Guy gets dog to kill cat? WTF is wrong with some people?

[Yertis]

Anyway guys I hold more sympathy for your views than you realise, and for most of my life would have agreed with you, and in other animal welfare scenarios probably still do. Would be happy to debate this all day but right now have walls to paint.

[Castrol for a knave]

Yertis said:

Halb said:

there's a certain kind of sick individual that wants to sick animals on other animals; badger baiting, dog-fighting, fox hunting, hare coursing, bear baiting, rat fighting. THese people lack a lot of humanity in themselves.

That’s an inaccurate generalisation - I’m sure you’ll disagree and that’s cool but IMO fox hunting and hare coursing are very different from those other vile activities, and there’s no lack of humanity in the participants I’ve met. Quite the reverse in fact.

We’ve been up hill and down dale with this debate many times onPH, but I couldn’t leave that uncommented.

Never mind fox hunting, how can hare coursing be any different to setting your dog onto a cat?

[vixen1700]

elanfan said:

Said he’d be identified, didn’t take long. I can’t wait for him to be arrested and jailed. Let’s hope it’s with a few animal lovers.

Hopefully. Sick, sad little .

[funkyrobot]

As a like for like punishment, I feel old Amos should be put in a room with a grizzly bear that has been annoyed. See how he likes it.

[anonymous-user]

Castrol for a knave said:

Yertis said:

Halb said:

there's a certain kind of sick individual that wants to sick animals on other animals; badger baiting, dog-fighting, fox hunting, hare coursing, bear baiting, rat fighting. THese people lack a lot of humanity in themselves.

That’s an inaccurate generalisation - I’m sure you’ll disagree and that’s cool but IMO fox hunting and hare coursing are very different from those other vile activities, and there’s no lack of humanity in the participants I’ve met. Quite the reverse in fact.

We’ve been up hill and down dale with this debate many times onPH, but I couldn’t leave that uncommented.

Never mind fox hunting, how can hare coursing be any different to setting your dog onto a cat?

It isn’t. It is, as fox hunting is, a vile activity pursued by the inadequate for no good reason.

[Yertis]

Castrol for a knave said:

Never mind fox hunting, how can hare coursing be any different to setting your dog onto a cat?

Google Hare Coursing rules and judge for yourself.

[anonymous-user]

Fox hunting with dogs killing the fox is illegal but it happens. The fox isn't quickly dispatched, it doesn't reduce population numbers and besides a folly makes little difference overall.

Setting a dog on a cat is no difference to that of a fox, just one is classed as a pet the other is classed as vermin.

[Castrol for a knave]

Yertis said:

Google Hare Coursing rules and judge for yourself.

I don't think the two blokes we caught in our bottom field were following the rules.

[BlackLabel]

This recent story in the press re animal cruelty is worse imo and won’t even make the national news.

https://www.cumnockchronicle.com/news/18022290.cru...

Talks of vengeance attacks, life being made hell for people etc sounds like wishful thinking to me. There are lots of scumbags in society who have abused humans/animals and they come out of prison etc and nothing happens to them. What difference is a dead cat going to make?

[Yertis]

Castrol for a knave said:

I don't think the two blokes we caught in our bottom field were following the rules.

Well, there’s part of the problem.

[RemyMartin81D]

Anyone who partakes in hare coursing is a total . It is rightly illegal in this country. I would happily pay money to watch anyone who enjoys it or even thinks it's acceptable to be chased by sight not scent by a tiger.

It's the 21st century. Humans used to watch others kill others at public executions or even earlier in the Colosseum. The world changes and it's a total barbaric, backwards 'sport'. If population control is such a big thing then use a grounds keeper and a super accurate rifle to despatch instantly.

[colonel c]

Yes, killing or watching any aminial killed for the fun of it involves the same mentality regardless of the social class.The only difference in my book is members of the better off and educated classes should know better.

[Yertis]

RemyMartin81D said:

I would happily pay money to watch anyone who enjoys it or even thinks it's acceptable to be chased by sight not scent by a tiger.

So you do approve of bloodsports, in principle...

RemyMartin81D said:

It's the 21st century. Humans used to watch others kill others at public executions or even earlier in the Colosseum. The world changes and it's a total barbaric, backwards 'sport'. If population control is such a big thing then use a grounds keeper and a super accurate rifle to despatch instantly.

