Climate change - the POLITICAL debate (Vol 6)

[anonymous-user]

Diderot said:

kerplunk said:

I'm thinking climate change deniers are just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about a communist world takeover. 50 years ago we were worried about the USSR but now it's the IPCC!!

Who specifically is 'denying' that climate changes?

You’ve a climate change denier, that’s doesn’t mean you’re denying that the climate changes.

[kerplunk]

STR160 said:

kerplunk said:

I'm thinking climate change deniers are just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about a communist world takeover. 50 years ago we were worried about the USSR but now it's the IPCC!!

Both equally bad. Both equally worthy to fight against.

But there was no world takeover by the USSR so it follows that we don't need to worry about the IPCC

Or something

[kerplunk]

Diderot said:

kerplunk said:

I'm thinking climate change deniers are just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about a communist world takeover. 50 years ago we were worried about the USSR but now it's the IPCC!!

Who specifically is 'denying' that climate changes?

Who is being a literal idiot?

[kerplunk]

This afternoon I'm thinking climate change denial is just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about our wad. 150 years ago it was the abolition of slavery and now it's the abolition of fossil fuels!!

[Kawasicki]

kerplunk said:

This afternoon I'm thinking climate change denial is just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about our wad. 150 years ago it was the abolition of slavery and now it's the abolition of fossil fuels!!

Everything comes down to money in the end.

Wasn't the shift away from fossil fuels to renewable energy meant to generate a big cost saving?

[zygalski]

Kawasicki said:

Everything comes down to money in the end.

Wasn't the shift away from fossil fuels to renewable energy meant to generate a big cost saving?

Yeah and not everyone drives an electric powered car yet.
So much for progress!

[Jinx]

El stovey said:

You’ve a climate change denier, that’s doesn’t mean you’re denying that the climate changes.

There is a very important word in that description - "Unwarranted"

[Kawasicki]

zygalski said:

Kawasicki said:

Everything comes down to money in the end.

Wasn't the shift away from fossil fuels to renewable energy meant to generate a big cost saving?

Yeah and not everyone drives an electric powered car yet.
So much for progress!

We're running out of time. The emergency is here and now.

[zygalski]

Kawasicki said:

zygalski said:

Kawasicki said:

Everything comes down to money in the end.

Wasn't the shift away from fossil fuels to renewable energy meant to generate a big cost saving?

Yeah and not everyone drives an electric powered car yet.
So much for progress!

We're running out of time. The emergency is here and now.

Well the consensus is that urgent action is required now, and things are changing fairly rapidly, regardless of whether you like it or not.

[Diderot]

El stovey said:

Diderot said:

kerplunk said:

I'm thinking climate change deniers are just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about a communist world takeover. 50 years ago we were worried about the USSR but now it's the IPCC!!

Who specifically is 'denying' that climate changes?

You’ve a climate change denier, that’s doesn’t mean you’re denying that the climate changes.

Thanks for the wkypedia screen grab. And by the way, I don't have a climate change denier.

[Diderot]

kerplunk said:

Diderot said:

kerplunk said:

I'm thinking climate change deniers are just the latest manifestation of the human need to worry about a communist world takeover. 50 years ago we were worried about the USSR but now it's the IPCC!!

Who specifically is 'denying' that climate changes?

Who is being a literal idiot?

You?

[Diderot]

zygalski said:

Kawasicki said:

zygalski said:

Kawasicki said:

Everything comes down to money in the end.

Wasn't the shift away from fossil fuels to renewable energy meant to generate a big cost saving?

Yeah and not everyone drives an electric powered car yet.
So much for progress!

We're running out of time. The emergency is here and now.

Well the consensus is that urgent action is required now, and things are changing fairly rapidly, regardless of whether you like it or not.

It's ok, you can relax, my BEV arrives next month. We're all saved.

[Kawasicki]

zygalski said:

Kawasicki said:

zygalski said:

Kawasicki said:

Everything comes down to money in the end.

Wasn't the shift away from fossil fuels to renewable energy meant to generate a big cost saving?

Yeah and not everyone drives an electric powered car yet.
So much for progress!

We're running out of time. The emergency is here and now.

Well the consensus is that urgent action is required now, and things are changing fairly rapidly, regardless of whether you like it or not.

I love change, it is both my passion and, because I made it my job, it pays my bills too.

The consensus is that urgent action is always required.

Are things changing fairly rapidly? Er, no.
Are implausible promises being made? Yes.
Is there a serious deficit of searching questions, investigative analysis into these promises? Yes.
Are the people making the decisions acting on emotion, rather than logic? Yes.

[zygalski]

Changes are happening rapidly, but I meant with regards to the UK acting to mitigate AGW.
Carbon neutral by 2050.
No new non-electric cars for sale after 2030.
That sort of thing.

[Kawasicki]

zygalski said:

Changes are happening rapidly, but I meant with regards to the UK acting to mitigate AGW.
Carbon neutral by 2050.
No new non-electric cars for sale after 2030.
That sort of thing.

Does carbon neutral include consumption based emissions?

[Diderot]

zygalski said:

Changes are happening rapidly, but I meant with regards to the UK acting to mitigate AGW.
Carbon neutral by 2050.
No new non-electric cars for sale after 2030.
That sort of thing.

Apart from those pesky petrol/leccy hybrids on sale until 2035 ...

So what do you currently drive Zygalski?

[robinessex]

Climate change: UN virtual talks make little progress

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-575...

Exhausted delegates have concluded three weeks of virtual climate negotiations with little progress on key issues.
The UN subsidiary bodies meeting was meant to clear the decks ahead of the major COP26 gathering in Glasgow in November.
But technical glitches, and multiple time zones scuppered attempts to find common ground.
Ministers from 40 countries will meet in July to push the process forward.
Developing nations are also concerned that a lack of vaccines may limit their ability to take part in the Glasgow conference. ....continues

Oh dear, the party is not going well then !!

[garagewidow]

Diderot said:

Apart from those pesky petrol/leccy hybrids on sale until 2035 ...

So what do you currently drive Zygalski?

I can imagine him/her tooling around in a Dodge Charger with Hemis and a full on Holley double pumper,




edited for non sexual discrimination.

Edited by garagewidow on Saturday 19th June 01:03

[zygalski]

Diderot said:

Apart from those pesky petrol/leccy hybrids on sale until 2035 ...

So what do you currently drive Zygalski?

I’m wfh so sold my car 6 months ago & share the use of my wife’s company car. She also works from home.
Currently a full tank of petrol lasts us about 6 or 7 weeks.

Yourself?

[Diderot]

zygalski said:

Diderot said:

Apart from those pesky petrol/leccy hybrids on sale until 2035 ...

So what do you currently drive Zygalski?

I’m wfh so sold my car 6 months ago & share the use of my wife’s company car. She also works from home.
Currently a full tank of petrol lasts us about 6 or 7 weeks.

Yourself?

Currently down to one car (2005 Merc SL) as we got rid of our X3 last month. New leased Volvo XC40 P8 (BEV) arrives next month.