Guy gets dog to kill cat? WTF is wrong with some people?

Guy gets dog to kill cat? WTF is wrong with some people?

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T-195

2,671 posts

61 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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We'll be calling, you Mulch fk.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Isn't the dog/cat/bird thing just about the animals "rank" in the general populations mind?

People love dogs so we let them kill a few kids and do very little about it. Cats come second so they can fk up millions of birds/mice, etc and no one cares. If cat's started bringing in a gutted Cockapoo to play with on the kitchen floor it wouldn't go down well! Same if the Red Kites always flying around here stared grabbing cats.....they'd cull the birds!

The reason dogs have tighter laws is because they can cause bigger problems. If dogs, when left to roam free, ONLY killed stuff up to cat size, I expect we'd let it go.

In an ideal world the bull breeds would eat their owners, cats would start jacking little old ladies and sparrows would gang up on any pet that sts in my garden. Then people would probably adopt a more sensible approach to animal ownership.

TheJimi

24,992 posts

243 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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Tiggsy said:
...cats would start jacking little old ladies...
hehe I've gone visual with that biggrin

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Friday 15th November 2019
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TheJimi said:
Tiggsy said:
...cats would start jacking little old ladies...
hehe I've gone visual with that biggrin
I may have just solved the dangerous dog act, an ageing population and cat st in gardens in one go!

T-195

2,671 posts

61 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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Yes. If your cat spends a lot of time kiĺling wildlife then I blame the owners.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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Tiggsy said:
In an ideal world the bull breeds would eat their owners, cats would start jacking little old ladies and sparrows would gang up on any pet that sts in my garden. Then people would probably adopt a more sensible approach to animal ownership.
I like this ideal world that you speak of smile

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Saturday 16th November 2019
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T-195 said:
Yes. If your cat spends a lot of time ki?ling wildlife then I blame the owners.
The simple way to control cat kills is to fit a little bell to their collar, to warn birds and the like of the threat. But really, I can't believe this is still being given head space. A cat doing what nature tells it to do is far from a dog owner, who unlike a cat knows it's wrong, encouraging the dog to kill another persons pet.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
T-195 said:
Yes. If your cat spends a lot of time ki?ling wildlife then I blame the owners.
The simple way to control cat kills is to fit a little bell to their collar, to warn birds and the like of the threat. But really, I can't believe this is still being given head space. A cat doing what nature tells it to do is far from a dog owner, who unlike a cat knows it's wrong, encouraging the dog to kill another persons pet.
A cat doing whats natural is indeed very different to THIS case......but the "its natural" argument used by cat owners more generally is rubbish - Cats live in INSANE density in the UK because they are bought as pets. There's nothing natural about it. In the wild you'd never get so many predators right on top of each other.

RB Will

9,664 posts

240 months

Sunday 17th November 2019
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Speaking of overcrowding. Currently lying in my bed trying to read while 2 of my neighbours cats are screaming and taking chunks out of each other in my back garden.
Probably arguing over which one should be stting in my raised beds

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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Tiggsy said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
T-195 said:
Yes. If your cat spends a lot of time ki?ling wildlife then I blame the owners.
The simple way to control cat kills is to fit a little bell to their collar, to warn birds and the like of the threat. But really, I can't believe this is still being given head space. A cat doing what nature tells it to do is far from a dog owner, who unlike a cat knows it's wrong, encouraging the dog to kill another persons pet.
A cat doing whats natural is indeed very different to THIS case......but the "its natural" argument used by cat owners more generally is rubbish - Cats live in INSANE density in the UK because they are bought as pets. There's nothing natural about it. In the wild you'd never get so many predators right on top of each other.
That's one angle, but compare the UK to Greece. There they live in insane density for the very reason that they AREN'T kept as pets. They breed and breed, and live outside, with free access to their prey. Ours are two Greek street cats. Now they are house cats, two cats that no longer kill wildlife.

uk66fastback

16,541 posts

271 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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18 weeks jail. Should have been 18 years.

elanfan

5,520 posts

227 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-5...


Let’s hope he’s in jail with some cat lovers. He’ll spend a lot of that time terrified that he’ll be assaulted. Good!

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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The cat owners says her life feels totally empty at the moment, I can see that, we get very attached to animals, was chatting to another dog owner who had a very similar dog to ours and he said he avoids the local parkland area as there have been so many incidences of people with larger dogs mauling smaller ones, his neighbours dog was killed in this manner.