I’m not sure a groundskeeper would be the man for the job, no matter how accurate a rifle you gave him.

Out of interest, what’s your take on using terriers to kill rats?

[anonymous-user]

Back to the original topic, a barbaric act and I hope he is severely punished for it, glad his name and photo are out in the public domain and not hidden.

As for other part of this thread, if I were a land owner I would not allow fox hunting, etc on my land.

[RemyMartin81D]

Yertis said:

I’m not sure a groundskeeper would be the man for the job, no matter how accurate a rifle you gave him.

Out of interest, what’s your take on using terriers to kill rats?

I don't like terriers and I'm really not fussed on dogs. I don't agree with it.

[Yertis]

Fair enough.

[Countdown]

A family friend used to go "hare coursing". He told me that the farmers see the hares as pests as they ruin the crops and encouraged him and his friends to go coursing in their fields.

To be clear, I think it's horrific. i was just wondering how true his statement was.

[Mort7]

Apparently hares are seen as a pest in some areas, and I believe they can be shot legally, but they are a lot less prolific than rabbits (around here at least) so I would imagine that they cause less damage. Magnificent animals though, and surprisingly large when you see them up close. Can't understand why anyone would want to kill one other than for food.

Funnily enough Mrs M and I were out for a walk yesterday, and one came running up the lane towards us. We stayed still, and it got quite close before it saw us (they have good peripheral vision, but their binocular vision is poor). We considered that view to be a privilege.

The police around here are very hot on hare coursing, which they treat as a priority - in part because of the damage that hare coursing causes to fields, which will be much greater than any damage that the hares might cause.

[RemyMartin81D]

Mort7 said:

Apparently hares are seen as a pest in some areas, and I believe they can be shot legally, but they are a lot less prolific than rabbits (around here at least) so I would imagine that they cause less damage. Magnificent animals though, and surprisingly large when you see them up close. Can't understand why anyone would want to kill one other than for food.

Funnily enough Mrs M and I were out for a walk yesterday, and one came running up the lane towards us. We stayed still, and it got quite close before it saw us (they have good peripheral vision, but their binocular vision is poor). We considered that view to be a privilege.

The police around here are very hot on hare coursing, which they treat as a priority - in part because of the damage that hare coursing causes to fields, which will be much greater than any damage that the hares might cause.

Irish hares, Mountain hares or regular Brown hares? Do people know the difference. The first two are borderline becoming very low in numbers in the UK to almost being endangered. Not that regular Brown hares are easy to spot in the wild so to speak they are very elusive and often if you spot them it'll be through sheer luck or an enthusiast who knows how best to view them. On the subject of hares I have alot of time really seeing as I have many ornaments and art work adorning my walls along with rabbits (which I kept as pets so I have a huge soft spot for) although they share the wall space equally with Battersea power station lol I am a bit eclectic in my tastes.

I'm glad police take it seriously it a bloody file activity. I have to say I wasn't aware that anyone bar the travelling contingent still partook in it...

[Mort7]

RemyMartin81D said:

Irish hares, Mountain hares or regular Brown hares? Do people know the difference. The first two are borderline becoming very low in numbers in the UK to almost being endangered. Not that regular Brown hares are easy to spot in the wild so to speak they are very elusive and often if you spot them it'll be through sheer luck or an enthusiast who knows how best to view them. On the subject of hares I have alot of time really seeing as I have many ornaments and art work adorning my walls along with rabbits (which I kept as pets so I have a huge soft spot for) although they share the wall space equally with Battersea power station lol I am a bit eclectic in my tastes.

I'm glad police take it seriously it a bloody file activity. I have to say I wasn't aware that anyone bar the travelling contingent still partook in it...

Sorry, should have been specific. The hares around here are brown hares. We've come to know where to find them, and I have my 'eye in', so I generally see them well before Mrs M does. We generally have binoculars with us too, which helps.

The closest we’ve ever come is about 4 feet away, but that was because a couple were too involved in a scrap to notice us. It's only when you get really close that you realise just how much bigger than rabbits they are.

Mrs M is also particularly fond of hares, and we also have ornaments, and artwork adorning our walls.