8.2 Milion living alone

[Chris Type R]

An increase of 1.4m people living alone over a 20 year period must have quite an impact on the need to build more housing.

[JuniorD]

Chris Type R said:

An increase of 1.4m people living alone over a 20 year period must have quite an impact on the need to build more housing.

And bigger servers for hosting the burgeoning online pr0n

[Chris Type R]

JuniorD said:

Chris Type R said:

An increase of 1.4m people living alone over a 20 year period must have quite an impact on the need to build more housing.

And bigger servers for hosting the burgeoning online pr0n

I think the country is better equipped to handle that growth.

Edited by Chris Type R on Monday 18th November 16:47

[Nickgnome]

I find it a little sad that some people do not, or choose not get the benefit of sharing life’s experiences, good and bad and have someone as a sounding board.

Even life long very close friends are not the same as a really deep bond with another person.

Commitment though does require a significant amount of effort.

[bloomen]

Nickgnome said:

I find it a little sad that some people do not, or choose not get the benefit of sharing life’s experiences, good and bad and have someone as a sounding board.

I've done it enough times to know I was much, much sadder when mired in it than free of it.

[Nickgnome]

bloomen said:

Nickgnome said:

I find it a little sad that some people do not, or choose not get the benefit of sharing life’s experiences, good and bad and have someone as a sounding board.

I've done it enough times to know I was much, much sadder when mired in it than free of it.

We can all make bad choices sometimes but that should not prevent learning from them.

If you spin your car on a race track do you give up and never drive again.?

[av185]

But as previously mentioned it is possible to have both.

And just because someone doesnt need to be with someone else 24/7 is in many ways no bad thing.

If the compromises one has to make by being with someone else 24/7 drag you down more than being on your own its time to consider going it alone and you will invariably be a better person for doing so too.

The number of couples I know staying in toxic relationships with the associated stress and negativity all this brings to themselves and the ones they love including children just because society still sees that as normal and they often havent got the balls to 'man up' and go it alone beggars belief.

Edited by av185 on Monday 18th November 14:27

[Gecko1978]

Nickgnome said:

We can all make bad choices sometimes but that should not prevent learning from them.

If you spin your car on a race track do you give up and never drive again.?

I might if the result was I was paralysed, today we have a situation where if you meet someone and move in together even if you don't marry you become financially co-dependant and so you make a marriage level commitment without doing more than buying a home. People then grow older and like it or not change. So they separate and this often comes at a financial cost that makes people wary to commit again. They get odler, past the point of wanting children and end up alone.

Now this is just an example of life simply happening to people its not they choose to be alone. I say this as a married person who went through the buying a home process etc and finally got married but it was not a smooth path,

Many people just don't want the pain of a relationship as its often not a smooth journey.

[Nickgnome]

Gecko1978 said:

Nickgnome said:

We can all make bad choices sometimes but that should not prevent learning from them.

If you spin your car on a race track do you give up and never drive again.?

I might if the result was I was paralysed, today we have a situation where if you meet someone and move in together even if you don't marry you become financially co-dependant and so you make a marriage level commitment without doing more than buying a home. People then grow older and like it or not change. So they separate and this often comes at a financial cost that makes people wary to commit again. They get odler, past the point of wanting children and end up alone.

Now this is just an example of life simply happening to people its not they choose to be alone. I say this as a married person who went through the buying a home process etc and finally got married but it was not a smooth path,

Many people just don't want the pain of a relationship as its often not a smooth journey.

Life would be a little tedious without challenges. Career, relationships, children. Surely that one of the big rewards of life.

Life doesn’t just happen. It is what we make it.

[Gecko1978]

Nickgnome said:

Life would be a little tedious without challenges. Career, relationships, children. Surely that one of the big rewards of life.

Life doesn’t just happen. It is what we make it.

with respect Nick I would say to the vast majority of people life does "just happen" - if you never move geography, never do more than your parents or peers then life just happens. While 50 years ago you went to work where your dad did till retirement. While jobs like that (heavy industry etc) have gone we do see people still following mum an dad into lover paid roles. lots of people never leave their home town (even if they go away to university). An so they don't adapt and take all that life offers because they are happy with what they have / fear loosing it / don't see another option etc.

So with that sort of risk aversion in mind is it a wonder people get married in 20s have kids divorce never remarry. Many people do not want a challenge, I have worked with people who openly admit their goal is to do as little as possible.

What you see as interesting some might seem as overwhelming

[Pan Pan Pan]

gregs656 said:

hyphen said:

Apologies, Pan made it too complicated for you.

He means that as a hetro male, you naturally get an erection and want to stick it between a females legs.

Clearer?

That isn’t what he means, or at least, not what he said.

Prime Biological Directive. Jesus wept.

Don't worry, when you grow up the penny will drop, and you will finally understand,
I sincerely hope that for you, the day of your enlightenment doesn't come too late Until then it looks like you have swallowed the programming hook, line, and sinker. If you are happy with that, then fine, everyone has the right to live life the way they see fit, and want to.

[Pan Pan Pan]

Nickgnome said:

bloomen said:

Nickgnome said:

I find it a little sad that some people do not, or choose not get the benefit of sharing life’s experiences, good and bad and have someone as a sounding board.

I've done it enough times to know I was much, much sadder when mired in it than free of it.

We can all make bad choices sometimes but that should not prevent learning from them.

If you spin your car on a race track do you give up and never drive again.?

What you might think of, and refer to as bad, might be another persons idea of good, or even wonderful. Do you not understand the possibility of this? The real trick is to try to learn from other peoples mistakes whenever possible, rather than repeating one`s own..

