Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 6)
Discussion
robinessex said:
Climate change is causing birds to shrink, study says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
As the climate warms, birds are shrinking and their wingspans are growing, according to a new study...continues
So where is the hard concrete evidence of this? The story is just reporting a study. Not enough to attribute the findings to anything. It seems as if whatever happens in nature these days is attributed to CC.
Tag the paper to CC = funding https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
As the climate warms, birds are shrinking and their wingspans are growing, according to a new study...continues
So where is the hard concrete evidence of this? The story is just reporting a study. Not enough to attribute the findings to anything. It seems as if whatever happens in nature these days is attributed to CC.
Germany is in the top 3 of the most extreme climate event affected countries in the world.
https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
Kawasicki said:
Germany is in the top 3 of the most extreme climate event affected countries in the world.
https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
I'm waiting for the clear link then.https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
robinessex said:
Kawasicki said:
Germany is in the top 3 of the most extreme climate event affected countries in the world.
https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
I'm waiting for the clear link then.https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
Could it BE any clearer?
Kawasicki said:
robinessex said:
Kawasicki said:
Germany is in the top 3 of the most extreme climate event affected countries in the world.
https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
I'm waiting for the clear link then.https://germanwatch.org/sites/germanwatch.org/file...
“Recent science has found a clear link between climate change and the frequency and severity of extreme heat. In Europe, for example, extreme heat spells are now up to 100 times more likely to occur than a century ago.
Send help.
Could it BE any clearer?
New South Wales bushfires: 'Mega blaze' warning near Sydney
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-5068008...
About 100 bushfires are raging in the Australian state of New South Wales (NSW), with the most severe forming into a "mega blaze" north of Sydney.
More than 2,000 firefighters are battling bushfires, which escalated in intensity late on Thursday.
Footage of one blaze on the southern fringe of the city showed firefighters fleeing as flames surged forward.
Australia's largest city has been blanketed by thick smoke all week, causing a rise in medical problems.
Since October, bushfires have killed six people and destroyed more than 700 homes across Australia.
The severity of the blazes so early in the fire season has caused alarm, and prompted calls for greater action to tackle climate change......continues
Bush fires are NOTHING to do with CC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-5068008...
About 100 bushfires are raging in the Australian state of New South Wales (NSW), with the most severe forming into a "mega blaze" north of Sydney.
More than 2,000 firefighters are battling bushfires, which escalated in intensity late on Thursday.
Footage of one blaze on the southern fringe of the city showed firefighters fleeing as flames surged forward.
Australia's largest city has been blanketed by thick smoke all week, causing a rise in medical problems.
Since October, bushfires have killed six people and destroyed more than 700 homes across Australia.
The severity of the blazes so early in the fire season has caused alarm, and prompted calls for greater action to tackle climate change......continues
Bush fires are NOTHING to do with CC
From economist Dr Ruth Lea ex-Civil Service and Institute of Directors:
- while (western) politicians celebrate their increasingly ambitious decarbonisation targets, most of the world is ignoring them
- "the UK now represents just 1% of global emissions, so any reduction we make will not even be noticed"
- "however it will be offset many times over by increases in the developing world, which continues to burn cheap coal and gas as fast as it can"
- politicians’ determination to be seen to ‘do something’ about climate change carries major political risks
- “the decarbonisation programme that we are embarking on will be extraordinarily expensive and will hit businesses and consumers harder every year, that can’t carry on for ever, and eventually a major political price will be paid”
Actress Emma Thompson has warned us of a "climate emergency" and we'll all have to become bunny-boilers to survive.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/emma-thompson-delivers-c...
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/emma-thompson-delivers-c...
Czech Prime Minister Andrej Babiš has threatened to veto Europe’s goal of becoming the first climate-neutral continent in the world by 2050, adding his voice to a growing chorus of discontent as EU leaders prepare for heated climate discussions at a summit in Brussels next week.
EurActiv, 05 December 2019
EurActiv, 05 December 2019
Langweilig said:
Actress Emma Thompson has warned us of a "climate emergency" and we'll all have to become bunny-boilers to survive.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/emma-thompson-delivers-c...
The UK's own Jane Fonda replacement in waiting.https://uk.news.yahoo.com/emma-thompson-delivers-c...
Climate change: Greta Thunberg mobbed at UN climate talks
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg was mobbed by press and delegates as she made her first visit to UN climate talks in Madrid.
Ms Thunberg joined a youth demonstration inside the conference which was quickly swamped by spectators eager to catch a glimpse of Greta.
Amid shouts of "leave her alone" from concerned observers, she was escorted away by UN security staff.
