Bristol and Diesel ban
Discussion
egor110 said:
Why keep coming on to a thread entitled bristol & diesel ban to then moan about people talking about the bristol diesel ban ?
When you say ' and this is all because of you and you deserve it because you supported it initially ' are you referring to anyone in the uk who's ever owned a diesel , the people who voted in the current mayor of Bristol ?
No I’m not referring to anyone who’s owned a diesel. If anything I feel bad for most and I’m absolutely against this ban. What I do find hilarious is though the holier than thou, morally high bunch that said something along the lines of how they completely agree with the clean air zones because obviously it did not affect them, it only really affected the people with old cars who possibly could’ve been on lower income but now the tables have turned and those morally high people are complaining about being hit in the pocket. Do you realise why I find the irony so funny? When you say ' and this is all because of you and you deserve it because you supported it initially ' are you referring to anyone in the uk who's ever owned a diesel , the people who voted in the current mayor of Bristol ?
its good stuff in that sense. It's great news basically and the faster the ban is rolled out to all gridlocked urban areas the better.
It's not rocket science is it. EVs for cities and diesals for the motorways. Just get on with it and stop your moaning.
Yes it will cost a fortune but so does most stuff these days. Just sell a trident missle and convert the fleet already.
It's not rocket science is it. EVs for cities and diesals for the motorways. Just get on with it and stop your moaning.
Yes it will cost a fortune but so does most stuff these days. Just sell a trident missle and convert the fleet already.
Sambucket said:
It's great news basically and the faster the ban is rolled out to all gridlocked urban areas the better.
It's not rocket science is it. EVs for cities and diesals for the motorways. Just get on with it and stop your moaning.
Yes it will cost a fortune but so does most stuff these days. Just sell a trident missle and convert the fleet already.
Oh don’t worry, your turn will come too. It will be electric cars then it will be your energy supply. I can’t wait, it will be even more funny!! It's not rocket science is it. EVs for cities and diesals for the motorways. Just get on with it and stop your moaning.
Yes it will cost a fortune but so does most stuff these days. Just sell a trident missle and convert the fleet already.
Sambucket said:
It's great news basically and the faster the ban is rolled out to all gridlocked urban areas the better.
It's not rocket science is it. EVs for cities and diesals for the motorways. Just get on with it and stop your moaning.
Yes it will cost a fortune but so does most stuff these days. Just sell a trident missle and convert the fleet already.
If that's your view, and it's broadly mine, the solution isn't more of the same just you can't have a diesel engine. City travel needs a complete overhaul rather than stuff that just prices the poorest out. Ironically this be a Labour Council won't it, looking after the poorest as ever.It's not rocket science is it. EVs for cities and diesals for the motorways. Just get on with it and stop your moaning.
Yes it will cost a fortune but so does most stuff these days. Just sell a trident missle and convert the fleet already.
If everyone magically drives electric cars, the cities will still be gridlocked. If you want to sort that you need to increase capacity. My rough starting point would be to split each lane into two and restrict them to vehicles roughly along the lines of less than 200kg plus 50kg per passenger and 50mph top speed. And legislate to allow that class of vehicle to exist. Double capacity, move to electric, make driving cheap and fun again, clear up the streets and the air.
can you smell the fumes yet??They've announced what/what roads are effected in more detail iirc.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/br...
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/br...
B9 said:
Wow - All of hotwells, coronation rd, york road, some of the portway and the road between temple meads to cabot are all in the ban zone?
Interested to see how they've modelled traffic flows around that
Bristol traffic flow ? Interested to see how they've modelled traffic flows around that
BCC stopped giving a f
k about motorists a long time ago !Grahamdub said:
B9 said:
Wow - All of hotwells, coronation rd, york road, some of the portway and the road between temple meads to cabot are all in the ban zone?
Interested to see how they've modelled traffic flows around that
Bristol traffic flow ? Interested to see how they've modelled traffic flows around that
BCC stopped giving a f
k about motorists a long time ago !Well done, BCC! f
kwits.It’s impressive stuff for sure!
There some questions that I’d like answered but the few they’ve targeted seem to be ‘we’ll work that out next year’ in their q&a.
What if I need to get to the children’s hospital, Should I just call an ambulance?
If cars are ‘banned’ from entering the area between 7&3, can I arrive before seven and then drive around all day? If not, can I at least leave?
It seems the punishment for entering the area is a £60 fine, as long as I’m happy paying that can I continue to drive about? If I’m caught in the zone do I risk having my car taken?
There’s talk of a scrapage scheme, will this only be for bristol residents or those that work in the zone commuting from elsewhere also?
When’s the next mayor elections?
There some questions that I’d like answered but the few they’ve targeted seem to be ‘we’ll work that out next year’ in their q&a.
What if I need to get to the children’s hospital, Should I just call an ambulance?
If cars are ‘banned’ from entering the area between 7&3, can I arrive before seven and then drive around all day? If not, can I at least leave?
It seems the punishment for entering the area is a £60 fine, as long as I’m happy paying that can I continue to drive about? If I’m caught in the zone do I risk having my car taken?
There’s talk of a scrapage scheme, will this only be for bristol residents or those that work in the zone commuting from elsewhere also?
When’s the next mayor elections?
Edited by bristolbaron on Thursday 21st November 09:23
I see they have included the North end of Winterstoke road in diesel car ban, this means anyone coning in from the West has no obvious route to get across to Temple Meads and the East.
I was assuming I could come in on the Long Ashton bypass and then cut South round the city by using Winterstoke road, but they have decided to stop that happening.The only route I can see is to take the Long Ashton bypass to Bower Ashton then the A369 North, go over the Suspension Bridge and head North round the city using lots and lots of residential streets.
I was assuming I could come in on the Long Ashton bypass and then cut South round the city by using Winterstoke road, but they have decided to stop that happening.The only route I can see is to take the Long Ashton bypass to Bower Ashton then the A369 North, go over the Suspension Bridge and head North round the city using lots and lots of residential streets.
egor110 said:
How many of you are just swopping from diesel to petrol ?
We're keeping both of our diesels (V40 and Defender) and will buy a small cheap petrol for the commute. Speaking to other diesel owning locals, they will be doing the same, so instead of 6 month old diesels driving into the centre, there will be 10 year old petrol cars.Grahamdub said:
We're keeping both of our diesels (V40 and Defender) and will buy a small cheap petrol for the commute. Speaking to other diesel owning locals, they will be doing the same, so instead of 6 month old diesels driving into the centre, there will be 10 year old petrol cars.
I thought the whole point was, contrary to older advice, a 10 year old petrol is very likely better for nox air quality than a more modern diesel. Or am I misunderstanding?
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