How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 13)

How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 13)

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bitchstewie

51,371 posts

211 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Johnson on Sophy Ridge this morning.

No forms no tariffs no checks.

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1203605490137...

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

158 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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bhstewie said:
Johnson on Sophy Ridge this morning.

No forms no tariffs no checks.

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1203605490137...
Did he officially say the leaked report is fictitious?

Mrr T

12,247 posts

266 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
bhstewie said:
Johnson on Sophy Ridge this morning.

No forms no tariffs no checks.

https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1203605490137...
Did he officially say the leaked report is fictitious?
It's completely made up there will be no checks on good moving between the UK and NI or vice versa. BJ has made that clear. He's also been explicit that he never ever lies.

Don't forget vote for BJ the liar. So he can deliver on his promises.

chrispmartha

15,501 posts

130 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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B'stard Child said:
gooner1 said:
chrispmartha said:
As I voted to remain and not change anything with regards to the NI Border why should I have considered it, other than thinking what we have works quite well.

It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
You didn't vote pre referendum.
Another one????? FFS how many people have we got on here that bh about the result but didn’t actually bother to put pen to paper - I thought it was just PM SIBI or whatever he wants to call himself this week
Erm, I voted, I think he was trying be sarcastic or something

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

199 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Anyone who wants to remain please ensure that we join the Euro Schengen and full fiscal union as that is what properly in is. If that’s what you want fine.

I don’t I want our always have.

Halfway house as was isn’t sustainable as wed be drifting from the EU core with less and less influence and finally an ultimatum your in or your out.

majordad

3,601 posts

198 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Hey Beefy, can you translate that Welsh into Irish or English we can all understand.

FiF

44,121 posts

252 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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majordad said:
Hey Beefy, can you translate that Welsh into Irish or English we can all understand.
I'll try.

He's saying that the old setup of being a member but sitting on the edge whinging about this and that wasn't any good for either side, didn't work terribly well then and won't in the future.

Therefore if people want to Remain then they should support fully in, Euro, Schengen, and be a fully supportive signed up member. He can respect that view.

Alternatively only other option is properly out, which option he has always desired.

(No doubt a correction will be in order after a sobering up exercise.)

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Welshbeef said:
Anyone who wants to remain please ensure that we join the Euro Schengen and full fiscal union as that is what properly in is. If that’s what you want fine.

I don’t I want our always have.

Halfway house as was isn’t sustainable as wed be drifting from the EU core with less and less influence and finally an ultimatum your in or your out.
If we leave the EU in the coming years (a big if), we will be full members incl Euro & Schengen when the next generation come through . 10 years or so.
After the witnessing of UKs demise under the leadership of the far right but jobs.
It’s still pretty funny that the BrexitErrs are taken in by Johnson/Farage & believe they are anti-establishment figures! Comedy gold wink

amgmcqueen

3,350 posts

151 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Jimboka said:
Welshbeef said:
Anyone who wants to remain please ensure that we join the Euro Schengen and full fiscal union as that is what properly in is. If that’s what you want fine.

I don’t I want our always have.

Halfway house as was isn’t sustainable as wed be drifting from the EU core with less and less influence and finally an ultimatum your in or your out.
If we leave the EU in the coming years (a big if), we will be full members incl Euro & Schengen when the next generation come through . 10 years or so.
After the witnessing of UKs demise under the leadership of the far right but jobs.
It’s still pretty funny that the BrexitErrs are taken in by Johnson/Farage & believe they are anti-establishment figures! Comedy gold wink
Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Clegg and May are 'far right nut jobs'....?! confused

230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Jimboka said:
If we leave the EU in the coming years (a big if), we will be full members incl Euro & Schengen when the next generation come through . 10 years or so.
After the witnessing of UKs demise under the leadership of the far right but jobs.
It’s still pretty funny that the BrexitErrs are taken in by Johnson/Farage & believe they are anti-establishment figures! Comedy gold wink
By the time your "next generation" pass forty, they'll be just as conservative as the over-forties are now. Your prediction has the fatal defect that it assumes the young will never age. Were it so, this country would have had perpetual Labour government since about 1925 and would probably by now make North Korea look prosperous.

barryrs

4,392 posts

224 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Fif, could I trouble you for a translation of the above too?

loafer123

15,448 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Jimboka said:
Welshbeef said:
Anyone who wants to remain please ensure that we join the Euro Schengen and full fiscal union as that is what properly in is. If that’s what you want fine.

I don’t I want our always have.