She is due to take part in a climate protest march in Madrid later.
Ms Thunberg has arrived in Madrid following a voyage across the Atlantic by yacht.
The hope among many here is that the scale of the march and her speech to the COP next week will give a big boost to the talks process that seems badly in need of a lift.
This COP started with great hope last Monday, with strong words from the UN secretary-general and others, warning that time is running out and that negotiators should be guided by the science.
Since then, the urgency has given way to frustration.
Little obvious progress is being made on the central question of raising countries' ambitions to cut carbon.
Indeed, the UN climate chief Patricia Espinosa said the issue of increased pledges wasn't even on the agenda for the final outcome from this conference.
"We don't have in the agenda one item that's called 'ambition' and, therefore, it's not like we are expecting to have a specific decision on that."
In the face of several recent scientific reports stating that countries were falling further behind when it comes to meeting the Paris agreement targets, this was a little disturbing, to say the least............continues
Oh dear, it looks as if the party might be over soon !!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
Swedish climate activist Greta Thunberg was mobbed by press and delegates as she made her first visit to UN climate talks in Madrid.
Ms Thunberg joined a youth demonstration inside the conference which was quickly swamped by spectators eager to catch a glimpse of Greta.
Amid shouts of "leave her alone" from concerned observers, she was escorted away by UN security staff.
She is due to take part in a climate protest march in Madrid later.
Ms Thunberg has arrived in Madrid following a voyage across the Atlantic by yacht.
The hope among many here is that the scale of the march and her speech to the COP next week will give a big boost to the talks process that seems badly in need of a lift.
This COP started with great hope last Monday, with strong words from the UN secretary-general and others, warning that time is running out and that negotiators should be guided by the science.
Since then, the urgency has given way to frustration.
Little obvious progress is being made on the central question of raising countries' ambitions to cut carbon.
Indeed, the UN climate chief Patricia Espinosa said the issue of increased pledges wasn't even on the agenda for the final outcome from this conference.
"We don't have in the agenda one item that's called 'ambition' and, therefore, it's not like we are expecting to have a specific decision on that."
In the face of several recent scientific reports stating that countries were falling further behind when it comes to meeting the Paris agreement targets, this was a little disturbing, to say the least............continues
Oh dear, it looks as if the party might be over soon !!!
I've always been baffled by this disconnect that seems to occur at these COP beanos. I assume they are filled with politicians like Ed Davey/Caroline Lucas who are all desperate to show how green they are yet when it comes down to it and reality bites none of them want to commit.
Is it because whilst the Ed Davey/Caroline Lucas types make the most noise, the people we actually send to do the negotiations do have a grip on reality and are less inclined to sign us up to whatever madness the green lobby comes out with?
Is it because whilst the Ed Davey/Caroline Lucas types make the most noise, the people we actually send to do the negotiations do have a grip on reality and are less inclined to sign us up to whatever madness the green lobby comes out with?
El stovey said:
robinessex said:
El stovey said:
Looks like Robinessex’s month ban has just finished. 
So the source of the ban has shownJinx said:
robinessex said:
Climate change is causing birds to shrink, study says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
As the climate warms, birds are shrinking and their wingspans are growing, according to a new study...continues
So where is the hard concrete evidence of this? The story is just reporting a study. Not enough to attribute the findings to anything. It seems as if whatever happens in nature these days is attributed to CC.
Tag the paper to CC = funding https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
As the climate warms, birds are shrinking and their wingspans are growing, according to a new study...continues
So where is the hard concrete evidence of this? The story is just reporting a study. Not enough to attribute the findings to anything. It seems as if whatever happens in nature these days is attributed to CC.
https://youtu.be/W-Wq_LwusLY
I have defended the BBC on here for many a time, but this is beyond defending
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
Climate change: Oceans running out of oxygen as temperatures rise
Running out of oyxgen...
If you follow the path, rather than a scientific paper you get, on page 10
a crab rolling it's eyes.
Of come on !
I do like the BBC, being a pinko who thinks the question time panel in general is ok, but what de f
k
WHERES THE SCIENCE. This is just a link to a PDF in effect !
https://portals.iucn.org/library/sites/library/fil...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-506...
Climate change: Oceans running out of oxygen as temperatures rise
Running out of oyxgen...
If you follow the path, rather than a scientific paper you get, on page 10
a crab rolling it's eyes.
Of come on !
I do like the BBC, being a pinko who thinks the question time panel in general is ok, but what de f
kWHERES THE SCIENCE. This is just a link to a PDF in effect !
https://portals.iucn.org/library/sites/library/fil...
Edited by Gandahar on Saturday 7th December 17:52
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