NHS Nurse asks Strangers for Donations
Discussion
Sten. said:
Can't afford to pay her bills and wants me to help, but still contributes 9.3% of her income to her pension.
While it's stupid to drop out, given her pleas I'm amazed she is still in the pension. One of my daughters works in the NHS and she's still in, but doesn't know anyone else amongst her peers who's still is - they just say they can't afford it. Most also have student loans of similar amounts too.Its looks like she is on band 5 of the NHS pay scale which would have that pension contribution.
£30k is not a bad wage in the NHS, there are plenty of people on band 2 or 3 which is not a lot of money each month, there are lots of people stuck on low bands with no progresion prospects.
Its only when you get on band 5 and above good money is earned.
£30k is not a bad wage in the NHS, there are plenty of people on band 2 or 3 which is not a lot of money each month, there are lots of people stuck on low bands with no progresion prospects.
Its only when you get on band 5 and above good money is earned.
pequod said:
borcy said:
pequod said:
I don't know the circumstances of this nurse, and frankly can't be bothered to invest time finding out, but she is one of millions of young ladies who have the 'want it all and want it now' mentality that social norms back in the dark ages prevented, including the so-called shotgun weddings.
I shan't be donating!
You know nothing of her circumstances yet know she wants it all and wants it now? I shan't be donating!
HTH
Your full post about her requiring a husband highlights what a sheltered person you are. You have no idea what it’s like in the real world (wouldn’t surprise me if you live with mother still).
pequod said:
If you read my post I am not singling her out but simply highlighting that a single mother with a career and cannot make ends meet, apparently, is a function of modern society and there are a hell of lot more that don't even bother with the 'career' or husband/partner bit but expect to still have the 'want it all and want it now' mentality and I haven't even started on foreign holidays ... 'cos they so need a break!
HTH
So not a clue about her. HTH
Cheers.
Strange that the Mirror has deleted the story. I guess it hasn't gone down well with the NHS?
The Metro still has the story. They say she was also asking for money to pay for a holiday in June.
She will be getting benefits on top of her salary and the father should be contributing too.
I hate all this personal funding and Gofundme garbage. It's now becoming perfectly normal and acceptable to ask strangers for money for just about any circumstance.
The Metro still has the story. They say she was also asking for money to pay for a holiday in June.
She will be getting benefits on top of her salary and the father should be contributing too.
I hate all this personal funding and Gofundme garbage. It's now becoming perfectly normal and acceptable to ask strangers for money for just about any circumstance.
Edited by Driver101 on Wednesday 23 October 13:18
Badda said:
I’ve never heard of a nurse as being a career for those who ‘want it all’.
Your full post about her requiring a husband highlights what a sheltered person you are. You have no idea what it’s like in the real world (wouldn’t surprise me if you live with mother still).
Real world you say...and yet he's not the one begging on the internet.Your full post about her requiring a husband highlights what a sheltered person you are. You have no idea what it’s like in the real world (wouldn’t surprise me if you live with mother still).
Society has changed, so calling out the lack of a husband/ partner won't get any traction outside the daily mail comments column (and here). But the wisdom of that decision is evident in the nurse's need to beg.
On the flip side: the economy needs nurses, and i'd rather she work than just stay at home.
London needs low /medium pay workers, who are genuinely priced out of living nearby the capital. This is a societal change too of course, but as it is more to do with the uk housing and investment market than feckless ladies ""wanting it all" it's not getting as much discussion.
I would have thought between the london bonus, in work tax credits and child benefits the economy should support nurses to work in the capital, even if they have chosen to have children, and then bring them up on their own.
(I'm assuming she's not a widow, but then she'd probably have mentioned that in her post).
Quite ridiculous.
Regardless of job or it's supposed 'worth', over £2k net per month is quite adequate for most and a dream for many.
Of course there will be much more to this and has been said, some unmentioned income likely. To go begging when all those aspects are of your own making is rather silly.
Regardless of job or it's supposed 'worth', over £2k net per month is quite adequate for most and a dream for many.
Of course there will be much more to this and has been said, some unmentioned income likely. To go begging when all those aspects are of your own making is rather silly.
The narrow point is that this prima facie is a person on a good wage, who feels it acceptable to ask for public donations because she can’t make ends meet. There will be many earning in positions much tougher than hers.
The broader point is that it’s symptomatic of a few structural societal changes.
London (and the South East generally) is increasingly detached from the rest of the country - to live and work with a family comfortably in the capital you need not just a good wage, but a stellar one.
There’s a general decreasing willingness to accept low living standards - we forget in the ‘old days’ there were lots of people living in fairly gritty conditions with very little by way of material possessions; many of those people were invisible to the broader public, or at least lacked a mechanism to get their voice heard. Technology has changed that; and with it changed perceptions of what people deem acceptable behaviour.
