Boris Johnson- Prime Minister (Vol. 3)
Discussion
Jordan210 said:
I don’t get this constant labour voters banging on about tactical voting. If your a green/lib dem who doesn’t like labour why would you help them out.
You might think the conservatives would be worse in a majority Government. You might think the geen/libdems can’t win in your constituency but labour could. It’s usually about stopping brexit or reducing the conservatives majority. El stovey said:
“There has since been an explosion in demand (obesity and related conditions such as diabetes, an ageing population and so on). ”
Since the conservatives took over?
Yes. For example, an increase of 22% in A&E attendances between 2008 and 2018.Since the conservatives took over?
https://digital.nhs.uk/news-and-events/latest-news...
kuro68k said:
Anecdotes are very interesting but this is the reality of what has happened:
Labour fixed it, the Tories undid it.
Average nurse salary in the UK is £24,500 and the bursary for training has been removed so they have a small mountain of debt too. It's no wonder there are tens of thousands of vacancies.
It's widely acknowledged that doctors and nurses need to be trained and aren't just waiting at the job centre for the next vacancy to appear.Labour fixed it, the Tories undid it.
Average nurse salary in the UK is £24,500 and the bursary for training has been removed so they have a small mountain of debt too. It's no wonder there are tens of thousands of vacancies.
Hypothetical: So, knowing that you need to plan for it, and knowing that there were 21 million A+E visitors last year, How many A+E visits should you plan for in the next 5 years?
kuro68k said:
Labour fixed it, the Tories undid it.
Labour "fixed it" by building a load of hospitals paid for with PFI. Some of those trusts have since gone bust as they can't afford the repayments and the actual hospitals have cost many times their actual costs in interest.Still it looked good for a small amount of time and made Labour look good. It's the same as their promises now - they have very little detail on how they will pay for it. I'd rather then country took a long term view and lived within it's means.
Jordan210 said:
Alpinestars said:
Because they like the conservatives even less? I
So vote for the party you agree with. Not who others tell youYou see that the greens are expected to get 100 votes in your constituency labour 15,000 conservatives 16,000
Which is the best option to get the least worst outcome for you?
NorthDave said:
Labour "fixed it" by building a load of hospitals paid for with PFI. Some of those trusts have since gone bust as they can't afford the repayments and the actual hospitals have cost many times their actual costs in interest.
Still it looked good for a small amount of time and made Labour look good. It's the same as their promises now - they have very little detail on how they will pay for it. I'd rather then country took a long term view and lived within it's means.
Well apparently Boris has found a magic money tree to pay for all his promises...Still it looked good for a small amount of time and made Labour look good. It's the same as their promises now - they have very little detail on how they will pay for it. I'd rather then country took a long term view and lived within it's means.
AW111 said:
NorthDave said:
Labour "fixed it" by building a load of hospitals paid for with PFI. Some of those trusts have since gone bust as they can't afford the repayments and the actual hospitals have cost many times their actual costs in interest.
Still it looked good for a small amount of time and made Labour look good. It's the same as their promises now - they have very little detail on how they will pay for it. I'd rather then country took a long term view and lived within it's means.
Well apparently Boris has found a magic money tree to pay for all his promises...Still it looked good for a small amount of time and made Labour look good. It's the same as their promises now - they have very little detail on how they will pay for it. I'd rather then country took a long term view and lived within it's means.
mikal83 said:
robemcdonald said:
janesmith1950 said:
My wife was due to give birth at the same hospital as these events, however on the night she went into labour it was full and we were sent to another one.
Our first thought wasn't to contact the national press about how my wife and her exceptionally high blood pressure were hatefully disadvantaged by the evil government not running the NHS properly.
But then we're normal people.
Obviously you are mentioning it on a world wide media platform though.Our first thought wasn't to contact the national press about how my wife and her exceptionally high blood pressure were hatefully disadvantaged by the evil government not running the NHS properly.
But then we're normal people.
pingu393 said:
AW111 said:
NorthDave said:
Labour "fixed it" by building a load of hospitals paid for with PFI. Some of those trusts have since gone bust as they can't afford the repayments and the actual hospitals have cost many times their actual costs in interest.
Still it looked good for a small amount of time and made Labour look good. It's the same as their promises now - they have very little detail on how they will pay for it. I'd rather then country took a long term view and lived within it's means.
Well apparently Boris has found a magic money tree to pay for all his promises...Still it looked good for a small amount of time and made Labour look good. It's the same as their promises now - they have very little detail on how they will pay for it. I'd rather then country took a long term view and lived within it's means.
Jordan210 said:
Alpinestars said:
Because they like the conservatives even less? I
So vote for the party you agree with. Not who others tell youLet’s say, your party has no chance - for whatever reason. The reds and blues are the ones in contention. You dislike blues more than reds. Etc etc.
robemcdonald said:
pingu393 said:
Time to name and shame? Who do you think thinks the picture is fake?
That’s easy. All the posters claiming it’s a fake.Cold said:
The picture isn't a fake. It's definitely a child on top of some coats. However, the story behind why the child is on top of some coats has been embellished by some to the point of fakery.
Actually this is fake news. When the photo came out and Boris tried to ignore it the Tories went into overdrive on the fake news, using sock puppet accounts to post copy/paste text claiming to have a friend who is a nurse who said it wasn't true. The hospital itself confirmed that it was true.Although it was quickly debunked it has unfortunately worked on people like you who are now confused about what is true and what is fake news.
kuro68k said:
Actually this is fake news. When the photo came out and Boris tried to ignore it the Tories went into overdrive on the fake news, using sock puppet accounts to post copy/paste text claiming to have a friend who is a nurse who said it wasn't true. The hospital itself confirmed that it was true.
Although it was quickly debunked it has unfortunately worked on people like you who are now confused about what is true and what is fake news.
Nope. You have jumped from "having to wait in a seating area" to "being forced to sleep on some coats".Although it was quickly debunked it has unfortunately worked on people like you who are now confused about what is true and what is fake news.
Like I said, the story has been embellished and has worked on people like you.
Cold said:
kuro68k said:
Actually this is fake news. When the photo came out and Boris tried to ignore it the Tories went into overdrive on the fake news, using sock puppet accounts to post copy/paste text claiming to have a friend who is a nurse who said it wasn't true. The hospital itself confirmed that it was true.
Although it was quickly debunked it has unfortunately worked on people like you who are now confused about what is true and what is fake news.
Nope. You have jumped from "having to wait in a seating area" to "being forced to sleep on some coats".Although it was quickly debunked it has unfortunately worked on people like you who are now confused about what is true and what is fake news.
Like I said, the story has been embellished and has worked on people like you.
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