Halfway house as was isn’t sustainable as wed be drifting from the EU core with less and less influence and finally an ultimatum your in or your out.
If we leave the EU in the coming years (a big if), we will be full members incl Euro & Schengen when the next generation come through . 10 years or so.
After the witnessing of UKs demise under the leadership of the far right but jobs.
It’s still pretty funny that the BrexitErrs are taken in by Johnson/Farage & believe they are anti-establishment figures! Comedy gold wink
The only comedy gold is your post.

It is clear that we do not want to be part of a federal European state and that is ultimately what the aim of the EU is and, to be fair, needs to be in order to survive.

Once we leave there is no going back.

tangerine_sedge

4,796 posts

219 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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FiF said:
majordad said:
Hey Beefy, can you translate that Welsh into Irish or English we can all understand.
I'll try.

He's saying that the old setup of being a member but sitting on the edge whinging about this and that wasn't any good for either side, didn't work terribly well then and won't in the future.

Therefore if people want to Remain then they should support fully in, Euro, Schengen, and be a fully supportive signed up member. He can respect that view.

Alternatively only other option is properly out, which option he has always desired.

(No doubt a correction will be in order after a sobering up exercise.)
Thanks for deciphering his ramblings. How about the 3rd option, the best of both worlds that we have now.

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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chrispmartha said:
B'stard Child said:
gooner1 said:
chrispmartha said:
As I voted to remain and not change anything with regards to the NI Border why should I have considered it, other than thinking what we have works quite well.

It was those that wanted to change things that has the responsibility of stating what those changes will mean.
You didn't vote pre referendum.
Another one????? FFS how many people have we got on here that bh about the result but didn’t actually bother to put pen to paper - I thought it was just PM SIBI or whatever he wants to call himself this week
Erm, I voted, I think he was trying be sarcastic or something
Erm, and I think you are being disengenious by not including sibi's post in your answer to BC.

I have never stated or thought that you had not voted.

I'd do it myself BC, but I think you know how crap at this multi quoting malarkey I am.
Scroll back a page or two, if you are interested. Personally, I wouldn't bother. smile

Robertj21a

16,478 posts

106 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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tangerine_sedge said:
Thanks for deciphering his ramblings. How about the 3rd option, the best of both worlds that we have now.
Well, I seem to recall that we had a democratic vote on the subject and 52% didn't want what we have now.

I couldn't agree more.

frisbee

4,979 posts

111 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Robertj21a said:
Well, I seem to recall that we had a democratic vote on the subject and 52% didn't want what we have now.

I couldn't agree more.
48% are quite happy with what we have now.

So we are going to do everything we can to fk Brexit it up for you (although to be fair you are doing a far better job of that than we could ever hope to dorofl).

Screw it, I have the luxury of not being British so: Let the UK burn!smash

Robertj21a

16,478 posts

106 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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frisbee said:
Robertj21a said:
Well, I seem to recall that we had a democratic vote on the subject and 52% didn't want what we have now.

I couldn't agree more.
48% are quite happy with what we have now.

So we are going to do everything we can to fk Brexit it up for you (although to be fair you are doing a far better job of that than we could ever hope to dorofl).

Screw it, I have the luxury of not being British so: Let the UK burn!smash
Thank you. It always interests me to see immature people have a tantrum when they don't like how things are going.

biglaugh

230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Robertj21a said:
frisbee said:
Robertj21a said:
Well, I seem to recall that we had a democratic vote on the subject and 52% didn't want what we have now.

I couldn't agree more.
48% are quite happy with what we have now.

So we are going to do everything we can to fk Brexit it up for you (although to be fair you are doing a far better job of that than we could ever hope to dorofl).

Screw it, I have the luxury of not being British so: Let the UK burn!smash
Thank you. It always interests me to see immature people have a tantrum when they don't like how things are going.

biglaugh
Just shaking my head in disbelief at some of the people on here. All the self-awareness of a dead wombat.

frisbee

4,979 posts

111 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Robertj21a said:
Thank you. It always interests me to see immature people have a tantrum when they don't like how things are going.

biglaugh
Oh? I wasn't aware that we had actually left.

Tuna

19,930 posts

285 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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amgmcqueen said:
Jimboka said:
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After the witnessing of UKs demise under the leadership of the far right but jobs.
It’s still pretty funny that the BrexitErrs are taken in by Johnson/Farage & believe they are anti-establishment figures! Comedy gold wink
Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, Clegg and May are 'far right nut jobs'....?! confused
No, I think Jimbo was quite clear that they're far right but jobs. Maybe he missed out a 't'? Far right butt jobs? Makes about as much sense as the rest of his ramblings biggrin
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