The broader point is that it’s symptomatic of a few structural societal changes.
London (and the South East generally) is increasingly detached from the rest of the country - to live and work with a family comfortably in the capital you need not just a good wage, but a stellar one.
There’s a general decreasing willingness to accept low living standards - we forget in the ‘old days’ there were lots of people living in fairly gritty conditions with very little by way of material possessions; many of those people were invisible to the broader public, or at least lacked a mechanism to get their voice heard. Technology has changed that; and with it changed perceptions of what people deem acceptable behaviour.
Driver101 said:
Strange that the Mirror has deleted the story. I guess itnwasnt gone down well with the NHS?
The Metro still has the story. They say she was also asking for money to pay for a holiday in June.
She will be getting benefits on top of her salary and the father should be contributing too.
I hate all this personal funding and Gofundme garbage. It's now becoming perfectly normal and acceptable to ask strangers for money for just about any circumstance.
I wouldn't be surprised if she gets sacked - the NHS doesn't like its staff talking to the press without permission.The Metro still has the story. They say she was also asking for money to pay for a holiday in June.
She will be getting benefits on top of her salary and the father should be contributing too.
I hate all this personal funding and Gofundme garbage. It's now becoming perfectly normal and acceptable to ask strangers for money for just about any circumstance.
It’s an interesting question about professional / educated public sector jobs in central London vs the cost of living and or commuting into the city.
In her case (according to the BBC) she can’t afford to live anywhere near London. Which could explain the commuting cost?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23234033
How do we get the best people to work in London? Or should they all just choose to work in the counties or go on the council house lists?
In her case (according to the BBC) she can’t afford to live anywhere near London. Which could explain the commuting cost?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23234033
How do we get the best people to work in London? Or should they all just choose to work in the counties or go on the council house lists?
Sheepshanks said:
I wouldn't be surprised if she gets sacked - the NHS doesn't like its staff talking to the press without permission.
Sacked for what? Saleen836 said:
But doesn't pension deduction come from the gross earnings?
If so her salary should show as £35k ish not £30k ish
You get tax relief on NHS pension as it is deducted before tax is deductedIf so her salary should show as £35k ish not £30k ish
Edited by pavarotti1980 on Wednesday 23 October 09:18
Just another shameless chancer happy to exploit the abundance of gullible morons online who are easily parted of their cash in my opinion. I know that's going to be rather blasphemous because she works for the NHS and they're all seen as infallible but she's human like the rest of us and subject to the same flaws and misgivings.
As another poster said, the likes of GoFundMe have normalised begging and made it acceptable whereas before people would have had a bit of dignity about them.
A quick Google suggests she's probably also entitled to some DLA (and more Child Tax Credit as a result) for her autistic child. I don't think she's being honest about her earnings here.
As another poster said, the likes of GoFundMe have normalised begging and made it acceptable whereas before people would have had a bit of dignity about them.
A quick Google suggests she's probably also entitled to some DLA (and more Child Tax Credit as a result) for her autistic child. I don't think she's being honest about her earnings here.
Im sorry I agree with a lot of posters here - having a child outside of wedlock and living in London and not being on top top money, are kind of incompatible life choices. I dont have any kids and dont think I could afford to live in London and have the life I expect i.e. I cut my cloth to suit.
S100HP said:
£579 sounds suspiciously like a car finance amount to me, ie £279 for car, £300 for fuel/insurance/tax.
What a ridiculous thing to say. It could be anything. You're just plucking figures out of the sky to suit the rhetoric and join others moaning about this poor nurse whom we know nothing about.
We should be grateful people choose to work for the NHS, not criticising them.
Also people saying move closer etc, what if she is a specialist nurse at a hospital in an area which costs more to rent than she pays currently.
She doesn't even pay that much rent either.
People need to out themselves in other folk's shoes... Imagine doing what is probably a very tough job whilst raising a child and being skint and having to ask for help. Particularly this time of year with Christmas round the corner.
I feel sorry for her myself.
It’s pretty clear that for ~700 a month you’re not going to be renting a place too near London with two bedrooms. As a result, it’s quite believable that a monthly travel card is £600 or so. It’s also clear that a long commute and being a single parent will require costly child care to cover.
So far, so reasonable. We can also assume that we do need cardiology nurses working in central London, and that they do a valuable job.
The question is whether we need this particular nurse working there, or whether it would make more sense for her to work in a more local hospital...
So far, so reasonable. We can also assume that we do need cardiology nurses working in central London, and that they do a valuable job.
The question is whether we need this particular nurse working there, or whether it would make more sense for her to work in a more local hospital...
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