Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)

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IforB

9,840 posts

230 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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shed driver said:
What's the chances of Boris losing his seat? 5000 majority and a keen, local Labour Party candidate.

What happens if he does lose? Other than widespread flooding as people piss themselves laughing?

SD.
I would be happier than you could imagine if that happened, unfortunately I suspect he'll be safe.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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There may possibly be something of an inversion in this GE, with Tories gaining ground in the north and losing ground in the south.

Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."

Twenty first century: more of the same.

Gargamel

15,028 posts

262 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
There may possibly be something of an inversion in this GE, with Tories gaining ground in the north and losing ground in the south.

Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."

Twenty first century: more of the same.
I suppose BV in the end the people without wealth must both hope and believe their best route to future wealth lies with the Conservatives.

Sure, some folks a getting a small slice of the pie, Labour believe in cutting up the pie differently. Conservatives believe in making the pie bigger.

greygoose

8,285 posts

196 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Gargamel said:
Breadvan72 said:
There may possibly be something of an inversion in this GE, with Tories gaining ground in the north and losing ground in the south.

Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."

Twenty first century: more of the same.
I suppose BV in the end the people without wealth must both hope and believe their best route to future wealth lies with the Conservatives.

Sure, some folks a getting a small slice of the pie, Labour believe in cutting up the pie differently. Conservatives believe in making the pie bigger.
I am not sure Boris has any beliefs about the pie, whether it is making it bigger or dividing it differently, he just wants his name on it.

768

13,757 posts

97 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."
It certainly does for the Labour party, with their million pound homes, second homes and private education galore while promising to use the 5%, the billionaires to take private sector jobs into the public sector for people in new council houses.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
There may possibly be something of an inversion in this GE, with Tories gaining ground in the north and losing ground in the south.

Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."

Twenty first century: more of the same.
There’s not a party that the same doesn’t apply to.

TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
There may possibly be something of an inversion in this GE, with Tories gaining ground in the north and losing ground in the south.

Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."

Twenty first century: more of the same.
Says the wealthy man who retired to a sunny island in the Carribean, A man who made his wealth representing those same people of power he now despises



Excuse me while I laugh at you

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
There may possibly be something of an inversion in this GE, with Tories gaining ground in the north and losing ground in the south.

Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."

Twenty first century: more of the same.
As others have said, BV, the politicians across the floor are from the same stock. We've got a stoker's grandson and a bus-driver's son amongst the Tory MPs and we've got a third generation establishment member as a Labour MP, as a few examples. The boundaries of 'wealth' are blurred between the parties.
After these three years BV, have you realised that, as well as financial wealth, Self-determination was also a motivating factor, something that's not based on money?


anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Well, PH denies that Brexit is all about Xenophobia. Oooops, pity that Johnson does not agree with you! He is now out in the open as the Populist thug that he always has been. Go for the basest instincts of the base. It will probably work.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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I am neither wealthy nor retired. I do not know why RNN thinks that I am either.

The always literal minded rightists are failing to see what Bevan was talking about. He was talking about the Tory appeal to people who are routinely harmed by Tory policies. Voting against self interest is a big factor in all elections.

As for self determination, the UK has always had and still has that. Brexiter myths on that subject remain mythical no matter how often they are repeated.

don'tbesilly

13,940 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
Well, PH denies that Brexit is all about Xenophobia. Oooops, pity that Johnson does not agree with you! He is now out in the open as the Populist thug that he always has been. Go for the basest instincts of the base. It will probably work.
Poor BV, you need some help Fella.
You are writing nonsense, worryingly for you it's becoming the norm and not the exception.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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greygoose said:
Gargamel said:
Breadvan72 said:
There may possibly be something of an inversion in this GE, with Tories gaining ground in the north and losing ground in the south.

Aneurin Bevan's line holds truer now than ever: "How can wealth persuade poverty to use its political freedom to keep wealth in power? Here lies the whole art of Conservative politics in the twentieth century."

Twenty first century: more of the same.
I suppose BV in the end the people without wealth must both hope and believe their best route to future wealth lies with the Conservatives.

Sure, some folks a getting a small slice of the pie, Labour believe in cutting up the pie differently. Conservatives believe in making the pie bigger.
I am not sure Boris has any beliefs about the pie, whether it is making it bigger or dividing it differently, he just wants his name on it.
This. As for pie shares, anyone who still believes in trickledown economics as a working reality is living on Fantasy Island.

Brave Fart

5,777 posts

112 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
Well, PH denies that Brexit is all about Xenophobia. Oooops, pity that Johnson does not agree with you! He is now out in the open as the Populist thug that he always has been. Go for the basest instincts of the base. It will probably work.
Ah, Breadvan72, your posts usually stand out above the shrill rantings of Momentum crazies. I fear you have become one of them. Populist thug? I mean, really? Thug? Perhaps you should stay away from the booze for a while.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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don'tbesilly said:
Breadvan72 said:
Well, PH denies that Brexit is all about Xenophobia. Oooops, pity that Johnson does not agree with you! He is now out in the open as the Populist thug that he always has been. Go for the basest instincts of the base. It will probably work.
Poor BV, you need some help Fella.
You are writing nonsense, worryingly for you it's becoming the norm and not the exception.
Have you heard Johnson’s latest statement on migrants? He has opted for Plan Gutter.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Brave Fart said:
Ah, Breadvan72, your posts usually stand out above the shrill rantings of Momentum crazies. I fear you have become one of them. Populist thug? I mean, really? Thug? Perhaps you should stay away from the booze for a while.
Pathetic. No arguments, just weak insults. Listen to the latest Johnson blurb on migrants and tell me that is not thug politics.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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You can always tell when the rightists here are feeling sheepish: they start with their feeble ad hom squeaking and shrieking. Arguments? Thought not.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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TheRealNoNeedy said:
Says the wealthy man who retired to a sunny island in the Carribean, A man who made his wealth representing those same people of power he now despises



Excuse me while I laugh at you
Erm you might have got that wrong .......

TheRealNoNeedy

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Brooking10 said:
TheRealNoNeedy said:
Says the wealthy man who retired to a sunny island in the Carribean, A man who made his wealth representing those same people of power he now despises



Excuse me while I laugh at you
Erm you might have got that wrong .......
In part maybe

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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TheRealNoNeedy said:
Brooking10 said:
TheRealNoNeedy said:
Says the wealthy man who retired to a sunny island in the Carribean, A man who made his wealth representing those same people of power he now despises



Excuse me while I laugh at you
Erm you might have got that wrong .......
In part maybe
I’m not sure commercial litigation and associated matters including freezing orders, extradition of oligarchs and the like involves many MPs as a matter of course.

There’s a very clear reason why many people in that line of work practice in Cayman and the BVI.

BV’s underlying message is right - Corbyn is a nutter which means, thankfully for Boris, this election will be fought on very lowbrow terms namely “we’re not him” and appealing to base instincts around ingrained prejudices.

don'tbesilly

13,940 posts

164 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Breadvan72 said:
don'tbesilly said:
Breadvan72 said:
Well, PH denies that Brexit is all about Xenophobia. Oooops, pity that Johnson does not agree with you! He is now out in the open as the Populist thug that he always has been. Go for the basest instincts of the base. It will probably work.
Poor BV, you need some help Fella.
You are writing nonsense, worryingly for you it's becoming the norm and not the exception.
Have you heard Johnson’s latest statement on migrants? He has opted for Plan Gutter.
Similar/same proposal to that used in Australia from my understanding, far from plan gutter.

Perhaps you could think about dragging yourself out of it, you're becoming a laughing stock.





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