[gregs656]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Don't worry, when you grow up the penny will drop, and you will finally understand,
I sincerely hope that for you, the day of your enlightenment doesn't come too late Until then it looks like you have swallowed the programming hook, line, and sinker. If you are happy with that, then fine, everyone has the right to live life the way they see fit, and want to.

What are you talking about. You have no idea what my life is like.

I don't spend it making up nonsense pseudo intellectual bks like a 'PBD', if that's what you mean.

Edited by gregs656 on Monday 18th November 15:54

[C0ffin D0dger]

I live with my wife and two kids, happy with that, but I did live alone until I was around 34.

Never had a problem with it and enjoyed my own company. I could always coerce someone into going out for a beer if I felt the need. Realise now how easy it made things. Nobody to consider other than myself, pretty much do what I wanted when I wanted with the exception of going to work as the money was useful. I don't know if I look back to those times with a rose tinted view, but kind of think that if the whole relationship thing hadn't really panned out for me I'd still be happy with it now.

[otolith]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Don't worry, when you grow up the penny will drop, and you will finally understand

Have you ever considered that maybe not everyone is like you?

[Pan Pan Pan]

Nickgnome said:

Gecko1978 said:

Nickgnome said:

We can all make bad choices sometimes but that should not prevent learning from them.

If you spin your car on a race track do you give up and never drive again.?

I might if the result was I was paralysed, today we have a situation where if you meet someone and move in together even if you don't marry you become financially co-dependant and so you make a marriage level commitment without doing more than buying a home. People then grow older and like it or not change. So they separate and this often comes at a financial cost that makes people wary to commit again. They get odler, past the point of wanting children and end up alone.

Now this is just an example of life simply happening to people its not they choose to be alone. I say this as a married person who went through the buying a home process etc and finally got married but it was not a smooth path,

Many people just don't want the pain of a relationship as its often not a smooth journey.

Life would be a little tedious without challenges. Career, relationships, children. Surely that one of the big rewards of life.

Life doesn’t just happen. It is what we make it.

There are far, far more challenges in life that a person can take on, than just having a relationship and children, (Even congenital idiots in a care home, can, and do, do that)
It could quite easily be, that having a relationship and children, is all that some people want out of being alive, and that is absolutely fine for `them'.
The people I feel sorry for, are those who have bought the program that the prime biological directive sells them, hook, line and sinker, but do not realize they have done so, to the extent, that they then try to denigrate those who don't have the same view on the subject as themselves. as if only they are right, and those who do not buy the `program' (as they have done) are somehow wrong.
The rising number of divorces, reducing number of marriages, and increasing number of those who `choose' to live alone, regardless of, sociability, gender, wealth and position in life. would seem to bear witness to this..

Edited by Pan Pan Pan on Monday 18th November 16:31

[Pan Pan Pan]

gregs656 said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

Don't worry, when you grow up the penny will drop, and you will finally understand,
I sincerely hope that for you, the day of your enlightenment doesn't come too late Until then it looks like you have swallowed the programming hook, line, and sinker. If you are happy with that, then fine, everyone has the right to live life the way they see fit, and want to.

What are you talking about. You have no idea what my life is like.

I don't spend it making up nonsense pseudo intellectual bks like a 'PBD', if that's what you mean.

Edited by gregs656 on Monday 18th November 15:54

Nor do I want to know what your life is like, but since you appear to have swallowed the prime biological directive hook. line and sinker, that is fine, you just stick with what you know, understand, and are happy with. I will just do the same.

[Pan Pan Pan]

otolith said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

Don't worry, when you grow up the penny will drop, and you will finally understand

Have you ever considered that maybe not everyone is like you?

I absolutely have, but it appears that some like Gregg656 has not, and finds anyone with a different view to his, to be somewhat challenging. It maybe that he finds that views other than his are quite scary?

[gregs656]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Nor do I want to know what your life is like, but since you appear to have swallowed the prime biological directive hook. line and sinker, that is fine, you just stick with what you know, understand, and are happy with. I will just do the same.

Ok the PBD is something you have made up. It doesn't exist.

Secondly, you have no idea what my life is like, so you have no idea how it fits into your made up framework.

I am sure there is a name for people who invent frameworks to validate their choices. Needy? Unsure?

Pan Pan Pan said:

I absolutely have, but it appears that some like Gregg656 has not, and finds anyone with a different view to his, to be somewhat challenging. It maybe that he finds that views other than his are quite scary?

I have no 'view' on the subject. At the moment I live alone, for most of my life I have not.

I have no problem with people who are happy living alone, or those who are not.

I do have a problem with people who make things up to sound intellectual, particularly when it comes to biology and what people 'should' do. I have no time for it and it should be called out in all instances.

Edited by gregs656 on Monday 18th November 16:33

[Pan Pan Pan]

gregs656 said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

Nor do I want to know what your life is like, but since you appear to have swallowed the prime biological directive hook. line and sinker, that is fine, you just stick with what you know, understand, and are happy with. I will just do the same.

Ok the PBD is something you have made up. It doesn't exist.

Secondly, you have no idea what my life is like, so you have no idea how it fits into your made up framework.

I am sure there is a name for people who invent frameworks to validate their choices. Needy?
Unsure?

So procreation is something I have made up is it?
I don't even want your life to fit into any sort of framework I could dream up. It just seems you have bought into the PBD hook line and sinker, and believe that everyone should do the same as you, in an attempt to justify your life choices. Sorry, but that doesn't work for everyone else so you will just have to learn to live with the fact that not everyone wants to think and live the same way you do.