A few incidents make it to the local FB group and generally the owners of the agressor dog dont seem bothered, a woman with two big dogs who set upon a smaller one just walked off, no concern, no apology.

It worries me as our dog is only fairly small, we had a Chihuahua that was a attacked when I was a kid and my dad managed to subdue the other dog but even though it wasnt that big it still took some doing.

Not sure what to do if that happens, to get the other dog off mine, would punch and kick as I wouldnt let him go down without fighting for him but not sure, if like the Mastiff that had a go the other day what I could do.

Is there a sure fire, non lethal to separate dogs that are fighting ? I would carry something just in case but obviously has to be legal, a spray or some kind of aural thing ?

WCZ

10,526 posts

194 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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there was a thread on here awhile back after a video surfaced of someone feeding a snake kittens for fun, so many people defended him stating that if you eat meat it's the same etc etc

a couple of years later the same person was jailed for life after filming the murder of his room mate where he cut off all of his body parts.

anyone who enjoys the torture of animals has no soul imo

uk66fastback

16,541 posts

271 months

Monday 18th November 2019
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WCZ said:
there was a thread on here awhile back after a video surfaced of someone feeding a snake kittens for fun, so many people defended him stating that if you eat meat it's the same etc etc

a couple of years later the same person was jailed for life after filming the murder of his room mate where he cut off all of his body parts.

anyone who enjoys the torture of animals has no soul imo
It's generally how psychopaths are - torturing animals when younger, complete lack of empathy etc. Chilling, to be honest.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

252 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Tiggsy said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
T-195 said:
Yes. If your cat spends a lot of time ki?ling wildlife then I blame the owners.
The simple way to control cat kills is to fit a little bell to their collar, to warn birds and the like of the threat. But really, I can't believe this is still being given head space. A cat doing what nature tells it to do is far from a dog owner, who unlike a cat knows it's wrong, encouraging the dog to kill another persons pet.
A cat doing whats natural is indeed very different to THIS case......but the "its natural" argument used by cat owners more generally is rubbish - Cats live in INSANE density in the UK because they are bought as pets. There's nothing natural about it. In the wild you'd never get so many predators right on top of each other.
That's one angle, but compare the UK to Greece. There they live in insane density for the very reason that they AREN'T kept as pets. They breed and breed, and live outside, with free access to their prey. Ours are two Greek street cats. Now they are house cats, two cats that no longer kill wildlife.
Yes - that's even worse though. There's a simple enough solution to that but people don't like killing cats and dogs. Same as we have here with dogs in shelters - grim life for them. If I was in charge I'd keep a dog in a shelter for no more than a couple of weeks before it goes to sleep. I'd also have a dog license, ban 99% of people from breeding, make breaking the dog laws a prison offence and provide them for the elderly free. No more dogs stuck in shelters. People would rather they lived in cages though frown

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Tiggsy said:
Yes - that's even worse though. There's a simple enough solution to that but people don't like killing cats and dogs. Same as we have here with dogs in shelters - grim life for them. If I was in charge I'd keep a dog in a shelter for no more than a couple of weeks before it goes to sleep. I'd also have a dog license, ban 99% of people from breeding, make breaking the dog laws a prison offence and provide them for the elderly free. No more dogs stuck in shelters. People would rather they lived in cages though frown
People certainly wouldn't "rather they lived in cages" – they'd rather they lived in shelters than be exterminated in the summary way you suggest. All shelters are not the same and most have a high success rate in rehoming – admittedly it takes longer for some dogs than others. I've rehomed a couple of wonderful dogs, which, in the Republic of Tiggsy, would have been executed out of hand. I get the impression you'd rather dogs didn't exist at all.

TheJimi

24,992 posts

243 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Tiggsy said:
If I was in charge I'd keep a dog in a shelter for no more than a couple of weeks before it goes to sleep
fking hell.

I despair. I really do.

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

12,958 posts

100 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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TheJimi said:
Tiggsy said:
If I was in charge I'd keep a dog in a shelter for no more than a couple of weeks before it goes to sleep
fking hell.

I despair. I really do.
Indeed. If that was how it worked one of our boys wouldn't be with us. In the rescue kennels for 6 months before us. Constantly taken back, for being handsome, but a pain in the arse.

CoolHands

18,635 posts

195 months

Tuesday 19th November 2019
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
Indeed. If that was how it worked one of our boys wouldn't be with us. In the rescue kennels for 6 months before us. Constantly taken back, for being handsome, but a pain in the arse.
But so what? You wouldn’t know cos they wouldn’t have been there. You would have just ended up with 2 different dogs.