HQ, would you set it up in Southern or Northern Ireland?

I appreciate the logic but have you been to NI? (To be fair I've only been to Belfast!)

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 22 October 16:25

[Terminator X]

None of them. Scotland had their vote and decided already ... once in a lifetime etc. Hmm heard that somewhere else too

TX.

[Budflicker]

Coolbanana said:

Brexit has certainly emboldened the closet BNP apologists to come out, if not in actual Public, but in Forums like this, as they argue for Leave and the destruction of the UK.

Traitors to Great Britain, Little Englander's, Society's failures seeking fascist comradeship - fawning over Boris who fits the type of Leader they would follow.

PH NP&E is a good window into that horrible place, the decrepit underbelly of England. Fascinating, in its own way.

Don't you think that might be a little bit strong?

I won't insult you but I am happy to engage with you?

I really don't believe that many people outside of Ireland either North or South really care too much whether or not Ireland is reunited or not.
In fact probably the same can be said for Scotland as well with regards to independence. One thing is for sure they wouldn't let a future referendum on Scottish independence or Irish reunification be voted on by the whole UK would they.

Demographics in Northern Ireland will eventually lead to a united Eire at some point in the future, Scotland, who knows?

i'm not sure Nicola Sturgeon will have the front to want to leave the UK and install a hard border while Scotland stays in the EU.

Interesting times for certain.

Edited by Budflicker on Tuesday 22 October 21:23

[ArmaghMan]

Johnnytheboy said:

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Nexus Icon said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Someone on Radio 4 suggested that NI could actually end up being in a very favourable economic position if this deal goes through.

By being both in the EU and in the UK it would become a great place for non EU companies to site their European operations.

Perhaps the government should bribe NI with some kind of pro-business tax regime to make this even more attractive...?

The irony of Raab extolling the virtues of NI remaining in the EU, with an open border to Europe, is not lost on those of us with more than half a f**king brain cell. If only the whole UK could have such an opportunity. Oh, wait...

If only you had a few more, you've have worked out that it was NI's potentially 'half in, half out' status that would make it so attractive, but hey ho.

"Half in, half out," you say? It turns out we won't be having frictionless trade with NI then because there will be a customs border between NI and the mainland, as stated last night in parliament. Therefore the advantage that Raab describes is as simple as not having a border with the EU. We have that now... or, just perhaps, Raab actaully thought NI would be "half in, half out," with the advantages that would bring, and it turns out he's just another f**king idiot responsible for our futures.

Dear heavens, this is painful.

UK leaves EU.

You with me so far?

UK and EU form trade agreement.

UK is trading with rest of world on (perhaps only slightly) different terms to the EU as a result.

Northern Ireland is in the slightly Schrodinger-esque situation of being partially in both the EU and UK trade regimes.

If you were a global company wanting to set up a European HQ, would you set it up in Southern or Northern Ireland?

c

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this is a rhetorical question

[anonymous-user]

Terminator X said:

None of them. Scotland had their vote and decided already ... once in a lifetime etc. Hmm heard that somewhere else too

TX.

'Lifetime' and 'a generation' is 5 years according to the SNP.

it will be for Salmond if he gets done for rape.