Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)
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hstewie said:
hstewie said:ChevyChase77 said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: I don't have a clue what the poor child's situation was which is exactly why I'm not making assumptions or calling the parents decision making into question.
Does seem highly suspicious that this comes out just before an election.Can we have another photo of Corbyn sitting on a train floor too?
@jeremycorbyn
isn’t telling you is that under labour this Leeds hospital with PFI borrowed £237m in 2002 paid back over 30 yrs,the amount they are paying back is £1.016bn!The annual interest is crippling them. Labours legacy"
https://twitter.com/DawnWestgate/status/1204105274...
Very surprised that this "sick kid dumped on floor" story is still running this morning, and conservative central office haven't managed to expose it as the blatant fake news it is.
I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
kev1974 said:
Very surprised that this "sick kid dumped on floor" story is still running this morning, and conservative central office haven't managed to expose it as the blatant fake news it is.
I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
Perhaps it isn’t fake news?I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
Garvin said:
When the MSM are willing to promulgate fake news due to their lazy, unprofessional approach of trying to be ‘first’ and concentrate on the sensational in the chase for viewers/readers rather than real news then it is hardly surprising that they are taken for the charlies they are in this way. It doesn’t make it right but it is not surprising.
Hopefully a wake up call for Laura - not a patch on Nick Robinson - Kuenssberg.
They have been clever though (not the news, the pushers of the lies). Perhaps the ire needs to go at the political parties not people who are duped, there seems to be two stories here that have been monumentally spun by people invested in and by the torys. slight brush with a hand and the lad on the floor.Hopefully a wake up call for Laura - not a patch on Nick Robinson - Kuenssberg.
https://twitter.com/marcowenjones/status/120418308...
Well worth a read. How the lad on the floor was bigged up.
kev1974 said:
Very surprised that this "sick kid dumped on floor" story is still running this morning, and conservative central office haven't managed to expose it as the blatant fake news it is.
I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
Not sure.I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/lgi-b...
I am in the mood these days to see a few proofs.
kev1974 said:
Very surprised that this "sick kid dumped on floor" story is still running this morning, and conservative central office haven't managed to expose it as the blatant fake news it is.
I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
Still being pushed this morning on PH and by the usual suspects.I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
kev1974 said:
Very surprised that this "sick kid dumped on floor" story is still running this morning, and conservative central office haven't managed to expose it as the blatant fake news it is.
I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
I thought the statement from the hospital confirming that there wasn't a bed available (only chairs) was pretty clear - https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/people...I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
don'tbesilly said:
Still being pushed this morning on PH and by the usual suspects.
It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
Why do you think the hospital apologised?It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
LGI bosses apologise after four-year-old boy with pneumonia forced to sleep on floor
"We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available, and no bed".
And none of that excuses Johnson for his reaction.
Crack on with defending it though.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:don'tbesilly said:
Still being pushed this morning on PH and by the usual suspects.
It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
Why do you think the hospital apologised?It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
LGI bosses apologise after four-year-old boy with pneumonia forced to sleep on floor
"We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available, and no bed".
And none of that excuses Johnson for his reaction.
Crack on with defending it though.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:don'tbesilly said:
Still being pushed this morning on PH and by the usual suspects.
It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
Why do you think the hospital apologised?It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
LGI bosses apologise after four-year-old boy with pneumonia forced to sleep on floor
"We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available, and no bed".
And none of that excuses Johnson for his reaction.
That statement - it's odd that the hospital made no mention of the child previously being given a bed while being given oxygen, or the BBC article from yesterday was fake news.
turbobloke said:
It certainly doesn't.
That statement - it's odd that the hospital made no mention of the child previously being given a bed while being given oxygen, or the BBC article from yesterday was fake news.
Looking at the way this has been spun, I expect a lot of wrong info, not deliberate though, but caught out. I hope they buck their methods.That statement - it's odd that the hospital made no mention of the child previously being given a bed while being given oxygen, or the BBC article from yesterday was fake news.
They way this has been pushed by bots on the usual suspects by official peeps should be the story.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:don'tbesilly said:
Still being pushed this morning on PH and by the usual suspects.
It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
Why do you think the hospital apologised?It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
LGI bosses apologise after four-year-old boy with pneumonia forced to sleep on floor
"We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available, and no bed".
And none of that excuses Johnson for his reaction.
Crack on with defending it though.
Everyone is obsessed with apologies. Look how many interviewers went after an apology from Corbyn. Does anyone really think that he is an anti-Semite? Probably not, but if you get him to apologise then he’s almost admitting it. The longer it went on the worse it got.
Better to get the apology in quick, then if it does turn out to be a made up story you get the moral high ground.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:don'tbesilly said:
Still being pushed this morning on PH and by the usual suspects.
It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
Why do you think the hospital apologised?It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
LGI bosses apologise after four-year-old boy with pneumonia forced to sleep on floor
"We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available, and no bed".
And none of that excuses Johnson for his reaction.
Crack on with defending it though.
Even the BBC commented on the fact that the mother (who ironically was responsible for the photo!) had asked that the photo not be used for politicising the event, even though the plea was made many hours after the photo had been used.
Crack on complaining about it though, I can understand why you feel the need to do so.
turbobloke said:
It certainly doesn't.
That statement - it's odd that the hospital made no mention of the child previously being given a bed while being given oxygen, or the BBC article from yesterday was fake news.
Possible, or with a fast moving story and people sometimes get the facts wrong like they did the "assault" on Hancock's assistant.That statement - it's odd that the hospital made no mention of the child previously being given a bed while being given oxygen, or the BBC article from yesterday was fake news.
I've no doubt Labour will be spinning this one like a top to try and gain from it and I'm not defending it.
There are two issue here though, the poor child, and I think the hospitals statement hopefully clears that one up, and Johnson's reaction to a story.
Whatever the Labour spin machine might be up to has no bearing on the display we saw yesterday from our Prime Minister.
Zirconia said:
kev1974 said:
Very surprised that this "sick kid dumped on floor" story is still running this morning, and conservative central office haven't managed to expose it as the blatant fake news it is.
I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
Not sure.I suppose part of the problem is that it actually suits the hospital management to let the public think the photo was real and not staged by the parents because they think it will get them more money to let it keep rolling. Hence them not really making a proper truthful statement about it either.
https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/lgi-b...
I am in the mood these days to see a few proofs.
don'tbesilly said:
bhstewie said:
hstewie said:don'tbesilly said:
Still being pushed this morning on PH and by the usual suspects.
It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
Why do you think the hospital apologised?It's all about how bad Johnson reacts or doesn't to a photo on a phone.
The fact the photo on the phone came about as a stage managed event and the whole story is a faked one to support Corbyn and Labour is irrelevant, that shocking notion gives you an idea of the thinking behind the people still perpetuating the lie
LGI bosses apologise after four-year-old boy with pneumonia forced to sleep on floor
"We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available, and no bed".
And none of that excuses Johnson for his reaction.
Crack on with defending it though.
Even the BBC commented on the fact that the mother (who ironically was responsible for the photo!) had asked that the photo not be used for politicising the event, even though the plea was made many hours after the photo had been used.
Crack on complaining about it though, I can understand why you feel the need to do so.
It's a shame that the child and mother have been used for political purposes against their wishes, but it's done now and Johnson has shown himself inept at dealing with a spontaneous incident.
Is it a skill a pm should have, you know, this thinking quickly without a prepared retort? I'd say yes, but I am not, at least on PH, in a majority.
Johnson cracked.
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